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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 5, 2024 11:31:00 GMT
Baron, ive watched all of the aeroplane accident investigation programmes and they are jaw dropping. They have huge checklists before take off, then if the pilot has a problem that he does not know how to fix, the pilots dig out a huge manual, sometimes that is not enough, then while in the air, the towewr contacts the maufacturer to help solve the problem. On a commercial aeroplane the possibilities of disaster must be uncountable. Even a small short circuit or a wire can cause a plane to crash. Pilots dont trust what the computers tell them and ignore it, because they know that most of the time its bull. The interface between the computer systems of which there must be thousands, god knows how many, and the pilot is fatally flawed. I remember one programme that an unqualified pilot had to take over because the main pilot was ill or whatever, i cant remember why, he crashed the plane killing all, because he could not fly it. He got through to a pilot seat because the airline had a shortage, and he was cheap. When i fly i am in a constant anxiety state, i remember one flight where the pilot turned, nearly tipping the plane onto its back, one passenger commented that doing that wasnt nescessary, your telling me. Boy racers in cars exist in planes too. Being blasted into the sky by rockets is not normal. I think this manual problem is a result of a move away from capitalism. Those two examples I typed out above are typical of the difference. Acoustic Energy is a firm that specialises in high fidelity speakers and their customers are often spending several thousand pounds and are technically literate. It's a small firm who rely on the reputation of their product, so the person who wrote that manual is thinking what would one of our customers most appreciate when they get their new speakers. It's quite obvious really. They pull them out of the box, would like a few handy tips and someone to contact if they have a problem.
The Kingfisher firm is the opposite. It is huge and traded on the stock market. I don't know a great deal about it, but to me it is one where all your pensions are invested into it. It's so big it behaves like a mini state, so that manual employs idiots who don't have a first clue about the product. It's like they have a book of legalities they apply to the product which are general, e.g. the one about use only the accessory(s) produced with the product. It is a general clause they can use in any product. It's about the same as writing a song using a rhyming dictionary.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 6, 2024 4:53:00 GMT
...The UK is becoming a paperwork bloatware zone. It slows us all down... Dunno about the UK - most of such paperwork comes with foreign goods and much of the instruction manual is "Health & safety" bullshit which has to fit every possible regulation in every possible country that the product is sold in. ie Not much to do with the UK.
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 14, 2024 8:51:29 GMT
I flew into Birmingham airport the other day … you only have to look at the design and engineering mess on the ground there to make you fear flying at all …
…. Imagine these scatterbrained people … and their diversity shoe-ins …. sorting out any problem?
We just have the wrong people in charge … deliberately pushing Brexit to fail, the UK to fail … Tory/Labour leadership is rotten at the top … we need to gamble on Reform … and need to remove WOKE spanners in our System. … better professional management training. People working to make Britain independent and successful.
Choosing excellence, promoting excellence … rather that crushing competition.
Managers lost sight of the big picture long ago … the health of the HIVE … rather than selfish greed and nepotism.
I guess we caught the American disease … on so many levels.
Having a rotten poodle crap dumbed-down Media working for foreign interests is the “big fail” for me in this scenario.
…. Fix that … and you are 55% on your way to improving things pretty rapidly, imo.
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Post by Vinny on May 14, 2024 8:55:57 GMT
Brexit hasn't failed, in spite of the huge numbers of remoaners in the civil service and Parliament.
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Post by piglet on May 14, 2024 9:38:45 GMT
Way to go dub.
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Post by oracle75 on May 15, 2024 8:57:48 GMT
Manufacturers have to cover themselves legally. They have to consider every person out there in public.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 15, 2024 9:28:54 GMT
Manufacturers have to cover themselves legally. They have to consider every person out there in public. That's right and it will all go back to some case law that the person successfully sues a firm for a large amount because their instruction manual did not tell the cretin something the cretin's mother should have taught him pre-school. For example a new bed you might purchase would say, after use make sure you stand up straight or you might fall over and tumble down the stairs and break your neck.
We have to ask whose fault is it really, and the answer is the fuckwits in the legal system who become judges. People have become hyper litigious due to fuckwit judges handing out large cash when they shouldn't. This creates demand for the lawyer profession.
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Post by johnofgwent on May 27, 2024 21:59:55 GMT
People don't read instructions because: Kingfisher International products Limited, London W2 distributed by B and Q from their 36 page A5 manual.
People do read manuals because: Acoustic Energy Limited, Gloucestershire distributed by richer Sounds and quoted from a 3 page A5 manual
They are two different British companies. One is run by engineers and the other by idiots and their lawyers.
No.
Men don't read instructions. They press all the buttons and if that doesn't work they give their grandchildren £20 to sort the matter out, but they don't touch the instruction manual.
You should know these things Baron. Are you sure that you are getting enough protein in your diet. ?
Teenage grandchildren seem to charge more if whatever you want drags them away from boyfriends / girlfriends / shopping etc.
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Post by johnofgwent on May 27, 2024 22:06:12 GMT
...The UK is becoming a paperwork bloatware zone. It slows us all down... Dunno about the UK - most of such paperwork comes with foreign goods and much of the instruction manual is "Health & safety" bullshit which has to fit every possible regulation in every possible country that the product is sold in. ie Not much to do with the UK. Significant amounts are there because some lawyer demands it. I'm sure I never microwaved a cat to dry it's fur nor turned a black and decker hot air paint stripper on my scalp. If i'm being honest I bet the stories are urban myth BS BUT Thanks to the yanks and Maggie T we live in litigious times and they demand we publish the said BS stating categorically you should not do this Looking on the bright side having done the risk assessment my former team appear to be allowed to kill six UK army tank personnel a year through sudden violent disassembly of the lithium ion batteries in the stuff they build for such vehicles. So that saves a lot of time and effort.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 28, 2024 9:19:26 GMT
Dunno about the UK - most of such paperwork comes with foreign goods and much of the instruction manual is "Health & safety" bullshit which has to fit every possible regulation in every possible country that the product is sold in. ie Not much to do with the UK. Significant amounts are there because some lawyer demands it. I'm sure I never microwaved a cat to dry it's fur nor turned a black and decker hot air paint stripper on my scalp. If i'm being honest I bet the stories are urban myth BS BUT Thanks to the yanks and Maggie T we live in litigious times and they demand we publish the said BS stating categorically you should not do this Looking on the bright side having done the risk assessment my former team appear to be allowed to kill six UK army tank personnel a year through sudden violent disassembly of the lithium ion batteries in the stuff they build for such vehicles. So that saves a lot of time and effort. I support the guys who have got the manufacturing defects of lithium ion battery cells down to one in a billion. These people work at CATL and practice what they call extreme manufacturing. The place is like a chip factory with clean rooms and all.
It's a shame all the Brits can muster is fucking lawyers.
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Post by johnofgwent on May 28, 2024 9:25:08 GMT
Significant amounts are there because some lawyer demands it. I'm sure I never microwaved a cat to dry it's fur nor turned a black and decker hot air paint stripper on my scalp. If i'm being honest I bet the stories are urban myth BS BUT Thanks to the yanks and Maggie T we live in litigious times and they demand we publish the said BS stating categorically you should not do this Looking on the bright side having done the risk assessment my former team appear to be allowed to kill six UK army tank personnel a year through sudden violent disassembly of the lithium ion batteries in the stuff they build for such vehicles. So that saves a lot of time and effort. I support the guys who have got the manufacturing defects of lithium ion battery cells down to one in a billion. These people work at CATL and practice what they call extreme manufacturing. The place is like a chip factory with clean rooms and all.
It's a shame all the Brits can muster is fucking lawyers.
I think you'll find those were Yank and EU lawyers the Brits had to go along with
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 28, 2024 9:48:17 GMT
I support the guys who have got the manufacturing defects of lithium ion battery cells down to one in a billion. These people work at CATL and practice what they call extreme manufacturing. The place is like a chip factory with clean rooms and all.
It's a shame all the Brits can muster is fucking lawyers.
I think you'll find those were Yank and EU lawyers the Brits had to go along with First of all we have to ask what are standards for in the first place. We seem to get mixed up here. There are two things that we call the same thing (standard). The one type of standard which is economically advantageous is where, to use a classic example, we use the standard gauge for trains. I don't think anyone sane would argue with such a standard, and like a day to day example is in plumbing where our pipes are either 15mm or 22mm. This means competition is increased because now we can buy any plumbing fitting from any manufacturer to add to our existing plumbing and we can be sure it fits.
The other thing they call standards is quality standards. These are economically disadvantageous because quality is subjective. Each application for one of these lithium ion batteries has its own weighting on quality standards. First of all there is no need for them. CATL have already set a standard of their own and sell cells with one in a billion reliability figures. Other manufacturers may not be able to achieve such reliability, but that's OK because a cheapo manufacturer of children's toys is most concerned with cost and really don't care if it is one in a million or one in a billion, but if you were medical device manufacturer you would care a great deal. These thins are best left to the market to decide because they are the experts. Lawyers are the least intelligent when it comes to manufacturing and commerce. They operate by force.
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