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Post by oracle75 on May 9, 2024 19:35:24 GMT
Even European voters want less Europe,’ writes Mark Littlewood
Even the most hardened Remainer must acknowledge one benefit of our exit from the European Union. With elections right across England last Thursday and a general election later this year, we will at least be spared having to go to the polls on June 6 for the EU Parliamentary elections.
The EU will never be rid of national identity in Europe much to its sadness, and ironically breeds far more scepticism than it would like. It could be because it spends tens of millions in regional policy and defends national identity It supports minority languages, festivals, music and dance. And because you dont know what the EU is about. |
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Post by buccaneer on May 10, 2024 7:13:38 GMT
The EU will never be rid of national identity in Europe much to its sadness, and ironically breeds far more scepticism than it would like. It could be because it spends tens of millions in regional policy and defends national identity It supports minority languages, festivals, music and dance. And because you dont know what the EU is about. It doesn't support national identity though. In fact, it supports itself through others' national identity. |
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Post by oracle75 on May 10, 2024 7:30:01 GMT
It never set put to be a nation.
It is an alliance of nations.
You should read about what WW1 did to nations, nationality and sovereignty. Entire nations disappeared and tens of millions of people were stateless because after the fall of the Austro-Hungarian empire, those nations didnt exist anymore.
In addition they were subject to Russian expansionism and totalitarianism.
When the dust settled and the UN recognised international borders, the west learned that strength and prosperity lies in voluntary alliance and not border disputes and contradictory law.
But since you never understood where power in sovereign states vs. the EU, a voluntary alliance , lies, any comment from you comes from your imagination.
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Post by buccaneer on May 10, 2024 7:32:52 GMT
It never set put to be a nation. It is an alliance of nations. You should read about what WW1 did to nations, nationality and sovereignty. Entire nations disappeared and tens of millions of people were stateless because after the fall of the Austro-Hungarian empire, those nations didnt exist anymore. In addition they were subject to Russian expansionism and totalitarianism. When the dust settled and the UN recognised international borders, the west learned that strength and prosperity lies in voluntary alliance and not border disputes and contradictory law. But since you never understood where power in sovereign states vs. the EU, a voluntary alliance , lies, any comment from you comes from your imagination. Well, at least you agree that the EU doesn't support national identity of sovereign nations. From a delusional Euro-fanatic, that's something I suppose. |
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Post by oracle75 on May 10, 2024 8:35:31 GMT
It never set put to be a nation. It is an alliance of nations. You should read about what WW1 did to nations, nationality and sovereignty. Entire nations disappeared and tens of millions of people were stateless because after the fall of the Austro-Hungarian empire, those nations didnt exist anymore. In addition they were subject to Russian expansionism and totalitarianism. When the dust settled and the UN recognised international borders, the west learned that strength and prosperity lies in voluntary alliance and not border disputes and contradictory law. But since you never understood where power in sovereign states vs. the EU, a voluntary alliance , lies, any comment from you comes from your imagination. Well, at least you agree that the EU doesn't support national identity of sovereign nations. From a delusional Euro-fanatic, that's something I suppose. With your level of comprehension plus your ability to discuss points made by the other, you will NEVER understand the purpose and attraction of the EU. I never said the EU does not recognise national sovereignty. Do you REALLY think that 26 nations would give up their sovereignty, having just created it post WW2? They recognise that every nation is treated equally and has a voice, influence and contacts, increases the ease with which they trade not just internally but externally, and can take part in progressive technology they could never afford themselves. They can find work anywhere across Europe and receive specialists easily and under the same terms and rights. I cant discuss this with someone who first, doesnt understand the EU and two, knows nothing about European history. I dont know why you think you are qualified to comment on the EU. You have zero understanding of what are national and which are EU mutually agreed laws and areas of influence. So I wont be bothering with you again since you never bother to discuss my posts. |
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Post by buccaneer on May 10, 2024 9:23:00 GMT
Well, at least you agree that the EU doesn't support national identity of sovereign nations. From a delusional Euro-fanatic, that's something I suppose. With your level of comprehension plus your ability to discuss points made by the other, you will NEVER understand the purpose and attraction of the EU. I never said the EU does not recognise national sovereignty. Do you REALLY think that 26 nations would give up their sovereignty, having just created it post WW2? They recognise that every nation is treated equally and has a voice, influence and contacts, increases the ease with which they trade not just internally but externally, and can take part in progressive technology they could never afford themselves. They can find work anywhere across Europe and receive specialists easily and under the same terms and rights. I cant discuss this with someone who first, doesnt understand the EU and two, knows nothing about European history. I dont know why you think you are qualified to comment on the EU. You have zero understanding of what are national and which are EU mutually agreed laws and areas of influence. So I wont be bothering with you again since you never bother to discuss my posts. You've clearly failed to grasp my point (as usual). The EU doesn't care for national identity, in fact it gets in the way of more EU hegemony. That's the one fundamental sticking point that has prevented this dastardly behemoth becoming a federalised state. Try understanding the point before going off on one. And please, don't bother me again with your posts, mine clearly go over your head. |
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