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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 24, 2024 11:52:36 GMT
There are rumours of infighting within Reform UK. Farage's decision not to stand as a candidate has apparently not gone down very well. It seems Ben Habib in particular, is less than impressed with Farage. Habib comes across as pretty intelligent in my estimation. I listened to him do a pitch to investors for his property group and can confirm he is someone who is something of an expert in finance. Farage on the other hand seems to have had a bit of a toff upbringing. I was close friends and actually lived with a chap who went to his old public school and recognise the similarities. The school basically teaches you how to bullshit your opponents in order to get ahead in life. Habib on the other hand studied Natural Sciences at Cambridge. Out of all the universities in this country, I personally rank Cambridge as number one and by a fair margin too, indeed better than Oxford which I feel is going woke and stupid these days.
So there you go, that's the main different between the two. Farage got to work as a trader at the London Metal Exchange which really does not require any brains at all. It's just a high pressure game of buying and selling very fast. Habib on the other hand started a property group and made a ton of money, so became a Conservative donor. Farage made the bulk of his money being a politician and being paid by the European Parliament. I get it that Habib is the kind of person who is used to dealing with intelligent and sensible businessmen. Farage pretends to be, but I think he sees right through him. This will have just confirmed it.
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Post by Dogburger on May 24, 2024 11:52:43 GMT
Always found him likeable enough and was the man that got us the referendum so he has some credit in the bank as far as I'm concerned . He has never said he would stand again in fact he has said in the past he was done with standing for election. So its no shock that he is not standing for Reform though I wouldn't count it out in the future . Sure, his public persona is down to perfection. You have to talk to people who have actually worked for the bastard, like say Gerard Batten to know, and there were many others he screwed over. Unfortunately the man is every bit the dictator he accuses the EU of being. It's just the way of the world. Some of the most credible-sounding people are indeed the meanest of the lot. Conversely some of those who really don't come across well in public are the really clever people who read a lot of books and don't attend too many parties and piss-ups. Another problem with democracy is it takes a really clever person to recognise the genius in someone else, and our country is mostly full of stupid people, hence why the entertainment is so remedial these days. Gerard Batten was the man who told the truth, but people got upset with the truth. Indeed paradoxically this country worked better when the vote was not universal. 'Pre-1832. Counties: From 1429 the right to vote was given to men aged 21 or over, owning freehold lands or tenements with an annual net value of 40s or more.' but the thing was pre 1832 we were one of the richest countries in the world. By 1928 woman got the same vote as men, but by that time our empire was already coming to an end. They want to lower the voting age even further now and give rights to brainwashed children. I have talked to people who worked with Farage including Batten ,they got on OK until Batten as leader of UKIP went down the Islamaphobic route and employed the thug Robinson .Their relationship soured further with the formation of the Brexit party which more or less consigned UKIP to the political graveyard . Farage didn't screw anyone over at UKIP , they did that for themselves . |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 24, 2024 12:32:28 GMT
There are rumours of infighting within Reform UK. Farage's decision not to stand as a candidate has apparently not gone down very well. It seems Ben Habib in particular, is less than impressed with Farage. Habib comes across as pretty intelligent in my estimation. I listened to him do a pitch to investors for his property group and can confirm he is someone who is something of an expert in finance. Farage on the other hand seems to have had a bit of a toff upbringing. I was close friends and actually lived with a chap who went to his old public school and recognise the similarities. The school basically teaches you how to bullshit your opponents in order to get ahead in life. Habib on the other hand studied Natural Sciences at Cambridge. Out of all the universities in this country, I personally rank Cambridge as number one and by a fair margin too, indeed better than Oxford which I feel is going woke and stupid these days.
So there you go, that's the main different between the two. Farage got to work as a trader at the London Metal Exchange which really does not require any brains at all. It's just a high pressure game of buying and selling very fast. Habib on the other hand started a property group and made a ton of money, so became a Conservative donor. Farage made the bulk of his money being a politician and being paid by the European Parliament. I get it that Habib is the kind of person who is used to dealing with intelligent and sensible businessmen. Farage pretends to be, but I think he sees right through him. This will have just confirmed it.
I like Habib he is a good speaker, he talks a lot of common sense and speaks very eloquently. So does Farage, but unlike Habib, Farage has huge fan base from pro Brexit, anti EU, centre right voters who are disillusioned with this government and they would have voted for him. However, and sadly for Reform UK, Farage has decided to play the long game, and I can see why. You appear to have a low opinion of Farage, but he is a shrewd operator he knows what he's doing and this is my take: Farage knows Reform UK are unlikely to be all that successful during the election, so he decided not to stand as a Reform candidate. He was invited to stand as a Tory candidate and declined because he knows the Tories are likely to lose. Whether Reform or Tory, why would he jump onto what he sees as a sinking ship? He's decided to go to the US and be Trumps warm up man, fair enough. But here's a prediction, Farage will be back. Assuming a Labour win, then after five years of Labour's pro EU, pro migrant, pro net zero, pro gender/woke policies, the country will be screaming out for a centre right Conservative government, and Farage knows it. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we see Farage standing as a Tory candidate in 2029, along with many other centre right Conservatives. I know five years is a long time looking forwards, but it will be here in no time. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 24, 2024 12:34:53 GMT
Sure, his public persona is down to perfection. You have to talk to people who have actually worked for the bastard, like say Gerard Batten to know, and there were many others he screwed over. Unfortunately the man is every bit the dictator he accuses the EU of being. It's just the way of the world. Some of the most credible-sounding people are indeed the meanest of the lot. Conversely some of those who really don't come across well in public are the really clever people who read a lot of books and don't attend too many parties and piss-ups. Another problem with democracy is it takes a really clever person to recognise the genius in someone else, and our country is mostly full of stupid people, hence why the entertainment is so remedial these days. Gerard Batten was the man who told the truth, but people got upset with the truth. Indeed paradoxically this country worked better when the vote was not universal. 'Pre-1832. Counties: From 1429 the right to vote was given to men aged 21 or over, owning freehold lands or tenements with an annual net value of 40s or more.' but the thing was pre 1832 we were one of the richest countries in the world. By 1928 woman got the same vote as men, but by that time our empire was already coming to an end. They want to lower the voting age even further now and give rights to brainwashed children. I have talked to people who worked with Farage including Batten ,they got on OK until Batten as leader of UKIP went down the Islamaphobic route and employed the thug Robinson .Their relationship soured further with the formation of the Brexit party which more or less consigned UKIP to the political graveyard . Farage didn't screw anyone over at UKIP , they did that for themselves . Well so did Lord Pearson. Farage was worried about staying on good terms with organisations like Searchlight, Hope not Hate, the BBC, the Guardian and Sly News. Gerard had a fighting spirit to deal with what the voters wanted, but Farage is some sort of woman worried about her image all the bloody time and does my bum look too big in this.
Yes sure they are going to attack you if you hit the points where they are screwing us. You have to be strong. Now perhaps one can see the true Farage. He's not fighting for us but himself.
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Post by Dogburger on May 24, 2024 20:59:21 GMT
I have talked to people who worked with Farage including Batten ,they got on OK until Batten as leader of UKIP went down the Islamaphobic route and employed the thug Robinson .Their relationship soured further with the formation of the Brexit party which more or less consigned UKIP to the political graveyard . Farage didn't screw anyone over at UKIP , they did that for themselves . Well so did Lord Pearson. Farage was worried about staying on good terms with organisations like Searchlight, Hope not Hate, the BBC, the Guardian and Sly News. Gerard had a fighting spirit to deal with what the voters wanted, but Farage is some sort of woman worried about her image all the bloody time and does my bum look too big in this.
Yes sure they are going to attack you if you hit the points where they are screwing us. You have to be strong. Now perhaps one can see the true Farage. He's not fighting for us but himself.
We don't need Farage to hold our hands ,maybe he is looking to see if the country is up for the fight because fight we are going to have to do when labour get in |
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