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Post by wapentake on Jul 13, 2024 5:13:04 GMT
The point is that, if Islam weren't a religion it would be illegal - just like Nazism is. This can also be said of Christianity - especially if you read the Old Testament - but Christianity has been reformed radically over the centuries and the beliefs of Christians nowadays are not illegal. This cannot be said of Islam. The attitude of muslims to women is atrocious - go and live in a muslim country and see for yourself. And when they come here they bring it all with them. When you live in a muslim country you have to follow their rules - or face the consequences. It's not the same when muslims come here. We kow-tow to them. Everybody's afraid to offend them because they become extremely aggressive. The politicians are afraid to challenge them in case they get knifed and the police are afraid to challenge them in case they get accused of racism. The only bloke who's brave enough to stand up to these bastards is Tommy Robinson - and we should be very grateful for his contribution. Watch the video of his interview with Jordan Peterson and think again. Apart from bit about Robinson that is essentially what I said in the previous post. |
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Post by wapentake on Jul 13, 2024 5:56:19 GMT
Think what you may but as I said a lot of this is around us being made to feel guilty about our past and having read this that they they want to teach kids this
This is from a piece behind a paywall in the telegraph
Which is imo why we are where we are now.
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Post by steppenwolf on Jul 13, 2024 6:18:34 GMT
The muslims relentlessly exploit the persecution of the Jews in Nazi Germany to make people wary of persecuting muslims. That's why they try to align "islamophobia" with anti-semitism - but the two things are completely different. Anti-semitism is simple racism whereas islamophobia is a dislike of the obnoxious teachings of islam. No one should feel guilty about being an islamophobe.
As for guilt about the Empire there are a lot of misconceptions about colonialism. I suppose my father was a "colonial" (in The Gambia) but we didn't live in luxury with black servants etc. His job was (as a trained botanist) to help the blacks grow their own food. They soon had fields of maize over large areas. No one ever talks about the help that we gave the indigenous populations - and we weren't paid for it.
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Post by sandypine on Jul 13, 2024 14:30:39 GMT
The muslims relentlessly exploit the persecution of the Jews in Nazi Germany to make people wary of persecuting muslims. That's why they try to align "islamophobia" with anti-semitism - but the two things are completely different. Anti-semitism is simple racism whereas islamophobia is a dislike of the obnoxious teachings of islam. No one should feel guilty about being an islamophobe. As for guilt about the Empire there are a lot of misconceptions about colonialism. I suppose my father was a "colonial" (in The Gambia) but we didn't live in luxury with black servants etc. His job was (as a trained botanist) to help the blacks grow their own food. They soon had fields of maize over large areas. No one ever talks about the help that we gave the indigenous populations - and we weren't paid for it. Building infrastructure by way of roads, railways, drainage, sewage systems, schools, universities and creating an efficient civil service as well as lifting most of India out of absolute poverty and with similar results in other countries seems to go by the board. The education of children that does not take account of this is basically lying and is not history. So much for the culture wars being over, they are still raging. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2024 19:27:03 GMT
I don't dismiss everything Tommy says out of hand. Yes, he's a bit of a wrong 'un, and yes he's occasionally his own worst enemy.
However, he does recognise the threat radical Islam could pose to the UK, which is something that many politicians just don't understand.
Enoch Powell warned us against warring foreign cultures on our streets.
Tommy warns of an Islamist threat which is incompatible with our generally peaceful and Christian culture.
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Post by steppenwolf on Jul 14, 2024 6:01:22 GMT
I don't dismiss everything Tommy says out of hand. Yes, he's a bit of a wrong 'un, and yes he's occasionally his own worst enemy. However, he does recognise the threat radical Islam could pose to the UK, which is something that many politicians just don't understand. Enoch Powell warned us against warring foreign cultures on our streets. Tommy warns of an Islamist threat which is incompatible with our generally peaceful and Christian culture. It's not just an "Islamist" threat - it's a direct threat from the mainstream teachings of Islam which do NOT support either free speech or tolerance which are both fundamental to life in the UK. And if you let in an intolerant culture it will always overthrow the tolerant one - which is what is happening. |
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Post by piglet on Jul 14, 2024 8:41:41 GMT
Islam ownes all the things the dictatorial left want to eradicate in the british population, misogyny on a cataclysmic scale, racism, intolerance, etc. I dont get it, common sense would suggest bringing such into society should be forbidden, but it is not so. What does the left do about such, and its ghettos. Nothing. Most if not all Asian women are abused in one way or another.
Islam is a religion from centuries past, like Russia and its mongol form of government, from 678 ad and the steppes and a strongman man on a horse sweeping west to kill and conquer.
Our rulers are truly insane.
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Post by sheepy on Jul 15, 2024 9:21:51 GMT
Islam ownes all the things the dictatorial left want to eradicate in the british population, misogyny on a cataclysmic scale, racism, intolerance, etc. I dont get it, common sense would suggest bringing such into society should be forbidden, but it is not so. What does the left do about such, and its ghettos. Nothing. Most if not all Asian women are abused in one way or another. Islam is a religion from centuries past, like Russia and its mongol form of government, from 678 ad and the steppes and a strongman man on a horse sweeping west to kill and conquer. Our rulers are truly insane. They are when it is all about political advantage of one kind or another. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Jul 16, 2024 6:20:45 GMT
It's a mystery. Even relatively intelligent people on this forum support the right to follow Islam. When asked why you never get an answer. The nearest you get is the usual "Not all muslims are terrorists, misogynists etc ". Of course this is true but there is a large, and growing number, of muslims who take the Koran literally and who want to create a global caliphate and impose sharia law on the world. If the number of muslims that MI5 regard as dangerous (over 40,000) is not enough the various polls of muslim opinion that have been conducted make it undeniable.
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 17, 2024 9:15:08 GMT
Robinson is a zionist pupit
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Post by dodgydave on Jul 17, 2024 12:35:42 GMT
Robinson is a zionist pupit A far-right nutcase is a Jewish puppet? lol. That is the dumbest thing I have heard in a long while. Robinson is a football hooligan looking for aggravation, and what better way to cause aggro than going after Muslims. He is right that a good number of Muslims have some terrible attitudes towards women and homosexuals... but let's face it, there are plenty of white folk that do to. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 17, 2024 12:38:45 GMT
Robinson is a zionist pupit A far-right nutcase is a Jewish puppet? lol. That is the dumbest thing I have heard in a long while. Robinson is a football hooligan looking for aggravation, and what better way to cause aggro than going after Muslims. He is right that a good number of Muslims have some terrible attitudes towards women and homosexuals... but let's face it, there are plenty of white folk that do to. And black folks. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 17, 2024 12:40:54 GMT
Robinson is a zionist pupit A far-right nutcase is a Jewish puppet? lol. That is the dumbest thing I have heard in a long while. Robinson is a football hooligan looking for aggravation, and what better way to cause aggro than going after Muslims. He is right that a good number of Muslims have some terrible attitudes towards women and homosexuals... but let's face it, there are plenty of white folk that do to. Dont you think Zionist can't be far right Think about that again Otzma Yehudit (Hebrew: עָוצְמָה יְהוּדִית) or Jewish Power is a far-right, ultra-nationalist, Kahanist and anti-Arab political party in Israel. It is the ideological descendant of the outlawed Kach party. en.wikipedia.org › wiki Otzma Yehudit - Wikipedia |
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Post by steppenwolf on Jul 18, 2024 6:14:09 GMT
Robinson is a zionist pupit He is right that a good number of Muslims have some terrible attitudes towards women and homosexuals... but let's face it, there are plenty of white folk that do to. That's the other apologist excuse for muslims - 1) they're not all like that and 2) We're just as bad. The point is that you're far more likely to find unpalatable views among muslims than among non-muslims - for the simple reason that these views are intrinsic to their religion. You can say that many muslims don't take the Koran literally but an increasing number of them do - the hard line is getting more popular among young muslims. The fact is that if we take, say, 1000 Polish immigrants approximately zero of them will support terrorism. If you take 1000 muslims about 500 will support terrorism - as shown by various polls that asked muslims if violence is justified to advance their cause. |
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Post by dodgydave on Jul 19, 2024 1:57:44 GMT
He is right that a good number of Muslims have some terrible attitudes towards women and homosexuals... but let's face it, there are plenty of white folk that do to. That's the other apologist excuse for muslims - 1) they're not all like that and 2) We're just as bad. The point is that you're far more likely to find unpalatable views among muslims than among non-muslims - for the simple reason that these views are intrinsic to their religion. You can say that many muslims don't take the Koran literally but an increasing number of them do - the hard line is getting more popular among young muslims. The fact is that if we take, say, 1000 Polish immigrants approximately zero of them will support terrorism. If you take 1000 muslims about 500 will support terrorism - as shown by various polls that asked muslims if violence is justified to advance their cause. I didn't excuse anybody. I was just pointing out the obvious, I am surrounded by scum of all colours / faiths. Do I think Islam is compatible with Western countries, hell no, but there is also millions of white scum that are dragging this country down too. |
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