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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 17, 2024 5:04:53 GMT
Labour rejected rejoining, rejected returning to the Single Market or the Customs Union. Read the manifestos. If you want to rejoin the EU you should have voted Lib Dem. Who on about rejoin vinny well YOU clearly are. Although it is hard to believe a word Sir Kneel A Lot says, after all, he spent half his election campaign time trying to deny he now still believed the course he pursued and conspired with the speaker to bring about after his members swore blind in their 2017 manifestos they wouldn't So I would agree a large number of people feared voting for him would end with an EU reunion which is why the numbers that actually voted labour tanked and his majority was caused not by popular support but by popular hatred of the greasy bastard opposite. That hatred will soon ooze his way. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 17, 2024 5:16:32 GMT
Ive not had it bad with the nhs . Only when i bad a stroke told to wait up 8hrs for a Ambulance. Luckily had a friend at home we got a taxi on a 11 mile journey. Then you are lucky WELSH labour have run the NHS here from the moment Blair handed it to them and it took a pandemic and total cancellation of all non life threatening surgery to bring England down to Wales' level. Welsh ambulance response times were so fucking abysmal Carwyn The Clod, Dickford's predecessor, ABANDONED the former UK wide response target and brought in another allowing them to meet their target if all they did was collect the body before significant decomposition began and they even failed to meet that. The only reason I had a fast response car rock up when I had my stroke was that Chris the paramedic who lives across the road, and his mate Mark, spend large chunks of their shift parked up in the car on the motorway slip road literally up the road from this house, because Labour road building is so fucked and Labour closure of Ambulance stations means there is nowhere else to park up. It is commonplace for old people who fall to wait all day for the wagon to come. In 2019 they would have left my wife dead on the floor for six hours, and the chap up the road had to be taken to Effing Gethin's brand new, but only 30% staffed, Trauma centre in the back of a builder's van, strapped to a wooden plank. He died. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 17, 2024 7:05:23 GMT
Ive not had it bad with the nhs . Only when i bad a stroke told to wait up 8hrs for a Ambulance. Luckily had a friend at home we got a taxi on a 11 mile journey. Then you are lucky WELSH labour have run the NHS here from the moment Blair handed it to them and it took a pandemic and total cancellation of all non life threatening surgery to bring England down to Wales' level. Welsh ambulance response times were so fucking abysmal Carwyn The Clod, Dickford's predecessor, ABANDONED the former UK wide response target and brought in another allowing them to meet their target if all they did was collect the body before significant decomposition began and they even failed to meet that. The only reason I had a fast response car rock up when I had my stroke was that Chris the paramedic who lives across the road, and his mate Mark, spend large chunks of their shift parked up in the car on the motorway slip road literally up the road from this house, because Labour road building is so fucked and Labour closure of Ambulance stations means there is nowhere else to park up. It is commonplace for old people who fall to wait all day for the wagon to come. In 2019 they would have left my wife dead on the floor for six hours, and the chap up the road had to be taken to Effing Gethin's brand new, but only 30% staffed, Trauma centre in the back of a builder's van, strapped to a wooden plank. He died. How the BNP doing lately |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 17, 2024 7:29:34 GMT
Destroyed, by Nigel Farage and UK Independence from the EU.
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 17, 2024 7:51:17 GMT
Destroyed, by Nigel Farage and UK Independence from the EU. Nope destroyed by the equity act introduced by new labour |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 17, 2024 8:48:10 GMT
Destroyed, by Nigel Farage and UK Independence from the EU. Nope destroyed by the equity act introduced by new labour Except they weren't. Look at what happened in 2009, at the EU elections, the BNP got 943,598 votes, UKIP got 2,498,226 votes. 2010 BNP 564,331 UKIP 919,546 2014 BNP 179,694 UKIP 4,376,635 2015 BNP 1,667 UKIP 3,881,099 |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 17, 2024 9:00:57 GMT
Nope destroyed by the equity act introduced by new labour Except they weren't. Look at what happened in 2009, at the EU elections, the BNP got 943,598 votes, UKIP got 2,498,226 votes. 2010 BNP 564,331 UKIP 919,546 2014 BNP 179,694 UKIP 4,376,635 2015 BN0P 1,667 UKIP 3,881,099 The Equality Act 2010[1] (c. 15), often erroneously called the Equalities Act 2010, is an act of Parliament of the United Kingdom passed during the Brown ministry with the primary purpose of consolidating, updating and supplementing the numerous prior Acts and Regulations, that formed the basis of anti-discrimination law in mostly England, Scotland and Wales; some sections also apply to Northern Ireland. |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 17, 2024 9:10:45 GMT
Nothing to do with the demise of the BNP vote, they still got nearly 180k votes in 2014.
UKIP offering a non racist alternative voice on immigration destroyed them and you haven't stopped sulking about it.
You see, the hard left and the hard right both require enemies in order to justify their behaviour.
With the BNP destroyed by UKIP, rather than the hard left, the hard left invented a new enemy in a caricature of UKIP and tried to destroy UKIP in order to justify their own continued existence.
What destroyed UKIP? Brexit.
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Post by bancroft on Jul 17, 2024 9:19:23 GMT
The BNP were damaged by hackers revealing their members details on-line. This led to a number of teachers, military and police people losing their jobs.
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Post by Vinny on Jul 17, 2024 11:13:53 GMT
The members list, leaked by someone on the inside, was leaked in 2009.
The vote fell because of the rise of UKIP.
And instead of going oh good, they're gone, Hope Not Hate went, oh shit, they're gone, we need a new enemy to justify our continued existence as an organisation.
So they turned on the very people who had destroyed fascism in the UK.
Hasn't gone well for them.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 17, 2024 11:20:25 GMT
Then you are lucky WELSH labour have run the NHS here from the moment Blair handed it to them and it took a pandemic and total cancellation of all non life threatening surgery to bring England down to Wales' level. Welsh ambulance response times were so fucking abysmal Carwyn The Clod, Dickford's predecessor, ABANDONED the former UK wide response target and brought in another allowing them to meet their target if all they did was collect the body before significant decomposition began and they even failed to meet that. The only reason I had a fast response car rock up when I had my stroke was that Chris the paramedic who lives across the road, and his mate Mark, spend large chunks of their shift parked up in the car on the motorway slip road literally up the road from this house, because Labour road building is so fucked and Labour closure of Ambulance stations means there is nowhere else to park up. It is commonplace for old people who fall to wait all day for the wagon to come. In 2019 they would have left my wife dead on the floor for six hours, and the chap up the road had to be taken to Effing Gethin's brand new, but only 30% staffed, Trauma centre in the back of a builder's van, strapped to a wooden plank. He died. How the BNP doing lately I wouldn’t know. But what’s that got to do with corruption and incompetence in Labour Ministers of State ? |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 17, 2024 11:22:58 GMT
Just wondering because you seem to mention Brons and Griffen a lot |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 17, 2024 11:26:08 GMT
Nothing to do with the demise of the BNP vote, they still got nearly 180k votes in 2014. UKIP offering a non racist alternative voice on immigration destroyed them and you haven't stopped sulking about it. You see, the hard left and the hard right both require enemies in order to justify their behaviour. With the BNP destroyed by UKIP, rather than the hard left, the hard left invented a new enemy in a caricature of UKIP and tried to destroy UKIP in order to justify their own continued existence. What destroyed UKIP? Brexit. So your saying ex BNP members swiched Allowance to farage thank for Confirming that . |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 17, 2024 11:29:26 GMT
Just wondering because you seem to mention Brons and Griffen a lot well, i think it’s worth mentioning the last time labour were in power they chose to do fuck all about child grooming by the cult of mohammedanism and that led directly to public support for the only people from the same ethnic group as the vast majority who would speak up for them and highlight tbe crimes being perpetrated under Labour’s nose that the then Home Secretary did nothing about because if he did he’d lose his seat as the islamics would no longer vote for him… |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 17, 2024 11:36:28 GMT
Just wondering because you seem to mention Brons and Griffen a lot well, i think it’s worth mentioning the last time labour were in power they chose to do fuck all about child grooming by the cult of mohammedanism and that led directly to public support for the only people from the same ethnic group as the vast majority who would speak up for them and highlight tbe crimes being perpetrated under Labour’s nose that the then Home Secretary did nothing about because if he did he’d lose his seat as the islamics would no longer vote for him… They did prenty do you ownly think it was a problem post 1997 |
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