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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 16, 2024 17:24:54 GMT
A little bit more about this I just listened to.
Katharine Birbalsingh CBE, the headteacher of the school which is at the centre of this court case has asked: How is it right that this family can be awarded £150,000 in legal aid to bring this case in the first place?
And it must be said it's a very fair question. The answer is of course, president Blairs Human Rights Act.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 16, 2024 17:58:51 GMT
A little bit more about this I just listened to. Katharine Birbalsingh CBE, the headteacher of the school which is at the centre of this court case has asked: How is it right that this family can be awarded £150,000 in legal aid to bring this case in the first place? And it must be said it's a very fair question. The answer is of course, president Blairs Human Rights Act. Of which he and his Mrs were of course major beneficiaries. |
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Post by Dogburger on Apr 16, 2024 18:42:49 GMT
A little bit more about this I just listened to. Katharine Birbalsingh CBE, the headteacher of the school which is at the centre of this court case has asked: How is it right that this family can be awarded £150,000 in legal aid to bring this case in the first place? And it must be said it's a very fair question. The answer is of course, president Blairs Human Rights Act. Of which he and his Mrs were of course major beneficiaries. And to think of the uproar from labour over a few face masks |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 16, 2024 19:44:16 GMT
The BBC are pf cpurse eating lemons www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68731366I mentioned elsewhere that I am currently reading Liz Truss' latest memoir www.bitebackpublishing.com/books/ten-years-to-save-the-west having secured an e-copy from my local library. In her first chapter she talks of the surreal situation she found herself in having been the last person to hold a formal audience with Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. The next chapter starts with her time as an Education Minister in David Cameron's government. The problems caused by this parent are a shining example of the problems she describes being confounded over by all levels within the educational establishment I applaud this decision for the same reason it would be upheld without queston in France. This is not a religious school and demands that religious rites be recognised within it destroy its secular nature. If this woman feels that this is an affront to her religion then too fucking bad Every hour of lawyer's time preparing this case will be about one grand and the judge is likely to make the muslim pay the entire bill of both sides. It could easily reach seven figures. |
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Post by patman post on Apr 16, 2024 20:11:38 GMT
Depends how a country applies its secular status. For example, it appears difficult to prosper in public life (among other careers) in the USA without somehow linking to a main reactionary Christian or Jewish phalanx...
As I mentioned up the page, according to some Islamic cleric (Described as a doctor) who was interviewed on GB News earlier, in many 'Islamic' countries Muslim kids do not pray at school. So why on earth should they do it in this non-Islamic country? Does it matter what they do at school in other countries? As many on here keep telling us, this is the UK and we are free to make our own rules… |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 16, 2024 20:28:58 GMT
As I mentioned up the page, according to some Islamic cleric (Described as a doctor) who was interviewed on GB News earlier, in many 'Islamic' countries Muslim kids do not pray at school. So why on earth should they do it in this non-Islamic country? Does it matter what they do at school in other countries? As many on here keep telling us, this is the UK and we are free to make our own rules… Are you being intentionally obtuse? Pat, if Muslim kids in Islamic countries don't pray in school time, why the hell should stroppy Muslim parents demand that a non Islamic school in a non Islamic country should provide their daughter with a prayer room? And more to the point, why the hell do they qualify for £150,000 in legal aid to take this to court? We must be mad, literally mad. |
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Post by patman post on Apr 16, 2024 20:52:48 GMT
Does it matter what they do at school in other countries? As many on here keep telling us, this is the UK and we are free to make our own rules… Are you being intentionally obtuse? Pat, if Muslim kids in Islamic countries don't pray in school time, why the hell should stroppy Muslim parents demand that a non Islamic school in a non Islamic country should provide their daughter with a prayer room? And more to the point, why the hell do they qualify for £150,000 in legal aid to take this to court? We must be mad, literally mad. You seem to want to fight even when I’m agreeing with you. So let me spell out again my opinion that I don’t think the state should fund any religious observances, especially in school. It’s blindingly obvious that religious practice must be counter productive when it led two cults in the same Abrahamic religion to murder each other’s adherents in the UK and fighting the state… |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 16, 2024 20:53:32 GMT
Does it matter what they do at school in other countries? As many on here keep telling us, this is the UK and we are free to make our own rules… Are you being intentionally obtuse? Pat, if Muslim kids in Islamic countries don't pray in school time, why the hell should stroppy Muslim parents demand that a non Islamic school in a non Islamic country should provide their daughter with a prayer room? And more to the point, why the hell do they qualify for £150,000 in legal aid to take this to court? We must be mad, literally mad. Are you saying we the fucking tax payer paid for this brat? This shit can't go on. Can you imagine if one of us wanted to take our school to the High Court? They take the piss. Loads of pisstakers in the government system now, and I dare say a lot are brown. |
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Post by patman post on Apr 16, 2024 21:00:46 GMT
Are you being intentionally obtuse? Pat, if Muslim kids in Islamic countries don't pray in school time, why the hell should stroppy Muslim parents demand that a non Islamic school in a non Islamic country should provide their daughter with a prayer room? And more to the point, why the hell do they qualify for £150,000 in legal aid to take this to court? We must be mad, literally mad. Are you saying we the fucking tax payer paid for this brat? This shit can't go on. Can you imagine if one of us wanted to take our school to the High Court? They take the piss. Loads of pisstakers in the government system now, and I dare say a lot are brown. You seem to be ignoring the fact that the Ottoman Empire has left a lot of White Europeans following Islam… |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 16, 2024 21:11:04 GMT
Are you being intentionally obtuse? Pat, if Muslim kids in Islamic countries don't pray in school time, why the hell should stroppy Muslim parents demand that a non Islamic school in a non Islamic country should provide their daughter with a prayer room? And more to the point, why the hell do they qualify for £150,000 in legal aid to take this to court? We must be mad, literally mad. You seem to want to fight even when I’m agreeing with you. So let me spell out again my opinion that I don’t think the state should fund any religious observances, especially in school. It’s blindingly obvious that religious practice must be counter productive when it led two cults in the same Abrahamic religion to murder each other’s adherents in the UK and fighting the state… I disagree. I went to a C of E school and mumbled my way through the Lords Prayer each morning, as did millions of other kids in this Christian country. I didn't understand it, and we weren't brainwashed with it. Religion meant nothing to us it was unimportant, but it was a tradition in this Christian country. And that's the problem, in the name of diversity which no one asked for, our traditions are becoming less relevant by the day in order to appease minorities who refuse to integrate. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 16, 2024 21:12:37 GMT
Are you saying we the fucking tax payer paid for this brat? This shit can't go on. Can you imagine if one of us wanted to take our school to the High Court? They take the piss. Loads of pisstakers in the government system now, and I dare say a lot are brown. You seem to be ignoring the fact that the Ottoman Empire has left a lot of White Europeans following Islam… I'm glad you mentioned the Ottoman Empire. What are your thoughts on slavery reparations... |
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 16, 2024 21:37:40 GMT
You seem to be ignoring the fact that the Ottoman Empire has left a lot of White Europeans following Islam… I'm glad you mentioned the Ottoman Empire. What are your thoughts on slavery reparations... Funny you should mention that I’m watching Michael Palin wring his hands over tbe Nigerian Slave Trade and Britain’s involvement What he’s failing to put over is the fact the slavers were BLACK www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/my-great-grandfather-the-nigerian-slave-traderInteresting that convicted murderers chose to become slaves instead of being put to death for example |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 16, 2024 22:24:12 GMT
I'm glad you mentioned the Ottoman Empire. What are your thoughts on slavery reparations... Funny you should mention that I’m watching Michael Palin wring his hands over tbe Nigerian Slave Trade and Britain’s involvement What he’s failing to put over is the fact the slavers were BLACK www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/my-great-grandfather-the-nigerian-slave-traderInteresting that convicted murderers chose to become slaves instead of being put to death for example The link looks interesting, I'm not reading it now, but I will read it. |
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Post by patman post on Apr 17, 2024 8:55:34 GMT
You seem to be ignoring the fact that the Ottoman Empire has left a lot of White Europeans following Islam… I'm glad you mentioned the Ottoman Empire. What are your thoughts on slavery reparations... The £20 million allocated to over 40,000 slave owners in 1837 by the British government in compensation for the loss of their slaves is estimated to be worth approx £17 billion today. Some of the compensation was converted into annuities and was still being serviced in 2015.
But I doubt much of that ever found its way to those most affected by slavery.
How does the Ottoman Empire link into this? I referenced it to correct the illusion that Muslims are only non-White...
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 17, 2024 10:53:36 GMT
Current law requires all state-funded schools in England, Wales and Northern Ireland to hold daily acts of ‘Collective Worship’. In England and Wales in schools with no formal religious character this worship must be ‘wholly or mainly of a broadly Christian character’. In Northern Ireland the requirement is for ‘undenominational’ collective worship. Other schools can choose their own regimes. Until the UK disestablishes the Church of England and becomes truly secular, different factions in many areas of daily life will continue to feel wronged and discriminated against… Mr. Contrarian again. The school in question teaches no 'collective worship' at all. Have another go at trying to wind up posters. |
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