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Post by Pacifico on Jul 1, 2024 16:06:33 GMT
The Hamas boys who celebrate Hamas terrrorism on here, using multiple accounts, collectively spank the report button when people point out their hypocrisy. I think it's all organised on Orac's and Montegriffo's troll farm. I have only ever had one account on this forum ( as in one account at any one given time ) As much as I am no fan of Jeremy Corbyn, and glad he's gone, together with most of his followers, I still defy anyone to point to, or quote anything he ever said which was antisemitic. ? NOT something which can be interpreted as been antisemitic, but something he actually said which was racist aginst Jewish people. As for "celebrating Hamas terrorism" ... Its such a pathetic accusation, also without any foundation or evidence, that its not even worth arguing the point.
What you actually mean is the statement thus : "The Israelis reap what they sow", which I stand by, because they have reaped what they sow. So describing Hamas as his friends and attending a memorial service for the Munich terrorists don't count? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2024 16:11:07 GMT
Well clearly intelligent debate here is hard to come by as you have just proven, lol Whereas on your otherwise dead forum the most popular thread is one complaining about this forum. 
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2024 16:24:38 GMT
You think I don't belong in your echo chamber? I post here when I feel like it. When it becomes too dull or irritating for a while I fuck off and go elsewhere. You hate this place, hate the posters. You run off to another forum (fair enough) and then make a thread about this forum. You are obsessed sunshine. If you had any principles you would fuck off for good. I don't actually hate anyone here. No one here is significant enough in my life to be worth hating. Hate is after all a very strong word, requiring a lot of negative emotional investment. People have to matter to you a lot or have done a lot of harm to you in some way to be worth hating. There are quite a few here whose politics I am contemptuous off, and in some cases whose intelligence or even rationality I question, but that is not the same thing as hate. But there are others here whom I have some measure of respect for. And a few whom I agree with from time to time. But like I said, I come here when I feel like it, and not when I don't. And when I do come here it is in part sometimes to trigger the gammons for my own amusement occasionally. But also because I see value in debating sensibly with people who disagree with me, when they are prepared to debate sensibly as well. Two examples I might name in this latter regard are Pacifico and Vinny. Both play the ball and not the man. I tend to reserve any trolling for those who themselves tend to troll those they disagree with. Which happens to be quite a few on this forum. Though rarely your good self if I am honest. You can respond aggressively and insultingly at times, but you do at least mostly try and argue your point without resorting to blatant trolling. |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 1, 2024 16:54:35 GMT
I'm not having a go at you, I am just puzzled.
Why do you have the picture of an ardent Euroskeptic who spent his entire political career in opposition to the EU, as your avatar and "all power to the EU" as your signature?
This is what he stood for:
Tony Benn advocated "all power, to the voters".
I really don't know how or why Labour moved from being so vehemently opposed to the transfer of power from democratic governments, to the Commission, to being so in favour of it, but once upon a time they were a democratically minded bunch worthy of respect for their support of democracy.
Him, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle and others all spoke in favour of democratic independence just as the likes of Daniel Hannan and Nigel Farage now do.
Anyway, it's not that I'm opposed to foreigners, it's that I am pro democracy and as long as the EU is governed by Commission, it isn't one.
There is nothing wrong with being independent of it, but friendly with it.
It is much better to be a good neighbour, than a miserable tenant.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 1, 2024 17:35:17 GMT
Whereas on your otherwise dead forum the most popular thread is one complaining about this forum.
Now why not troll somewhere else, you sad little man. To coin a phrase - oh the irony. lol I was going to ask if you know what "Irony" means but then I remembered that you're a lefty, so you obviously don't. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 1, 2024 17:38:42 GMT
You hate this place, hate the posters. You run off to another forum (fair enough) and then make a thread about this forum. You are obsessed sunshine. If you had any principles you would fuck off for good. I don't actually hate anyone here. No one here is significant enough in my life to be worth hating. Hate is after all a very strong word, requiring a lot of negative emotional investment. People have to matter to you a lot or have done a lot of harm to you in some way to be worth hating. There are quite a few here whose politics I am contemptuous off, and in some cases whose intelligence or even rationality I question, but that is not the same thing as hate. But there are others here whom I have some measure of respect for. And a few whom I agree with from time to time. But like I said, I come here when I feel like it, and not when I don't. And when I do come here it is in part sometimes to trigger the gammons for my own amusement occasionally. But also because I see value in debating sensibly with people who disagree with me, when they are prepared to debate sensibly as well. Two examples I might name in this latter regard are Pacifico and Vinny. Both play the ball and not the man. I tend to reserve any trolling for those who themselves tend to troll those they disagree with. Which happens to be quite a few on this forum. Though rarely your good self if I am honest. You can respond aggressively and insultingly at times, but you do at least mostly try and argue your point without resorting to blatant trolling. You are a Gammon , you moron . “Gammon is a pejorative popularised in British political culture since around 2012. The term refers in particular to the colour of a person's flushed face when expressing their strong opinions, as compared to the type of pork of the same name” en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gammon_(insult)#:~:text=Gammon%20is%20a%20pejorative%20popularised,pork%20of%20the%20same%20name. |
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Post by see2 on Jul 1, 2024 17:41:35 GMT
I'm not having a go at you, I am just puzzled. Why do you have the picture of an ardent Euroskeptic who spent his entire political career in opposition to the EU, as your avatar and "all power to the EU" as your signature? This is what he stood for: Tony Benn advocated "all power, to the voters". I really don't know how or why Labour moved from being so vehemently opposed to the transfer of power from democratic governments, to the Commission, to being so in favour of it, but once upon a time they were a democratically minded bunch worthy of respect for their support of democracy. Him, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle and others all spoke in favour of democratic independence just as the likes of Daniel Hannan and Nigel Farage now do. Anyway, it's not that I'm opposed to foreigners, it's that I am pro democracy and as long as the EU is governed by Commission, it isn't one. There is nothing wrong with being independent of it, but friendly with it. It is much better to be a good neighbour, than a miserable tenant. The EU is "GOVERNED by the Commission" is not true, why do you claim it is? The only power the Commission has is to see that member play by rules and regulations already passed by the EU parliament. |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 1, 2024 18:51:21 GMT
I'm not having a go at you, I am just puzzled. Why do you have the picture of an ardent Euroskeptic who spent his entire political career in opposition to the EU, as your avatar and "all power to the EU" as your signature? This is what he stood for: Tony Benn advocated "all power, to the voters". I really don't know how or why Labour moved from being so vehemently opposed to the transfer of power from democratic governments, to the Commission, to being so in favour of it, but once upon a time they were a democratically minded bunch worthy of respect for their support of democracy. Him, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle and others all spoke in favour of democratic independence just as the likes of Daniel Hannan and Nigel Farage now do. Anyway, it's not that I'm opposed to foreigners, it's that I am pro democracy and as long as the EU is governed by Commission, it isn't one. There is nothing wrong with being independent of it, but friendly with it. It is much better to be a good neighbour, than a miserable tenant. The EU is "GOVERNED by the Commission" is not true, why do you claim it is? The only power the Commission has is to see that member play by rules and regulations already passed by the EU parliament. No the Commission's power is drawn from the treaties, much of which was passed with no parliament and with ministers, certainly of the UK, not really understanding what they were signing. To quote Douglas Hurd "Well we have signed it we better go and read it" The EU parliament is a fairly new addition to the EEC/EU and many rules and regs were passed into law before the parliament came into being and before 1979 MEPs were appointees. The Lisbon Treaty is a largely indecipherable lawyers goldmine. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2024 19:40:39 GMT
I have only ever had one account on this forum ( as in one account at any one given time ) As much as I am no fan of Jeremy Corbyn, and glad he's gone, together with most of his followers, I still defy anyone to point to, or quote anything he ever said which was antisemitic. ? NOT something which can be interpreted as been antisemitic, but something he actually said which was racist aginst Jewish people. As for "celebrating Hamas terrorism" ... Its such a pathetic accusation, also without any foundation or evidence, that its not even worth arguing the point.
What you actually mean is the statement thus : "The Israelis reap what they sow", which I stand by, because they have reaped what they sow. So describing Hamas as his friends and attending a memorial service for the Munich terrorists don't count? Nearly everyone of his posts is full of propaganda and lies. He'll scream racist whilst denying his justification and celebration of Hamas terrorist attacks in Israel as they were happening. It was when he was pulled up on it that he deleted his account and returned under another account. Trying to claim Starmer is any different to Corbyn is another of his lies, since Starmer supported Corbyn, sucked up to Islam for votes (along with his ginger growler) and backed Corbyn 100% as Labour leader when Corbyn was using his position to embrace the Jew haters, even going as far as earning Hamas' support.
This is why they want everyone banned or the platform trolled to death. They do not tolerate any objection. They are totalitarian to the core, and no different to Islamists, Communists, Fascists and actual Nazis.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2024 19:44:14 GMT
I don't actually hate anyone here. No one here is significant enough in my life to be worth hating. Hate is after all a very strong word, requiring a lot of negative emotional investment. People have to matter to you a lot or have done a lot of harm to you in some way to be worth hating. There are quite a few here whose politics I am contemptuous off, and in some cases whose intelligence or even rationality I question, but that is not the same thing as hate. But there are others here whom I have some measure of respect for. And a few whom I agree with from time to time. But like I said, I come here when I feel like it, and not when I don't. And when I do come here it is in part sometimes to trigger the gammons for my own amusement occasionally. But also because I see value in debating sensibly with people who disagree with me, when they are prepared to debate sensibly as well. Two examples I might name in this latter regard are Pacifico and Vinny. Both play the ball and not the man. I tend to reserve any trolling for those who themselves tend to troll those they disagree with. Which happens to be quite a few on this forum. Though rarely your good self if I am honest. You can respond aggressively and insultingly at times, but you do at least mostly try and argue your point without resorting to blatant trolling. You are a Gammon , you moron . “Gammon is a pejorative popularised in British political culture since around 2012. The term refers in particular to the colour of a person's flushed face when expressing their strong opinions, as compared to the type of pork of the same name” en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gammon_(insult)#:~:text=Gammon%20is%20a%20pejorative%20popularised,pork%20of%20the%20same%20name. They're often accused of being self-loathing and this is why. The reason he uses it is because their establishment have instructed them to, be it Tory, Labour or the LibDems. I guess it's a form of depravity, as well as cowardice whilst knowing racism is encouraged toward the good people of this country. |
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 1, 2024 20:03:56 GMT
I have only ever had one account on this forum ( as in one account at any one given time ) As much as I am no fan of Jeremy Corbyn, and glad he's gone, together with most of his followers, I still defy anyone to point to, or quote anything he ever said which was antisemitic. ? NOT something which can be interpreted as been antisemitic, but something he actually said which was racist aginst Jewish people. As for "celebrating Hamas terrorism" ... Its such a pathetic accusation, also without any foundation or evidence, that its not even worth arguing the point.
What you actually mean is the statement thus : "The Israelis reap what they sow", which I stand by, because they have reaped what they sow. So describing Hamas as his friends and attending a memorial service for the Munich terrorists don't count? Who Jeremy Corbyn describes as "his friends" is up to him, but back then, describing Hamas as his friends was not antisemitic. The highly respected Jewish Labour MP Gerald Kaufman described Yasser Arafat as "his friend", and Arafat was leader of the Palestine Liberation Organisation, but I dont think Mr Kaufman was antisemitic. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2024 20:06:21 GMT
See how he plays it down like it's perfectly normal for a British MP to regard a proscribed terrorist organisation, which openly wants the genocide of Jews from Israel, as his friends. They're evil and trying to normalise Jew hatred in this country.
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 1, 2024 20:15:32 GMT
So describing Hamas as his friends and attending a memorial service for the Munich terrorists don't count? Nearly everyone of his posts is full of propaganda and lies. He'll scream racist whilst denying his justification and celebration of Hamas terrorist attacks in Israel as they were happening. It was when he was pulled up on it that he deleted his account and returned under another account. Trying to claim Starmer is any different to Corbyn is another of his lies, since Starmer supported Corbyn, sucked up to Islam for votes (along with his ginger growler) and backed Corbyn 100% as Labour leader when Corbyn was using his position to embrace the Jew haters, even going as far as earning Hamas' support.
This is why they want everyone banned or the platform trolled to death. They do not tolerate any objection. They are totalitarian to the core, and no different to Islamists, Communists, Fascists and actual Nazis.
Explain where, or how in your opinion I "celebrated the Hamas attack of October 7th" ? Can you remember any such post where I celebrated the Hamas terror attack - Or even find the post, or what it was I said which gives you the impression that I would celebrate the Hamas attack. ? I was accussed of been anti-semitic on this forum because I defended the right of pro Palestinan marchers to demonstrate in London, and because of that I was accused of been antisemitic, which was and is utterly PATHETIC. I have not at any time, ever, made any comment or statement on these boards which was antisemitic. You B-4 .... are a LIAR |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2024 20:20:21 GMT
I said you are trying to normalise Jew hatred and that you did justify and celebrate Hamas terrorism as it was happening under your previous account, which you deleted. The marches only started when Israel responded. Before then it was hordes or backwards running out into the streets to celebrate, whilst you were claiming that those who were being slaughtered somehow deserved it. It's you who is the liar.
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 1, 2024 20:52:47 GMT
I said you are trying to normalise Jew hatred and that you did justify and celebrate Hamas terrorism as it was happening under your previous account, which you deleted. The marches only started when Israel responded. Before then it was hordes or backwards running out into the streets to celebrate, whilst you were claiming that those who were being slaughtered somehow deserved it. It's you who is the liar. No, you are 100% wrong I would not, and did not celebrate Hamas terrorism Also, I would never, ever, suggest or state that those who were murdered at the hands of Hamas "deserved it" Unlike many who support Reform UK, I detest all forms of racism, including racism against Jews, otherwise called "Anti Semitism". I criticise the Israeli government and their actions, and the actions of the IDF, but thats not antisemitic. Sorry but you are just coming out with bull shit |
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