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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 28, 2024 13:01:13 GMT
I say may, because I honestly do not know, but I will tell you what I do know.
1) The man who was working for Reform to campaign and was exposed by Channel 4 in an undercover sting was an actor who worked for the BBC and was on various BBC crap shows/films.
2) Reform are investigating this allegation and intend to prosecute Channel 4 if they uncover proof that the racist conspired with Channel 4 to falsely represent Reform.
So it either was this or it wasn't, and none of us know which it is. If it turns out Reform does find proof then Channel 4 are in hot trouble, else we will forget about it and it will be another bit of nonsense.
Edit: I just picked this same story up from another source which said additionally:
3) He did an interview wit the Telegraph where he denied he was an actor, but later it was discovered he was lying.
4) He is said to normally speak in a very posh voice.
So given 1-4 are true, which by the way, I'm only being told these things via reports myself so it's not cast iron, but if they are then it does look a bit fishy. Maybe he just uses his acting skills to fit in with the racists. It's possible, but in today's times, dirty tricks are often employed in desperate situations.
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 28, 2024 13:30:43 GMT
I'd like to see the evidence for #1 before commenting.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 28, 2024 13:42:53 GMT
I'd like to see the evidence for #1 before commenting. There is an actor of the same name in the BBC's history of actors, and people claim they look the same. If you dig a bit you might find the pictures they refer to. I'm just passing on the basis for this belief. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 28, 2024 13:44:02 GMT
Can you dig for me please?  |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 28, 2024 14:11:03 GMT
Can you dig for me please? I'll keep my eye open and see if this story gains any traction. I understand Farage is on the case about this. I'm just cautious since I've probably heard more bullshit than had hot dinners when it comes to politics, but I guess these things liven things up a bit. I'll let you know if Reform initiate legal proceedings. If they don't then we can probably regard it as false. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 28, 2024 23:00:46 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 28, 2024 23:06:23 GMT
Can you dig for me please? I'll keep my eye open and see if this story gains any traction. I understand Farage is on the case about this. I'm just cautious since I've probably heard more bullshit than had hot dinners when it comes to politics, but I guess these things liven things up a bit. I'll let you know if Reform initiate legal proceedings. If they don't then we can probably regard it as false. It's not bullshit. This has been mentioned on at least two other threads today. Andrew Parker approached Reform UK and volunteered to post leaflets, to be an unpaid canvasser, and he pretended to have an 'estuary' accent when in fact he is very well spoken. Is Channel 4 behind this? Who knows, but I have every confidence the truth will out in the end. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 28, 2024 23:19:31 GMT
I'll keep my eye open and see if this story gains any traction. I understand Farage is on the case about this. I'm just cautious since I've probably heard more bullshit than had hot dinners when it comes to politics, but I guess these things liven things up a bit. I'll let you know if Reform initiate legal proceedings. If they don't then we can probably regard it as false. It's not bullshit. This has been mentioned on at least two other threads today. Andrew Parker approached Reform UK and volunteered to post leaflets, to be an unpaid canvasser, and he pretended to have an 'estuary' accent when in fact he is very well spoken. Is Channel 4 behind this? Who knows, but I have every confidence the truth will out in the end. I have much more information now. I just reported the OP as the information was emerging. |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 29, 2024 12:08:51 GMT
Just a matter of weeks ago you were slagging Nigel off.
Now you treat him like a hero, did China tell you to change your mind?
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 29, 2024 14:17:00 GMT
Just a matter of weeks ago you were slagging Nigel off. Now you treat him like a hero, did China tell you to change your mind? I have mixed views so you seem to think I'm all for or all against, hence each time I make a negative remark you think I'm agaisnt him and each time I make a positive remark you think I'm for him. Well I'm not a bloody fan bot and like to think for myself.
I mean on the positive side he is a skilled campaigner and that will cause seats and seats will cause pressure on what some call the uniparty. It's kind of like winning the battle rather than war. It all helps.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2024 14:19:50 GMT
They pulled the site rather quickly. Channel 4 is obviously corrupt to the core and lying to the people for the establishment. The sort of thing many on here bash Russia for is happening in the UK. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 29, 2024 14:40:47 GMT
They pulled the site rather quickly. Channel 4 is obviously corrupt to the core and lying to the people for the establishment. The sort of thing many on here bash Russia for is happening in the UK. No morals at all. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 30, 2024 16:57:25 GMT
Reform UK has made an official complaint against Channel 4 over 'electoral interference' after claiming the broadcaster used an actor as a 'plant' during an undercover sting.
Adam Richardson, the Reform secretary, said in a letter to the Electoral Commission that it was 'entirely evident' that a Reform activist filmed making a string of sickening racist remarks was 'a plant within the Channel 4 News piece'.
Adam Richardson said; It is wholly unbelievable that by complete coincidence Channel 4 were performing an undercover investigation and by chance bumped into a canvasser who was pretending to be someone else using a false voice and saying almost exclusively racist and bigoted remarks.
I sincerely hope the Electoral Commission take this complaint seriously.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 30, 2024 17:43:47 GMT
Reform UK has made an official complaint against Channel 4 over 'electoral interference' after claiming the broadcaster used an actor as a 'plant' during an undercover sting. Adam Richardson, the Reform secretary, said in a letter to the Electoral Commission that it was 'entirely evident' that a Reform activist filmed making a string of sickening racist remarks was 'a plant within the Channel 4 News piece'. Adam Richardson said; It is wholly unbelievable that by complete coincidence Channel 4 were performing an undercover investigation and by chance bumped into a canvasser who was pretending to be someone else using a false voice and saying almost exclusively racist and bigoted remarks. I sincerely hope the Electoral Commission take this complaint seriously. There has since emerged a bit of contrary evidence which favour's Channel 4's position. Some BBC woman I think it was started interrogating Farage on this man, and Farage said a load of stuff to defend himself, but then inadvertently let slip in his wrongly thought-out defence that he had only met him once before and that was a long time ago. The man himself in the undercover video also says he only met Farage once and that was a long time ago, so they agree with one another on this. The trouble is, it is a bit of a coincidence that they met a long time ago and Channel 4 picked the same bloke to go undercover. You have two coincidences, the other being they just happened to film an actor advertising he does undercover work. If Farage had not admitted he had met him previously, we might imagine the mention on the undercover video that he had met Farage was part of the lie, but Farage confirmed it. Weird eh? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 30, 2024 17:58:23 GMT
Reform UK has made an official complaint against Channel 4 over 'electoral interference' after claiming the broadcaster used an actor as a 'plant' during an undercover sting. Adam Richardson, the Reform secretary, said in a letter to the Electoral Commission that it was 'entirely evident' that a Reform activist filmed making a string of sickening racist remarks was 'a plant within the Channel 4 News piece'. Adam Richardson said; It is wholly unbelievable that by complete coincidence Channel 4 were performing an undercover investigation and by chance bumped into a canvasser who was pretending to be someone else using a false voice and saying almost exclusively racist and bigoted remarks. I sincerely hope the Electoral Commission take this complaint seriously. There has since emerged a bit of contrary evidence which favour's Channel 4's position. Some BBC woman I think it was started interrogating Farage on this man, and Farage said a load of stuff to defend himself, but then inadvertently let slip in his wrongly thought-out defence that he had only met him once before and that was a long time ago. The man himself in the undercover video also says he only met Farage once and that was a long time ago, so they agree with one another on this. The trouble is, it is a bit of a coincidence that they met a long time ago and Channel 4 picked the same bloke to go undercover. You have two coincidences, the other being they just happened to film an actor advertising he does undercover work. If Farage had not admitted he had met him previously, we might imagine the mention on the undercover video that he had met Farage was part of the lie, but Farage confirmed it. Weird eh? This is typical of the dirty tricks used by the establishment to discredit/close down Farage. He's used to it, look at the Farage de-banking scandal, the BBC were involved in that and the left wing press were quick to laugh at Farage for being de-banked and to use one of his one liners, 'they aint laughing now'. This has little or nothing to do with Reform UK, this is about the establishment who are desperate to silence Farage. And here's a prediction, the more they rubbish and smear him, as they did when he was leader of UKIP, the stronger he will get. |
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