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Post by sandypine on May 7, 2024 8:54:06 GMT
Starmer seems already to have given in to one demand as regards calling for a ceasefire, the rest will follow in due course no doubt so that he can save face although his humiliation is divinely defined. Qur’an 9:29: “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which has been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are of the People of the Book, until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” Allahu Akbar, as shouted by a Green Councillor does not mean I love everyone, all are equal and peace be with you it means God is greater. This begs the question greater than what and why? It should be treated as a greater threat than Nazism. It's no surprise that the Labour party would instantly give into Islamic demands, though, and I'm surprised Starmer managed to maintain any level of bullshit before hand. Where would you say our moral and ethical duties now lie? What is the correct and adequate response? The first flexing of teh muscles of power came with Rushdie whereby it was openly threatened that he should be killed. This incitement was tolerated by law and we have had the same type of incitement for years whereby the religious duties can be stated but that Muslims in countries must obey the laws of the land within which they reside. This gives 'nutcases' divinely inspired but able to be disowned by the religion the excuse to exercise terror in the name of the religion. We must apply the law without fear or favour and prosecute those who encourage such acts is the only current moral and ethnical response and ignore all cries of racism and/or Islamophobia. The endgame is of course disaster with long term ethnic unrest.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2024 10:36:20 GMT
It should be treated as a greater threat than Nazism. It's no surprise that the Labour party would instantly give into Islamic demands, though, and I'm surprised Starmer managed to maintain any level of bullshit before hand. Where would you say our moral and ethical duties now lie? What is the correct and adequate response? The first flexing of teh muscles of power came with Rushdie whereby it was openly threatened that he should be killed. This incitement was tolerated by law and we have had the same type of incitement for years whereby the religious duties can be stated but that Muslims in countries must obey the laws of the land within which they reside. This gives 'nutcases' divinely inspired but able to be disowned by the religion the excuse to exercise terror in the name of the religion. We must apply the law without fear or favour and prosecute those who encourage such acts is the only current moral and ethnical response and ignore all cries of racism and/or Islamophobia. The endgame is of course disaster with long term ethnic unrest. Every institution has failed the people and only encourages the growth of Islamism and all the corruption and threats that go along with it. Nothing is going to be done about it other than to submit to the demands of these foul people, whilst the corrupt institutions use their powers to oppress the ordinary people who oppose this horrid state of affairs, which is all the state ever does. The state will continue using anarcho-tyranny, especially whilst the people are kept divided and whilst we only have lying corrupt scum in politics.
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Post by buccaneer on May 7, 2024 11:00:58 GMT
A lot of demands from Muslims there, not surprised as Labour have always chased their vote what with its identity politics.
This was always on the cards with this demographic, wait until there's another 4 million of them and see what else they demand.
While mission creep is afoot there's another 18 reasons why not to vote Labour, with the Muslim vote publicly announcing what it finally starts to stands for.
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Post by steppenwolf on May 7, 2024 13:58:48 GMT
Starmer has already given in to the demand to accept the APPG definition of islamophobia as have the Lib Dems. So they've accepted that islamophobia is a form of racism that is hatred of muslims and "muslimness". So they've instantly agreed that Islam is the only religion that can't be criticised.
I wonder how long it will take before people realise that the "New Nazis" are the muslims. The parallels are uncanny yet so few peole can see it. They hate the Jews and want to eliminate them and they want to create a global caliphate. Th only difference is that they want to do it by terrorism and displacement of muslim people across the global rather than by war.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2024 14:59:42 GMT
Starmer has already given in to the demand to accept the APPG definition of islamophobia as have the Lib Dems. So they've accepted that islamophobia is a form of racism that is hatred of muslims and "muslimness". So they've instantly agreed that Islam is the only religion that can't be criticised. I wonder how long it will take before people realise that the "New Nazis" are the muslims. The parallels are uncanny yet so few peole can see it. They hate the Jews and want to eliminate them and they want to create a global caliphate. Th only difference is that they want to do it by terrorism and displacement of muslim people across the global rather than by war. What a disgusting man he really is. Going by how fast he caved to Islamic threats the only logical conclusion is that Labour was going to do it anyway.
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Post by jonksy on May 8, 2024 3:28:51 GMT
Starmer has already given in to the demand to accept the APPG definition of islamophobia as have the Lib Dems. So they've accepted that islamophobia is a form of racism that is hatred of muslims and "muslimness". So they've instantly agreed that Islam is the only religion that can't be criticised. I wonder how long it will take before people realise that the "New Nazis" are the muslims. The parallels are uncanny yet so few peole can see it. They hate the Jews and want to eliminate them and they want to create a global caliphate. Th only difference is that they want to do it by terrorism and displacement of muslim people across the global rather than by war. What a disgusting man he really is. Going by how fast he caved to Islamic threats the only logical conclusion is that Labour was going to do it anyway. I haven't heard a squeak from Starmer about the 18 demands from the BrownishGreenishISIS Party . Has he been on Holliday to Mars or somewhere?
Even more worrying than Mr Ali, the Allahu Akbar-yelling Green, is what he represents: the disturbing return of sectarianism That's why Starmer needs to assure us that he WON'T cave in to the 18 extraordinary demands made by Muslim Vote......
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Post by steppenwolf on May 8, 2024 6:16:38 GMT
What a disgusting man he really is. Going by how fast he caved to Islamic threats the only logical conclusion is that Labour was going to do it anyway. I haven't heard a squeak from Starmer about the 18 demands from the BrownishGreenishISIS Party . Has he been on Holliday to Mars or somewhere?
Even more worrying than Mr Ali, the Allahu Akbar-yelling Green, is what he represents: the disturbing return of sectarianism That's why Starmer needs to assure us that he WON'T cave in to the 18 extraordinary demands made by Muslim Vote......
Starmer and the Lib dems agreed to the APPG definition of islamophobia as soon as the APPG proposed it (some time ago). In fact the Tories were the only party that rejected it - so they got one thing right.
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Post by Orac on May 8, 2024 9:18:31 GMT
The missing position is 'being on our own side'.
We have been told that we aren't really allowed to 'be on our own side' because 'our side' has to include absolutely everyone - and that 'our side' has this requirement uniquely
This amounts to an intellectual (semantic) eradication of our positions and stances. It will stop when we 'wake up and smell the coffee' on this.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2024 10:48:31 GMT
The missing position is 'being on our own side'. We have been told that we aren't really allowed to 'be on our own side' because 'our side' has to include absolutely everyone - and that 'our side' has this requirement uniquely This amounts to an intellectual (semantic) eradication of our positions and stances. It will stop when we 'wake up and smell the coffee' on this. In actuality, we're told we can't have our side, but we are already excluded from the totalitarian oppressors in this establishment and its collection of hordes, which are clearly easy to manipulate. The bad is coming from multiple fronts under one banner and we don't even have a voice for anyone who wakes up to turn to.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2024 11:01:03 GMT
I haven't heard a squeak from Starmer about the 18 demands from the BrownishGreenishISIS Party . Has he been on Holliday to Mars or somewhere?
Even more worrying than Mr Ali, the Allahu Akbar-yelling Green, is what he represents: the disturbing return of sectarianism That's why Starmer needs to assure us that he WON'T cave in to the 18 extraordinary demands made by Muslim Vote......
Starmer and the Lib dems agreed to the APPG definition of islamophobia as soon as the APPG proposed it (some time ago). In fact the Tories were the only party that rejected it - so they got one thing right. It's crazy, we're told Islam makes up ~6% of the population and we're also told that Islamists are a minority of that figure. Yet, Islamists are being elected into positions of power and making demands for blasphemy laws and giving military orders, whilst the establishment takes their demands and orders and implements them.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 8, 2024 11:53:03 GMT
Starmer and the Lib dems agreed to the APPG definition of islamophobia as soon as the APPG proposed it (some time ago). In fact the Tories were the only party that rejected it - so they got one thing right. It's crazy, we're told Islam makes up ~6% of the population and we're also told that Islamists are a minority of that figure. Yet, Islamists are being elected into positions of power and making demands for blasphemy laws and giving military orders, whilst the establishment takes their demands and orders and implements them. It's mad. We have been conditioned to believe it's racist to criticise any minority. And minorities know it.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2024 11:55:53 GMT
It's crazy, we're told Islam makes up ~6% of the population and we're also told that Islamists are a minority of that figure. Yet, Islamists are being elected into positions of power and making demands for blasphemy laws and giving military orders, whilst the establishment takes their demands and orders and implements them. It's mad. We have been conditioned to believe it's racist to criticise any minority. And minorities know it. The Islamist and the Labour party Jew haters are breaking all of these hate laws thanks to two-tier policing.
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Post by jonksy on May 8, 2024 11:56:42 GMT
It's crazy, we're told Islam makes up ~6% of the population and we're also told that Islamists are a minority of that figure. Yet, Islamists are being elected into positions of power and making demands for blasphemy laws and giving military orders, whilst the establishment takes their demands and orders and implements them. It's mad. We have been conditioned to believe it's racist to criticise any minority. And minorities know it. The rabid leftiy woke snowflakes even try and make out that mossies are a race and not a religion FFS...
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Post by sandypine on May 8, 2024 18:52:08 GMT
It's mad. We have been conditioned to believe it's racist to criticise any minority. And minorities know it. The rabid leftiy woke snowflakes even try and make out that mossies are a race and not a religion FFS... Which is why they have to have the definition and have that accepted preferably into law. They bypass the race part by indicating it is rooted in racism and that Muslimness is a kind of race attribute. Yet it is distinctly and unequivocally an ideology based on the belief that it was divinely inspired. The fact that most adherents arise from BAME origins may or may not tell us something about the religion but is is by no means limited by race. Disliking ideology is a perfectly legitimate undertaking just as the left hate fascists which is not a crime, the only problem there is the left define fascists whereas Muslims define themselves.
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Post by sheepy on May 9, 2024 6:12:19 GMT
Seems to me, when we said we just want our country back, they decided rather than the indigenous have it back they would hand it over to foreigners either way it is curtains for them. I might have the last laugh yet. After all there is no ethnic cleansing going on in every city and town in the UK is there?
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