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Post by witchfinder on Mar 27, 2024 15:38:57 GMT
Thinking about this question, my own opinion is that the fault lies with The International Community, or perhaps the United Nations as the organisation responsible for solving international problems.
Turkey as a nation bears the brunt of the Middle East refugee problem, been that it borders Syria
The international community could have, and should do more either inside Libya, Syria, Sudan, Ethiopia, Iraq, Yemen and other places plagued by war, famine and humanitarian crisis, OR close to such places, creating Safe Havens, Protected Areas, Refugee Camps and Refuges where people can reside, get help, shelter, food, medical aid and possibly even work.
In reality, if a group of people from Syria are intent on getting to the UK or Germany or wherever, then its likely many will succeed, regardless of who the government is. As much as I do not like the Tory government, I do not believe they can be blamed for boat people arriving here.
Where the government has failed however, is on cutting the budget of the immigration & border force, not having enough staff, and for the very long delays and backlog of proccessing.
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 27, 2024 15:50:09 GMT
Let me tell you something, if I was faced with a choice of walking through some of the more diverse areas of London, or crossing the channel in a Gemini with a 50hp outboard, I'd go for the cruise every time. Would you really thought your Daughter lived in London she must feel safe . Also the million inhabitants of London. My daughter works in London, she used to live in Clapham. She, and her hubby, now live a bit further south. Thank you for your interest. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 27, 2024 15:51:02 GMT
It's several things. Albania is a shithole full of gangsters. Gangsters from Albania can cross the EU unhindered due to Schengen. Our soft politicians put up "refugees" (gangsters and people smuggled by them) in hotels, rather than "refugee camps". Human rights lawyers have made a fortune from defending them. Last time I checked in UK Prisons there are 82,200 Convicts 11% of them are foreigners 1,475 of them are Albanians, Yay diversity. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 27, 2024 15:52:47 GMT
And while I'm here... Why do newsreaders when reporting on the cross channel invasion from France, always refer to the channel crossing as a 'dangerous journey'? Quite clearly it is not dangerous or hundreds of thousands of criminals would not have successfully done it. I suspect it's a damned sight safer than walking around many areas of this country that today, thanks to the cross channel invasion, lefties now describe as wonderfully multicultural and richly diverse. The tally of people crossing the Channel unlawfully via rubber boats so far as of today 4.644 And lets not forget those crossing in the back of lorries, everyone seems to have forgotten about them. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 27, 2024 15:54:11 GMT
I thought that our agreement with Albania included sending our Albanian convicts back to Albania to serve our their remaining sentence there?
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 27, 2024 15:58:34 GMT
I thought that our agreement with Albania included sending our Albanian convicts back to Albania to serve our their remaining sentence there? Well you thought wrong. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 27, 2024 16:42:15 GMT
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Post by Vinny on Mar 27, 2024 16:49:49 GMT
The EU facilitates people smuggling from Albania.
Gangs move across it unhindered.
France funnels them to its northern border to be rid of them and does nothing to justify the funds we give it.
And of course, the EU hates us for voting to leave (and no longer paying the rip off membership fee).
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 27, 2024 17:05:50 GMT
Wind your neck in andrea, we know what is 'supposed' to happen but it's fireside talk, if that happened this government would be throwing it in our faces, pictures of them being deported, giving us factual numbers, it's all 'what we want to hear' mumbo jumbo, and even you have fallen for the Tory bullshit, FFS you really are gullible and naive to the point of utter stupidity. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 27, 2024 17:36:00 GMT
Reality is less stranger than fiction Andy. You have nenever ever posted ANY facts... |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 27, 2024 17:47:49 GMT
200 a day times 7 = 1400 a week 1400 x 4 = 5600 a month So up to now from January, that makes the total so far till the end of March = 16,800 ....... that's more like it. We are being lied to. And how many are coming into the UK hidden in vehicles....We have no clue how many enter the UK daily.. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 27, 2024 17:56:19 GMT
200 a day times 7 = 1400 a week 1400 x 4 = 5600 a month So up to now from January, that makes the total so far till the end of March = 16,800 ....... that's more like it. We are being lied to. And how many are coming into the UK hidden in vehicles....We have no clue how many enter the UK daily.. It's fuckin frightening jonks, fuck knows what's freely wandering the streets of the UK, no man woman or child is safe. |
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Post by patman post on Mar 27, 2024 18:23:20 GMT
200 a day times 7 = 1400 a week 1400 x 4 = 5600 a month So up to now from January, that makes the total so far till the end of March = 16,800 ....... that's more like it. We are being lied to. And how many are coming into the UK hidden in vehicles....We have no clue how many enter the UK daily.. But they’re the UK’s borders (which the UK now has control of) that these immigrants are crossing. Are the Tories that lax in tackling their responsibilities — especially as it’s the main selling point for Brexit and, later, Boris…? |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 27, 2024 18:47:31 GMT
Thinking about this question, my own opinion is that the fault lies with The International Community, or perhaps the United Nations as the organisation responsible for solving international problems. Turkey as a nation bears the brunt of the Middle East refugee problem, been that it borders Syria The international community could have, and should do more either inside Libya, Syria, Sudan, Ethiopia, Iraq, Yemen and other places plagued by war, famine and humanitarian crisis, OR close to such places, creating Safe Havens, Protected Areas, Refugee Camps and Refuges where people can reside, get help, shelter, food, medical aid and possibly even work. In reality, if a group of people from Syria are intent on getting to the UK or Germany or wherever, then its likely many will succeed, regardless of who the government is. As much as I do not like the Tory government, I do not believe they can be blamed for boat people arriving here. Where the government has failed however, is on cutting the budget of the immigration & border force, not having enough staff, and for the very long delays and backlog of proccessing. Well as regards Iraq an illegal war would’ve been better not fought and the Arab spring not promoted by the same idiot. As regards the rest of your post I’d agree to an extent but would qualify by doing nothing whilst claiming action is no excuse nor is not pushing for updated international agreements. |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 27, 2024 19:10:49 GMT
The tally of people crossing the Channel unlawfully via rubber boats so far as of today 4.644 And lets not forget those crossing in the back of lorries, everyone seems to have forgotten about them. I hadn't, and those using forged documents |
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