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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 19, 2024 16:59:08 GMT
Very quietly the incoming Labour government has 'regularised' the status of the 90,000 illegals who arrived after January 2022 and whose asylum claims were deemed to be inadmissible by the previous government under various legislation.
The Home Office, under pressure from lefty lawyers in cahoots with the activist judiciary, has caved in and will allow all 90,000, who were at risk of being sent to Rwanda, to make asylum claims in the normal system.
"Ben Nelson, a lawyer at Duncan Lewis solicitors representing an Eritrean asylum seeker, said: “Today’s concession is not only welcome news to our clients but also to the wider cohort of vulnerable asylum seekers who have been held in limbo for over two years with the threat of removal to Rwanda perpetually hanging over their heads.
“The decision from the new home secretary will allow our clients to move on with their lives.”
I think we all know what happens next.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 19, 2024 20:48:12 GMT
"I think we all know what happens next." Or perhaps we don't. So let's take a look.  Based on recent trends between two-thirds and three-quarters will be successful on initial application. This is around two or three times the success rate within the EU. On that basis, around 60,000 of the illegal paddlers will be granted refugee status right off the bat.
And then what?
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 20, 2024 12:31:23 GMT
What happens then are (a) disappearances and (b) appeals. We know that of the 90-odd thousand claims that were dealt with under Rishi's 'Legacy Backlog Reduction' exercise around two thirds were accepted, and a third either rejected, withdrawn or abandoned. We also know that in the first three months of 2024 over 10,000 appeals were lodged. As with initial decisions, the asylum appeals process is extraordinarily generous by European standards, with slightly over half being allowed in the current regime:
So, thus far we have around 60,000 acceptances from our 90,000 illegals plus at least another 5,000 successful appeals leaving 25,000 with whereabouts unknown.
What is likely to be happening with them?
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Post by sheepy on Jul 22, 2024 7:58:24 GMT
Well, I could say I told you so, what will happen to them like most of the rest of them they will end in some ghetto somewhere or another and join the rest of the underclass. The lawyers will make another fortune from government money, under the pretense they have never had it so good, the money will make them feel all warm and fuzzy, while the charities will take over the next stage which will make them all warm and fuzzy while the donations keep coming. A cynical view perhaps but at least it is an honest one, while everyone else looks on and just shakes their head at the insanity of it all.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 22, 2024 8:35:43 GMT
One thing we do know for sure - almost none of them will ever be sent away somewhere else, least of all wherever it is came from originally. The small upward blip in voluntary returns in 2023 was almost all Albanians going home. But generally the numbers of failed asylum seekers going away is very small, a few hundred a year. 99%+ of all asylum seekers, failed or successfull are here for good.
The lawyer and charity problem is actually quite simple to resolve - the one by abolishing legal aid for foreigners and the other by eliminating Gift Aid for charities whose principal beneficiaries are 'asylum seekers'.
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Post by dappy on Jul 22, 2024 16:24:00 GMT
All this is sadly a consequence of the previous Government giving up on serious governing and instead focussing on garnering tabloid headlines. The Rwanda scheme was always a fabulously expensive gimmick - hundreds of millions of pounds wasted. While they were pretending this scheme was credible, no work was done on pursuing agreements to return failed asylum seekers, from learning from other countries what there acceptance criteria were (and hence perpetuating on abnormally high acceptance threshold) and on doing absolutely nothing to process people who arrived in the last two years who by not being processed cannot be removed if they are not eligible or passed and joined the workforce if they are all at very large accommodation cost while nothing productive was happening. They were a shameful bunch who needed to be kicked out of office.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 22, 2024 16:49:17 GMT
All this is sadly a consequence of the previous Government giving up on serious governing and instead focussing on garnering tabloid headlines. The Rwanda scheme was always a fabulously expensive gimmick - hundreds of millions of pounds wasted. While they were pretending this scheme was credible, no work was done on pursuing agreements to return failed asylum seekers, from learning from other countries what there acceptance criteria were (and hence perpetuating on abnormally high acceptance threshold) and on doing absolutely nothing to process people who arrived in the last two years who by not being processed cannot be removed if they are not eligible or passed and joined the workforce if they are all at very large accommodation cost while nothing productive was happening. They were a shameful bunch who needed to be kicked out of office. No, it's a consequence of the EU's porous borders, our ridiculous continued membership of the ECHR and an army of money-grubbing lefty lawyers that our previous, useless government failed to get to grips with. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 22, 2024 17:29:59 GMT
Per dappy:
'...doing absolutely nothing to process people who arrived in the last two years who by not being processed cannot be removed'
This is not true. Parliament approved the Illegal Migration Act which removes any obligation to process asylum claims by illegal migrants who arrived from January 2022.
They can be removed whenever and wherever convenient, as long as the Act remains in force.
Labour is planning to sabotage the Act though through secondary legislation which is not subject to parliamentary debate and approval.
The net result is almost 100% of the 90,000-odd 'inadmissibles' will be given de jure or de facto permission to remain the UK permanently. Along with however many more illegal entrants are permitted to join the asylum system during Labour's term in office.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 22, 2024 18:00:55 GMT
Well of course, that was a foregone conclusion when Labour were "Elected".
As an aside, I wonder if Labour will have more than one term once the sheeple realise how far the wrecking ball has swung.
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Post by see2 on Jul 22, 2024 18:14:59 GMT
All this is sadly a consequence of the previous Government giving up on serious governing and instead focussing on garnering tabloid headlines. The Rwanda scheme was always a fabulously expensive gimmick - hundreds of millions of pounds wasted. While they were pretending this scheme was credible, no work was done on pursuing agreements to return failed asylum seekers, from learning from other countries what there acceptance criteria were (and hence perpetuating on abnormally high acceptance threshold) and on doing absolutely nothing to process people who arrived in the last two years who by not being processed cannot be removed if they are not eligible or passed and joined the workforce if they are all at very large accommodation cost while nothing productive was happening. They were a shameful bunch who needed to be kicked out of office. No, it's a consequence of the EU's porous borders, our ridiculous continued membership of the ECHR and an army of money-grubbing lefty lawyers that our previous, useless government failed to get to grips with. Asylum seekers / economic migrants / illegal migrants, don't recognise borders. Nor, in this case, does the ECHR. |
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Post by dappy on Jul 22, 2024 18:16:37 GMT
Per dappy: '...doing absolutely nothing to process people who arrived in the last two years who by not being processed cannot be removed' This is not true. Parliament approved the Illegal Migration Act which removes any obligation to process asylum claims by illegal migrants who arrived from January 2022. They can be removed whenever and wherever convenient, as long as the Act remains in force. Labour is planning to sabotage the Act though through secondary legislation which is not subject to parliamentary debate and approval. The net result is almost 100% of the 90,000-odd 'inadmissibles' will be given de jure or de facto permission to remain the UK permanently. Along with however many more illegal entrants are permitted to join the asylum system during Labour's term in office. I’d forgotten the fine details of that PR stunt. I believe that Act came into force in July 2023. How many people were returned under the Act in the eleven months between then and the election? |
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Post by see2 on Jul 22, 2024 18:20:51 GMT
Well of course, that was a foregone conclusion when Labour were "Elected". As an aside, I wonder if Labour will have more than one term once the sheeple realise how far the wrecking ball has swung. Are you suggesting that Labour 'sheeple' are more easily led than the decades and previous years of Tory sheeple that kept on sucking the teat of Tory propaganda? |
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Post by sheepy on Jul 22, 2024 18:38:38 GMT
One thing we do know for sure - almost none of them will ever be sent away somewhere else, least of all wherever it is came from originally. The small upward blip in voluntary returns in 2023 was almost all Albanians going home. But generally the numbers of failed asylum seekers going away is very small, a few hundred a year. 99%+ of all asylum seekers, failed or successfull are here for good.
The lawyer and charity problem is actually quite simple to resolve - the one by abolishing legal aid for foreigners and the other by eliminating Gift Aid for charities whose principal beneficiaries are 'asylum seekers'.
Like that will happen, they have put us on the road to ruin for decades, no going back for them, they will brazen it out to the bitter end. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 23, 2024 0:26:52 GMT
Well of course, that was a foregone conclusion when Labour were "Elected". As an aside, I wonder if Labour will have more than one term once the sheeple realise how far the wrecking ball has swung. I think what you'll find is probably continued apathy in this regard. Britain has now become a lost cause. The UK's own brain-drain will only rise further still. While the UK imports high numbers of low-skilled, third world immigrants of which no reversal of this tide ever looks likely to happen. Britain's youngest and brightest with potential will continue to emigrate to places like America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 23, 2024 14:37:12 GMT
All this is sadly a consequence of the previous Government giving up on serious governing and instead focussing on garnering tabloid headlines. The Rwanda scheme was always a fabulously expensive gimmick - hundreds of millions of pounds wasted. While they were pretending this scheme was credible, no work was done on pursuing agreements to return failed asylum seekers, from learning from other countries what there acceptance criteria were (and hence perpetuating on abnormally high acceptance threshold) and on doing absolutely nothing to process people who arrived in the last two years who by not being processed cannot be removed if they are not eligible or passed and joined the workforce if they are all at very large accommodation cost while nothing productive was happening. They were a shameful bunch who needed to be kicked out of office. Scrapping Rwanda has got nothing to do with the previous government. Scrapping the Bibby Stockholm has got nothing to do with the previous government. Allowing 90,000 criminals with failed asylum applications to remain in this country has got nothing to do with the previous government. Accepting 100,000 illegals from the EU every year has got nothing to do with the previous government. Building hundreds of thousands of homes and pushing illegals to the front of the housing queue has got nothing to do with the previous government. The cracks are already starting to appear, it wont be long before Labour voters begin to look at Starmers pro EU/migrant policies and think - wait a minute, we didn't vote for this. How long I wonder before we see race riots in this country as we've seen, in spite of the news clampdown, in Ireland. And when Labour policy does incite race riots will you and people like you still blame the previous government?.. |
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