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Post by wapentake on Mar 28, 2024 19:24:09 GMT
Yet housing is still built on flood plains that require the water to be drained off before it’s allowed to replenish natural and artificial reservoirs. Doesn’t look like joined up thinking is the strong point of planners. Even so, it’s the sewage and waste treatment that’s today’s problem. Why hasn’t it become a national priority that the current water cos are made to pay for? Diverting the dividends and the bonuses the water cos pay out, into funding clean up schemes for two or three years could go a long way to solving the problem… We need all this work to be done to supply water across the UK to meet demand which is rising all the time due to the size of the population and to manage the increase in effluent as well. It does not cheap its either done by Private Company's with Investors money, or more public money taxpayers money, this problem will not be solved in two or three years its a huge project Investors in Thames Water and pulling some of their money out. ,Thames Water have put in miles and miles of new pipes and sewage pipes in London and still much more to do, and right across the UK , there is no quick fix IMO Thames water looks to going into nationalisation because the shareholders have pulled out. If anything proves some privatisation especially in essential services was a disaster Thames water proves that. essential services should be owned by the people. link |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 28, 2024 19:33:51 GMT
We need all this work to be done to supply water across the UK to meet demand which is rising all the time due to the size of the population and to manage the increase in effluent as well. It does not cheap its either done by Private Company's with Investors money, or more public money taxpayers money, this problem will not be solved in two or three years its a huge project Investors in Thames Water and pulling some of their money out. ,Thames Water have put in miles and miles of new pipes and sewage pipes in London and still much more to do, and right across the UK , there is no quick fix IMO Thames water looks to going into nationalisation because the shareholders have pulled out. If anything proves some privatisation especially in essential services was a disaster Thames water proves that. essential services should be owned by the people. I remember the days it was by lots of different companies, it took weeks to get a burst pipe in the street fixed all they did was patch up the Old Victorian Pipes they should have started to replace them back then |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 28, 2024 19:39:47 GMT
Thames water looks to going into nationalisation because the shareholders have pulled out. If anything proves some privatisation especially in essential services was a disaster Thames water proves that. essential services should be owned by the people. I remember the days it was by lots of different companies, it took weeks to get a burst pipe in the street fixed all they did was patch up the Old Victorian Pipes they should have started to replace them back then Many of the old pipes were lead and a health hazard in themself. |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 28, 2024 19:42:17 GMT
Thames water looks to going into nationalisation because the shareholders have pulled out. If anything proves some privatisation especially in essential services was a disaster Thames water proves that. essential services should be owned by the people. I remember the days it was by lots of different companies, it took weeks to get a burst pipe in the street fixed all they did was patch up the Old Victorian Pipes they should have started to replace them back then Underinvestment in public services,the cure definitely wasn’t privatisation.. I recently reported a burst three weeks later nothing done and the road collapsing in to it. |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 28, 2024 19:51:17 GMT
I remember the days it was by lots of different companies, it took weeks to get a burst pipe in the street fixed all they did was patch up the Old Victorian Pipes they should have started to replace them back then Underinvestment in public services,the cure definitely wasn’t privatisation.. I recently reported a burst three weeks later nothing done and the road collapsing in to it. Often there is no easy answer or solution to many problems , Thames Water fixed a mains burst in my street last year, they were there very quickly had the job done in under 24 hours, I don't yearn for the bad old days, or 18 months wait for a house phone |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 28, 2024 19:51:36 GMT
Underinvestment in public services,the cure definitely wasn’t privatisation.. I recently reported a burst three weeks later nothing done and the road collapsing in to it. Often there is no easy answer or solution to many problems , Thames Water fixed a mains burst in my street last year, they were there very quickly had the job done in under 24 hours, I don't yearn for the bad old days, or 18 months wait for a house phone etc |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 28, 2024 20:11:32 GMT
Often there is no easy answer or solution to many problems , Thames Water fixed a mains burst in my street last year, they were there very quickly had the job done in under 24 hours, I don't yearn for the bad old days, or 18 months wait for a house phone etc Who wants a house phone now? Thames water want to up the bills by 40% that’ll keep the dividends going won’t it,bad old days? what do you think is happening now? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2024 20:34:18 GMT
When we build all these houses we are said to need for our growing population nobody it seems is responsible for increasing the capacity for any of the infrastructure .Be it school places ,GP surgeries or indeed working out how to get more shit down a 4" pipe to the treatment works . Until they sort it out we should stop building and slam the door shut to immigration ,either that or prescribe the nation Imodium I don't think that new estates are so much of a problem. New builds have split sewage and rainwater systems. Older houses have rainwater going into the sewers, which really is madness. Fresh rainwater overwhelms the sewage works. Rainwater must be kept out of the sewers, and the people illegally piping gutters into the sewers need to desist. It's illegal. |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 28, 2024 20:53:44 GMT
When we build all these houses we are said to need for our growing population nobody it seems is responsible for increasing the capacity for any of the infrastructure .Be it school places ,GP surgeries or indeed working out how to get more shit down a 4" pipe to the treatment works . Until they sort it out we should stop building and slam the door shut to immigration ,either that or prescribe the nation Imodium I don't think that new estates are so much of a problem. New builds have split sewage and rainwater systems. Older houses have rainwater going into the sewers, which really is madness. Fresh rainwater overwhelms the sewage works. Rainwater must be kept out of the sewers, and the people illegally piping gutters into the sewers need to desist. It's illegal. Well up here in my part of the north every house I’ve lived in and it’s been a few all the rainwater goes into the sewers so I can’t see it’s illegal,all road water goes in there too. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 28, 2024 21:55:43 GMT
I don't think that new estates are so much of a problem. New builds have split sewage and rainwater systems. Older houses have rainwater going into the sewers, which really is madness. Fresh rainwater overwhelms the sewage works. Rainwater must be kept out of the sewers, and the people illegally piping gutters into the sewers need to desist. It's illegal. Well up here in my part of the north every house I’ve lived in and it’s been a few all the rainwater goes into the sewers so I can’t see it’s illegal,all road water goes in there too. Moden houses have soak-aways for rain water that has been he law for the last 70 years or so.. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 28, 2024 22:48:02 GMT
We need all this work to be done to supply water across the UK to meet demand which is rising all the time due to the size of the population and to manage the increase in effluent as well. It does not cheap its either done by Private Company's with Investors money, or more public money taxpayers money, this problem will not be solved in two or three years its a huge project Investors in Thames Water and pulling some of their money out. ,Thames Water have put in miles and miles of new pipes and sewage pipes in London and still much more to do, and right across the UK , there is no quick fix IMO Thames water looks to going into nationalisation because the shareholders have pulled out. If anything proves some privatisation especially in essential services was a disaster Thames water proves that.
essential services should be owned by the people. linkIt proves nothing of the sort. The privatised companies in England actually perform better than the not-for-profit model in Wales or the Nationalised company in Scotland. Ownership is irrelevant. |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 28, 2024 22:54:59 GMT
Well up here in my part of the north every house I’ve lived in and it’s been a few all the rainwater goes into the sewers so I can’t see it’s illegal,all road water goes in there too. Moden houses have soak-aways for rain water that has been he law for the last 70 years or so.. Well all I can tell you Jonksy is that when we got wed in 79 we bought a new house and the gutter water went in to the drains,I looked around and this is the regs afaik |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 28, 2024 22:57:05 GMT
Thames water looks to going into nationalisation because the shareholders have pulled out. If anything proves some privatisation especially in essential services was a disaster Thames water proves that.
essential services should be owned by the people. linkIt proves nothing of the sort. The privatised companies in England actually perform better than the not-for-profit model in Wales or the Nationalised company in Scotland. Ownership is irrelevant. So all the shite ending up in the rivers and sea is irrelevant? You’re having a laugh (again) |
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Post by Dogburger on Mar 28, 2024 23:22:31 GMT
Well up here in my part of the north every house I’ve lived in and it’s been a few all the rainwater goes into the sewers so I can’t see it’s illegal,all road water goes in there too. Moden houses have soak-aways for rain water that has been he law for the last 70 years or so.. I don't think anything is written in stone on that score . Soakaways are normally asked for where they meet building regs but when you consider they must be 5 meters away from any building and I think 2 meters from a boundary you can see why a lot of modern homes don't have them ,especially in built up areas . It will all depend on what local planning asks for and if there are rainwater sewers available to connect to . But getting rainwater off our properties is only half the problem . Deforestation has increased the likely hood of flooding and again the need to discharge waste quicker than it can be processed . |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 29, 2024 0:04:40 GMT
Moden houses have soak-aways for rain water that has been he law for the last 70 years or so.. I don't think anything is written in stone on that score . Soakaways are normally asked for where they meet building regs but when you consider they must be 5 meters away from any building and I think 2 meters from a boundary you can see why a lot of modern homes don't have them ,especially in built up areas . It will all depend on what local planning asks for and if there are rainwater sewers available to connect to . But getting rainwater off our properties is only half the problem . Deforestation has increased the likely hood of flooding and again the need to discharge waste quicker than it can be processed . We have so much land these days that is either coverd ny concrete or tarmac there is hardly anywhere where water can soak naturly into the ground..The answer doesn't lie in the soil any longer if you can excuse the pun... |
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