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Post by Vinny on Mar 25, 2024 12:51:16 GMT
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Post by Handyman on Mar 25, 2024 12:59:17 GMT
Good
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Post by bancroft on Mar 25, 2024 13:10:27 GMT
Very little info on the commercial aspects............
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Post by Vinny on Mar 25, 2024 14:58:07 GMT
Heavy lift capable airship with long loiter capability.
Useful for when a job is not time critical.
Useful for quiet surveillance similar to Police helicopter work.
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Post by bancroft on Mar 25, 2024 16:06:46 GMT
Heavy lift capable airship with long loiter capability. Useful for when a job is not time critical. Useful for quiet surveillance similar to Police helicopter work. Good points though most things are time critical to private enterprise. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 25, 2024 16:31:30 GMT
Heavy lift capable airship with long loiter capability. Useful for when a job is not time critical. Useful for quiet surveillance similar to Police helicopter work. With the best will in the world I cant help thinking we're going backwards. I mean, it's not exactly discreet is it, and with such a small payload and a top speed of 80mph I honestly cant see this airship changing anything. I tend to think this has more to do with net zero virtue signalling than anything else. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 25, 2024 16:43:54 GMT
Well the prototype was extensively tested over several years there's enough commercial interest in it to make it possible. There must already be potential customers lined up.
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 25, 2024 17:45:20 GMT
Well the prototype was extensively tested over several years there's enough commercial interest in it to make it possible. There must already be potential customers lined up. Is there enough commercial interest? Retailers, the auto industry, manufacturing etc they all embrace 'just-in-time' which depends on reliability and speed. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 25, 2024 18:03:54 GMT
I've lost count of the amount of times that companies have started up with the idea that airships are going to make a comeback - and all these years later I'm still waiting...
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 27, 2024 7:57:49 GMT
Well the prototype was extensively tested over several years there's enough commercial interest in it to make it possible. There must already be potential customers lined up. Is there enough commercial interest? Retailers, the auto industry, manufacturing etc they all embrace 'just-in-time' which depends on reliability and speed. As a victim of the 'jit' ideology it is in fact the reliability, rather than the speed, that matters. Meaning that yes, minimising expenditure may mean cutting development / production / delivery times but it is the reliable arrival at the appointed hour and not before, of exactly the number of parts required, plus an extra volume covering the assessment of likely breakages, that matters. It seems to me an airship, like a sailing ship, will be of very limited use in adhering to such rigour when a simple gust of wind in tbe wrong direction might terminally bugger adherence to the delivery timeslot |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 27, 2024 8:19:16 GMT
Is there enough commercial interest? Retailers, the auto industry, manufacturing etc they all embrace 'just-in-time' which depends on reliability and speed. As a victim of the 'jit' ideology it is in fact the reliability, rather than the speed, that matters. Meaning that yes, minimising expenditure may mean cutting development / production / delivery times but it is the reliable arrival at the appointed hour and not before, of exactly the number of parts required, plus an extra volume covering the assessment of likely breakages, that matters. It seems to me an airship, like a sailing ship, will be of very limited use in adhering to such rigour when a simple gust of wind in tbe wrong direction might terminally bugger adherence to the delivery timeslot I have often thought that canals could once more become the highways of commerce, yes 'barges' are slow, but speed is irrelevant as long as deliveries are prompt. Rather than a lorry leaving a hub with a 6 hour JIT envelope, we could have columns of barges slowly wafting down waterways. It would take a bit more planning, but it would still be JIT. As long as the canals weren't frozen I suppose. But hey, with global warming frozen canals are hardly likely, right... |
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Post by bancroft on Mar 27, 2024 13:25:16 GMT
Just got back from the shops and blowing a gale with strong gusts and rain.
How do airships do in weather can they operate in windy weather.
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Post by thescotsman on Mar 27, 2024 14:13:12 GMT
Just got back from the shops and blowing a gale with strong gusts and rain. How do airships do in weather can they operate in windy weather. not very well but then who cares when the local authority and various funding agencies have bet on this being a £1Bn company....it contains the magic words....ultra-low emissions aircraft /sustainable aircraft technology, can you imagine how much government money that'll attract! The figures for this outfit read like a CV from one of those numpties in "The Apprentice" according to HAV the first flight is 2025, 2026 Type Certification and first commercial flight then 2028, production of 24 aircraft per annum with revenues of £1.6Bn. |
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Post by thescotsman on Mar 27, 2024 14:22:00 GMT
I've lost count of the amount of times that companies have started up with the idea that airships are going to make a comeback - and all these years later I'm still waiting... this is all about jumping on the low emissions gravy train - for one thing they're after government money to develop 500Kw electric motor (presumably upscalable to 1MW?) and powertrain in association with ATI, BEIS and Innovate UK et al. Net zero....carbon neutral...got all the buzz words |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 27, 2024 14:26:27 GMT
Just got back from the shops and blowing a gale with strong gusts and rain. How do airships do in weather can they operate in windy weather. A fair point. |
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