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Post by sandypine on Jun 13, 2024 19:40:24 GMT
No it isn't. The point of art is to be beautiful. That's the goal and no other. That's the pure form of art, and architecture is applied art. With architecture you have the need for utility, and that is why it can't be pure. I don't think modernism was ever conceived to be for the purpose of novelty. It did emphasise functionality though. It was trying to blend the two so you had something that works and looks right. As with any movement though you have the good examples and the bad ones. I think you need to define it by the good examples though. Art itself around this time was being degraded, as in pop art continued the replacement of beauty with novelty. Novelty is simply not art. It's a substitute. Proper art is timeless. Anyway, on that note, you can make up your own mind if the house in the OP has aged. Does it look old fashioned, or would you personally like to live in it without the feeling that it is too kitsch? That's the real test: how does a work age. Same with music. That is not what many art societies say. They have a panoply of purposes to art which encompasses beauty but is by no means restricted to, or indeed inclusive of, beauty. To be honest I do not think I would like to live in the house given choices, it has a starkness and is reminiscent of some of the more nobly intended efforts in Grand Designs, but then I am an architectural Philistine and living in any house dreamed up by architects tends to be poorly thought out in terms of convenience for how I wish to live. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 13, 2024 20:18:17 GMT
No it isn't. The point of art is to be beautiful. That's the goal and no other. That's the pure form of art, and architecture is applied art. With architecture you have the need for utility, and that is why it can't be pure. I don't think modernism was ever conceived to be for the purpose of novelty. It did emphasise functionality though. It was trying to blend the two so you had something that works and looks right. As with any movement though you have the good examples and the bad ones. I think you need to define it by the good examples though. Art itself around this time was being degraded, as in pop art continued the replacement of beauty with novelty. Novelty is simply not art. It's a substitute. Proper art is timeless. Anyway, on that note, you can make up your own mind if the house in the OP has aged. Does it look old fashioned, or would you personally like to live in it without the feeling that it is too kitsch? That's the real test: how does a work age. Same with music. That is not what many art societies say. They have a panoply of purposes to art which encompasses beauty but is by no means restricted to, or indeed inclusive of, beauty. To be honest I do not think I would like to live in the house given choices, it has a starkness and is reminiscent of some of the more nobly intended efforts in Grand Designs, but then I am an architectural Philistine and living in any house dreamed up by architects tends to be poorly thought out in terms of convenience for how I wish to live. Do you like this one? This is modern modernism, as in it is a new build from near where I come from.
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Post by sandypine on Jun 14, 2024 7:15:29 GMT
That is not what many art societies say. They have a panoply of purposes to art which encompasses beauty but is by no means restricted to, or indeed inclusive of, beauty. To be honest I do not think I would like to live in the house given choices, it has a starkness and is reminiscent of some of the more nobly intended efforts in Grand Designs, but then I am an architectural Philistine and living in any house dreamed up by architects tends to be poorly thought out in terms of convenience for how I wish to live. Do you like this one? This is modern modernism, as in it is a new build from near where I come from.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 14, 2024 9:51:49 GMT
No. Did you ever see the film Zabriskie Point? You must have a cheap taste in architecture! That's a £5m house.
I have not watched Zabriskie Point. What architectural points does it raise?
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 14, 2024 11:59:49 GMT
This was the last house he designed, which is currently on the market, so we get a look inside. This was also recently renovated to bring it back to what it was when it was built, and also has the Frank Lloyd Wright's Foundation's seal of approval. What more could you ask for.
You see it has much in common with the one in the OP. I think it is safe to say the design is considered good enough today to have such a lot of money spent on renovation. They have not cut any corners. Well you won't find a corner in this place lol!
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Post by sandypine on Jun 14, 2024 13:12:43 GMT
No. Did you ever see the film Zabriskie Point? You must have a cheap taste in architecture! That's a £5m house.
I have not watched Zabriskie Point. What architectural points does it raise?
Probably but I am not a glass box fan. In Zabriskie Point the rather similar architectural idea is blown up in an imagined and over lengthy sequence. |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 14, 2024 13:15:32 GMT
This was the last house he designed, which is currently on the market, so we get a look inside. This was also recently renovated to bring it back to what it was when it was built, and also has the Frank Lloyd Wright's Foundation's seal of approval. What more could you ask for.
You see it has much in common with the one in the OP. I think it is safe to say the design is considered good enough today to have such a lot of money spent on renovation. They have not cut any corners. Well you won't find a corner in this place lol!
I like corners, I can stack boxes in corners full of things I cannot bring myself to throw away but will probably still be there when I kick the bucket which is presently residing in a corner in the garden room. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 14, 2024 13:20:09 GMT
This was the last house he designed, which is currently on the market, so we get a look inside. This was also recently renovated to bring it back to what it was when it was built, and also has the Frank Lloyd Wright's Foundation's seal of approval. What more could you ask for.
You see it has much in common with the one in the OP. I think it is safe to say the design is considered good enough today to have such a lot of money spent on renovation. They have not cut any corners. Well you won't find a corner in this place lol!
I like corners, I can stack boxes in corners full of things I cannot bring myself to throw away but will probably still be there when I kick the bucket which is presently residing in a corner in the garden room. Do you get the feeling you are on a ship in that house? Ships seem to have been a thing with modernists. Le Corbusier took the idea of decks of ships to design urban housing.
In case you have not noticed, that house has more inbuilt cupboards that you would have had hot dinners. Ships are similar. Everything on a ship is stowed away or else it will come flying into your head in a bad storm.
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