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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 20, 2024 5:48:39 GMT
Like you, we're also pro-vaccine, and we've all had what's been advised and prescribed — plus we've also had the benefit of current medical thinking from my mother who has been a nurse for 40+ years. The conspiracy theories and mischief-making about Covid and vaccines prompted me to investigate. The simplest explanation I found — and one all medical people I've talked to about this agree with — is as follows: Most vaccines contain a weakened or dead bacteria or virus. However, scientists have developed a new type of vaccine that uses a molecule called messenger RNA (mRNA) rather than part of an actual bacteria or virus. Messenger RNA is a type of RNA that is necessary for protein production. Once cells finish making a protein, they quickly break down the mRNA. And they're all definite that mRNA from vaccines does not enter the nucleus and does not alter DNA. So we'll continue to do as advised... So how do your experts explain the ‘white clots’ that embalmers/morticians have been finding? … in arteries and veins since 2021 onwards …. That the Lancet strangely failed to highlight ?? … and drop in the MSM? Flash all over the BBC. … protein production that’s not being broken down? … precisely the opposite? |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 20, 2024 5:57:58 GMT
The Lancet is a peer reviewed scientific journal for the medical profession.
Submit scientific evidence for Doctors to study and they will peer review it.
Failure to do so suggests a lack of evidence on your part.
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Post by steppenwolf on Apr 20, 2024 6:38:27 GMT
The Lancet is a peer reviewed scientific journal for the medical profession. Submit scientific evidence for Doctors to study and they will peer review it. Failure to do so suggests a lack of evidence on your part. The Lancet also dismissed the suggestion that the Covid outbreak was caused by a leak of a genetically manipulated virus from the Wuhan Institute of Virology as a "conspiracy theory". As it happened some of the doctors who wrote the Lancet report had connections with the WIV and their illegal research. That was a deliberate attempt at cover up by the Lancet. You need to be careful with these medical journals - the medical profession's first reaction to the sign of a medical cock up is to close ranks and deny everything. |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 20, 2024 7:19:46 GMT
The Lancet is a peer reviewed scientific journal for the medical profession. Submit scientific evidence for Doctors to study and they will peer review it. Failure to do so suggests a lack of evidence on your part. Peer review and publication have developed into a means of controlling the narrative. Trusting science is fine trusting scientists is now becoming as much of an issue as trusting politicians. We have seen several hoaxes that have shown that peer review has serious questions surrounding its efficacy and the 'quality publication' being duped by nonsense. |
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Post by patman post on Apr 20, 2024 9:23:33 GMT
Like you, we're also pro-vaccine, and we've all had what's been advised and prescribed — plus we've also had the benefit of current medical thinking from my mother who has been a nurse for 40+ years. The conspiracy theories and mischief-making about Covid and vaccines prompted me to investigate. The simplest explanation I found — and one all medical people I've talked to about this agree with — is as follows: Most vaccines contain a weakened or dead bacteria or virus. However, scientists have developed a new type of vaccine that uses a molecule called messenger RNA (mRNA) rather than part of an actual bacteria or virus. Messenger RNA is a type of RNA that is necessary for protein production. Once cells finish making a protein, they quickly break down the mRNA. And they're all definite that mRNA from vaccines does not enter the nucleus and does not alter DNA. So we'll continue to do as advised... So how do your experts explain the ‘white clots’ that embalmers/morticians have been finding? … in arteries and veins since 2021 onwards …. That the Lancet strangely failed to highlight ?? … and drop in the MSM? Flash all over the BBC. … protein production that’s not being broken down? … precisely the opposite? The BMJ has published research on this and says evidence shows the syndrome to be very rare with two Covid vaccines. www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/new-study-updates-evidence-on-rare-blood-clotting-condition-after-covid-19-vaccination/There’s nothing in the report that persuades me that risks from vaccines approaches anywhere near the risks of remaining unvaccinated… |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 21, 2024 7:13:34 GMT
Firstly, … Thanks for dropping that link to an interesting study. Here is a link to the study itself: www.bmj.com/content/379/bmj-2022-071594If you read it in detail - from the study worth noting … Research Paper “Accepted 16 September 2022
Abstract
Objective To quantify the comparative risk of thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome or thromboembolic events associated with use of adenovirus based covid-19 vaccines versus mRNA based covid-19 vaccines.
Design International network cohort study.
Setting Routinely collected health data from contributing datasets in France, Germany, the Netherlands, Spain, the UK, and the US.
Participants Adults (age ≥18 years) registered at any contributing database and who received at least one dose of a covid-19 vaccine (ChAdOx1-S (Oxford-AstraZeneca), BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech), mRNA-1273 (Moderna), or Ad26.COV2.S (Janssen/Johnson & Johnson)), from December 2020 to mid-2021.
Main outcome measures Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome or venous or arterial thromboembolic events within the 28 days after covid-19 vaccination. Incidence rate ratios were estimated after propensity scores matching and were calibrated using negative control outcomes. Estimates specific to the database were pooled by use of random effects meta-analyses.
Results Overall, 1 332 719 of 3 829 822 first dose ChAdOx1-S recipients were matched to 2 124 339 of 2 149 679 BNT162b2 recipients from Germany and the UK. Additionally, 762 517 of 772 678 people receiving Ad26.COV2.S were matched to 2 851 976 of 7 606 693 receiving BNT162b2 in Germany, Spain, and the US. All 628 164 Ad26.COV2.S recipients from the US were matched to 2 230 157 of 3 923 371 mRNA-1273 recipients. A total of 862 thrombocytopenia events were observed in the matched first dose ChAdOx1-S recipients from Germany and the UK, and 520 events after a first dose of BNT162b2. Comparing ChAdOx1-S with a first dose of BNT162b2 revealed an increased risk of thrombocytopenia (pooled calibrated incidence rate ratio 1.33 (95% confidence interval 1.18 to 1.50) and calibrated incidence rate difference of 1.18 (0.57 to 1.8) per 1000 person years). Additionally, a pooled calibrated incidence rate ratio of 2.26 (0.93 to 5.52) for venous thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome was seen with Ad26.COV2.S compared with BNT162b2.
Conclusions
In this multinational study, a pooled 30% increased risk of thrombocytopenia after a first dose of the ChAdOx1-S vaccine was observed, as was a trend towards an increased risk of venous thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome after Ad26.COV2.S compared with BNT162b2. Although rare, the observed risks after adenovirus based vaccines should be considered when planning further immunisation campaigns and future vaccine development.”So from the above we can jointly conclude ….. It’s an old study with data only collected between 2020-mid 2021. … so concerns people only vaccinated once …. maximum twice …. and not with the third and subsequent jabs - boosters that made a number of people go wobbly. This study is just a comparison of the effects of two types of vaccine - the adenovirus- based and the mRNA-based vaccines … not an assessment of overall harm from both vaccines. The study only deals with stats of those that had an event within 28 days of vaccination … all possible effects that might have built up in the arteries and veins of patients after 28 days were ignored … or attributed to not having a direct causal link to these vaccines. This study eliminated large numbers of unhealthy people(stats) - arguably a large number of people under 60 living a Western life-style today(?) with a build-up of existing health conditions that could have made them prone to a thrombosis-type event. … yet it still “ pooled 30% increased risk of thrombocytopenia after a first dose of the ChAdOx1-S vaccine was observed, as was a trend towards an increased risk of venous thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome after Ad26.COV2.S compared with BNT162b2. ” Maybe it’s time the experts that control the data published in The Lancet, stopped all mRNA and adenovirus vaccination programmes on precautionary grounds? … got up to speed with the studies going on today (important data coming from embalmers and funeral directors)… stopped filtering out ‘negative data’ that makes the ‘programme look bad’ ( every life is precious - not just an inconvenient stat that they can find excuses to ignore!🤔) |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 21, 2024 7:52:11 GMT
If the WHO and those UK ‘PHE/SAGE experts’ controlling what is published in the Lancet … (that has directly impacted their bank balances these last 3 years) …. can just get up to speed on what is leaking out now from 3 years of observations by these embalmers …. get over their phobia of Youtube … turn on the audio of their Deep State underground bunker PC’s.
… It’s time to SERIOUSLY look at these WHITE CLOTS that explain A HOST of increased symptoms observed statistically in living people since 2021 … and now observed in the dead … after the 1st and many subsequent mRNA jabs had been administered.
…. analysed as fibrous amyloid proteins … mRNA/ adenovirus engineering gone horribly wrong?? …. or dare I suggest plant protein food engineering that might be introducing chemicals in our bodies that are growing protein tissue within our arterial/venous systems ??
I wonder if anyone else has suggested if a combination of these two scientific developments has created a two-pronged ‘attack on humans’ … and their general health.
…If this is what happens when you put corrupt Administrations and ‘Frankenstein mad doctors’ with connections to bio-weapons facilities in charge of General Health Care and Food Production ?? …. maybe Western Trust Hospitals and Supermarkets plugging this stodge …are places to avoid in future??
… and Third World medicine is where a few doctors with integrity still reside??
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Post by Vinny on Apr 21, 2024 7:53:39 GMT
More YouTube shit?
Come on Dub. Scientific peer reviewed papers and reputable sources please.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 21, 2024 8:12:44 GMT
If your data analysis wasn’t 2 years old … and heavily filtered … and had some relevance to current concerns - it might be worth considering. ??🤔
Even so … in an era of acute Administration failures since 9/11 … are you really sure these people working in PHE/SAGE/the Lancet …. or SMERSH … or whatever they jokingly call themselves these days?… whilst remaining hidden in the shadows of our mainstream NHS and Food Administrations that encourage stodge food production, heart disease and NHS-promoted vaping …
….. aren’t really out there secretly working on their next Big Brother genocidal pogrom for Humanity?
[…. Oh, btw … can you tell your Moderators to stop Auto-logging me out of this Forum … at the press of a button …. every time I post a POV they don’t like being aired. - most annoying! ]
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Post by Vinny on Apr 21, 2024 12:17:11 GMT
Maximum tin foil hattery.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 22, 2024 8:54:58 GMT
In another discussion on this Forum … Vinny continues to claim vaccination is safe … and we should pump these drugs into our kids …. He claims this evidence he drops below from The Lancet is a ‘go to’ source for advice on safety. So, … reading your complex study … it says at the very top … Published December 2nd 2021. …. and inside it says in the first paragraphs …. “ FindingsBetween June 1 and June 30, 2021, 3498 people were screened. 2878 participants met eligibility criteria and received COVID-19 vaccine or control. ************* …. So … have you any up-to-date evidence of the vaccine programme?? … Has The Lancet stopped looking for vaccine-damage? … the current evidence being collated by Dr John Campbell etc … talking to Front Line workers and experts … monitoring people’s personal experiences? … Surely if The Lancet is 2 years behind with it’s science and recommendations …. all our children could be vaccinated and heading for the MORTUARY … before these OLD FOSSILS respond to this latest HEALTH CRISIS??…. |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 22, 2024 9:09:15 GMT
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