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Post by jaydee on Mar 23, 2024 9:41:09 GMT
SCOTLAND’S contribution to Treasury coffers has given England “over 14 billion reasons” to be grateful for its place in the Union, according to a new study. Scotland’s tax contributions have increased by £14.2bn in the last decade, according to tax experts at Rift. Pro-independence parties have said that while the figure shows the “continued strength of the Scottish economy”, Scots have been “left with nothing to show for it”. Researchers contributed the rise to increasing rates of taxation north of the Border, the rising rate of inflation and wage growth.Taxes on income and wealth are up by 40% in the last 10 years, according to Rift – with income tax up 71%, capital gains tax up 70% and corporation tax (excluding North Sea oil) up by 17%. Environmental levies have also fuelled the increase. They are up a whopping 368% in the last decade. Taxes on land and building transactions have increased by 197%.You can add this to the fact that over the last 50 years. Scotland the only nation in the UK to pays way has contributed £222 billion morfe to the UK treasury than it has taken out. That now stands at £236 billion.. Despite this the Westminster wankers squatting in Number 10 have imposed a budget that will impose a cut of £18 billion on Scottish public services. Once again the Scottish government has had to impose council tax freezes. MSP Kenneth Gibson (above), chair of the Scottish Parliament’s Finance Committee, said the figures showed “that winning the argument for independence, and achieving independence, is more urgent and more essential than ever”. He added: “Both Sunak and Starmer have backed a Tory budget and Tory financial rules, which will impose £18bn of cuts to public services and choke off economic growth.o despite a significant increase in Scotland’s annual tax contributions we are left with nothing to show for it – Westminster isn’t working for Scotland.” Fellow committee member Ross Greer, a Scottish Greens MSP, added: “Despite Westminster’s horrific financial mismanagement over the last 14 years, these figures show the continued strength of the Scottish economy.” He said Scotland’s higher rates of income tax were “lifting children out of poverty and providing measures like free university tuition”.Greer added: “So long as most economic powers remain in London, Scotland’s full potential will never be realised though. If we want our country to become all that it can be, independence is the only option.”Kenny MacAskill the Alba Party’s deputy leader, said the figures trashed the “the lie that Scotland is an economic basket case unable to stand on its own two feet”. They proved “beyond doubt that with tax revenues to the UK having increased significantly over the last decade Scotland can more than pay its way as an independent country”, he added “With tax receipts from Scotland bankrolling the UK Treasury and with plans afoot to put in place the transmission infrastructure to cable Scotland’s massive offshore renewable energy resources south of the border it is little wonder the UK wants to hold onto Scotland,” said MacAskill. “It is time for Scotland to take control of our own resources and to use these to build a prosperous economy and fair society with independence.” One more reason why energy rich Scotland can no longer afford the English basket case bankrupt economy. Once again I repeat for the benefit of the little Englander Jock haters who seem to have a problem in correcting anything I say. Then spew bile in response. In terms of the economy. Scotland is the only UK nation to have exported more goods internationally than it has imported every year since records began. In terms of exports per head, Scotland outperforms the UK: Scotland exports £17,455 per head per year, while England exports £8,626 per head per year. Scotland is an exporting powerhouse, whose success has had nothing to do with being part of the UK, but whose future has been jeopardised due to the UK taking Scotland out of the European Union. But heh. Why let facts get in the road. www.thenational.scot/news/24205465.scotland-contributed-14bn-uk-coffers-last-decade/ |
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Post by om15 on Mar 23, 2024 9:46:07 GMT
More fantasy gubbins published by the National, do you really believe this made up nonsense? If Scotland is so wealthy why do it's citizens have no teeth and can't afford salads then?
It is quite astonishing that people are deluded enough to think that this rubbish is anything other than the inventions of con men/women/other that want to continue having their noses in the trough.
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Post by happyjack on Mar 23, 2024 13:45:32 GMT
Don’t you find it a bit odd that The National (and all of the independence-supporting contributors to the article that you have reproduced much of your post above from) fails to point out that, whatever has happened to the scale of Scotland’s tax contribution over the last decade, GERS demonstrates that Scotland ran up a notional fiscal deficit of circa £200 billion over that same period. This means that we enjoyed, on average, £20 billion worth of public services per annum that we would otherwise not have been able to afford were it not for the contribution of English taxpayers.
I wonder why those guys all fail to mention that when they try to grievance-stir and to whip up nationalist sentiment by telling half the story. It’s almost as if they are taking their independence-supporting readership for gullible fools - and it looks like they might be right about that!
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Post by jaydee on Mar 23, 2024 18:54:42 GMT
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Post by jaydee on Mar 23, 2024 18:54:54 GMT
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Post by jaydee on Mar 23, 2024 19:20:13 GMT
Don’t you find it a bit odd that The National (and all of the independence-supporting contributors to the article that you have reproduced much of your post above from) fails to point out that, whatever has happened to the scale of Scotland’s tax contribution over the last decade, GERS demonstrates that Scotland ran up a notional fiscal deficit of circa £200 billion over that same period. This means that we enjoyed, on average, £20 billion worth of public services per annum that we would otherwise not have been able to afford were it not for the contribution of English taxpayers. I wonder why those guys all fail to mention that when they try to grievance-stir and to whip up nationalist sentiment by telling half the story. It’s almost as if they are taking their independence-supporting readership for gullible fools - and it looks like they might be right about that! No what I find odd is you. And your continual statement without any back up. Let me explain it again to you as it just is not getting through. GERS is not a set of accounts showing spending in Scotland. It does not tell us anything about the finances of an independent Scotland (it states that very clearly in the report itself). GERS is the state of Scotland’s finances as part of the UK, even with all of the Scottish massive economic advantages. Its called UNDER PRESENT CONSITIONAL ARRANGEMENT. Take the 8.4% shit out of this or the 8.4% crap out that. Watch England's bankrupt economy shrink by a minimum of around £100 billion. I have already told you about 10 times. The only figure you need to worry about is that Scotland contributed around £90 billion to the UK treasury, try trebling that in reality. Clue. Remove the 8.4% shit. And from that Scotland received around £41 billion back of its own money. And from that the Scottish Government underspent. Is that correct or is that not correct. So instead of waffling your usual shit its wrong. Correct it with your figures. . In terms of the UK. The Scottish government cannot borrow. It cannot create something it cannot do. In the meantime. You ranted the utter havering slastering drivel that bankrupt England pays its way in the UK. Figures please. www.gov.scot/publications/foi-19-02227/In terms of the English debt. It is £2.9 trillion. Covid not included. You know as you ranted bankrupt England pays its way. Yes that really is £2,975,504,900,900 and rising at nearly £6000 per second. Or put it another way that is nearly £48,000 per UK citizen. Thats me. Or to put it another way that is nearly £90,000 per UK tax payer. Thats me. And that from which the Scottish payers pays a £8.4% share of English debt, on that debt the Scots did not need or ask for. Or recieved one penny. And all this crap Scotland get bigger share than England. Is just that. Utter crap. So here is what I am asking you. If you disagree then correct what I have just posted. Go on be a devil and be a first. Then point out to me one benefit, one benefit will suffice. How economically Scotland would be better of being part of the UK. And matey if you are one of those clowns who believe GERs indicate that Scotland was responsible for 60% of the English debt. You really need to go and see someone. That is the drivel you are ranting. The clue. Scotland can no longer afford bankrupt England and being screwed. See OP. And no. You have not corrected it. www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2019/08/21/the-gers-data-is-ludicrous-scotland-does-not-generate-60-of-the-uks-net-fiscal-deficit/ Has it now dawned on you that the Scots are not responsible for one penny of the massive English debt who you rant pays its way in the UK. Or like Mr Stupid are you going to say the UK treasury has it wrong. And just for your info. When this bunch of Westminster English Tory fascist wankers took power in 2010. The English debt was £1.1 trillion and the PSBR was some £40 billion a year. Today and covid not included. That debt is £2.9 trillion as described above and the PSBR is now £131 billion. So not only is the debt 97% of GDP. The deficit is 5.1% of GDP. So if bankrupt England pays its way in the UK. Why does it have such a galactic debt. And has to borrow. The answer matey. Unlike Scotland England cannot live within its means. And has a Government that is clueless on the economy. Look at the disaster of Bojoke and Truss. Billions destroyed and pensions destroyed. . And you matey have about as much idea of the economy of Scotland and GERs. As that pair of Tosspot had of economics. In short Everything has nearly trebled under this bunch of incompetent fascist wankers in Westminster. Or was that to difficult for you to understand as well. Would you care to correct it. Oh I forgot. You use the invisible pages for that. Nice simple explanation on your GERs again. It is still not getting through. Using GERs Excluding London and the south-east, the rest of England has more than twice Scotland’s deficit while Wales and Northern Ireland are even worse, which just shows how much the City of London financial sector siphons off the profits generated in the rest of the UK. Or let me put it likes this. If GERs was used to calculate lets say the Dutch economy. This is how it would work To calculate the Dutch 'deficit' in the way we calculate Scotland's, the first thing you'd do is take about 20 per cent of Dutch public spending – and stop spending it in the Netherlands. Instead you'd send all that money to London so it could be spent there instead.And yes, that would immediately shrink the Dutch economy and its tax revenue at the expense of further boosting economic growth in London. Just as it does with Scotland. Would you care to correct that using a visible page. Who do you think you are trying to kid. Did you go to the same school as Mr Stupid. 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Post by happyjack on Mar 23, 2024 22:40:18 GMT
Relentlessly repeating the same old discredited gobbledegook and misinformation doesn’t make it any less wrong, you know.
The simple point of the matter is that Scotland does not generate enough revenue to provide itself with the level and range of public services that it receives. It is only able to enjoy these services because it is part of the UK, through which it effectively receives a substantial fiscal top up courtesy of English taxpayers. Instead of coming on this English Local Politics forum gloating and trying to wind up English members of this site on the basis of a shoddy and misleading piece of propaganda journalism that you have picked up on in The National, you should be showing some humility and respect.
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Post by jaydee on Mar 24, 2024 10:00:49 GMT
Relentlessly repeating the same old discredited gobbledegook and misinformation doesn’t make it any less wrong, you know. The simple point of the matter is that Scotland does not generate enough revenue to provide itself with the level and range of public services that it receives. It is only able to enjoy these services because it is part of the UK, through which it effectively receives a substantial fiscal top up curtesy of English taxpayers. Instead of coming on this English Local Politics forum gloating and trying to wind up English members of this site on the basis of a shoddy and misleading piece of propaganda journalism that you have picked up on in The National, you should be showing some humility and respect. Stop talking undiluted shite. There were 3.9 million children living in poverty in England in 2022 and getting worse. . That's 27 per cent of children, or eight in a classroom of 30. In Scotland. Funded early learning and childcare is free to parents, but funded by the Scottish Government. You can get up to 1,140 hours of funded early learning and childcare a year (around 30 hours a week in term time) if your child is 3 or 4 years old. Some 2 year olds are also eligible. On top of the National UK payment. Scottish Child Payment is awarded if successful towards the costs of supporting family in poverty. . It's a weekly payment of £25 that you can get for every child who's under 16 years of age. The payment every 4 weeks. It does not cost the English tax payer one penny. Not to mention over the last few years Scotland has had the highest inward investment. Would you care to correct that.Not using your invisible page. This is what England is trying to do as promised by the wanker Bojoke. NHS waiting times. 945,072 people waited more than 12 hours in England A&E departments. That’s 48 times larger than the figure for Scotland 19,667, Not to mention there are more food banks in England than MacDonald's. There are 50 food banks in Brighton alone. www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/adult-social-care-hub/health-and-adult-social-care-directory/brighton-food-bankIn terms of education . The Scots are the most educated people in Europe. Some 52% of Scots have University qualifications. Thats 8% higher than England. Not to mention. Scotland has four University's in the top 100 in the world. That's more per head than any other country in the world. Not to mention University placement is free. Saving some £14,000 a year. What does bankrupt England offer. Despite the shite being spewed on how the SNP destroyed the education system. The Scottish NHS. Healthcare spending in Scotland is £2,368 per person, while in England it is £2,182. Scotland has 76 GPs per 100,000 people, compared to England with 60 per 100,000. The number of patients spending over 12 hours in A&E was 0.2 per cent in Scotland, 2 per cent in England. Scottish nurses are the highest paid in the UK. NHS waiting times. 945,072 people waited more than 12 hours in England A&E departments in 2021-22. That’s 48 times larger than the figure for Scotland 19,667. Scottish nurses average pay is £36,631 in England £33,384. .Now if that is Scotland in a mess. Does not bode well for bankrupt England. . Does it. None of that costs the English tax payer one penny. And since it took power.The Scottish government has underspent every year. The wankers in Westminster have destroyed the economy.By he way not only do I pay for Scottish public services. I pay for the English ones to. The number of potholes filled in by councils in England and Wales has increased during the past year to almost 1.7 million, a survey suggests.The Asphalt Industry Alliance said this figure - up 200,000 from 1.5 million in 2019-20 - equated to one being fixed every 19 seconds. It now works out that £61,700 is needed to be spent for every mile of local road in England and Wales and it would take councils nine years to bring their crumbling networks up to scratch. Not even close to Scotland.As Mr stupid keeps ranting about. That has been updated and the figures ae even worse. But I am not wasted my breath for you to dismiss with the wave of a hand. Bit that is not what I am on about. That is England's problem. I am going to give you only more chance with your clueless pish that bankrupt England pays its way in the UK and Scotland is responsible for 60% of the massive English debt, and does not pay its way in the UK. . That is what you are saying. Nice simple questions. Is the Scottish population some 5.5 million. If yes we agree. Is all income tax raised in Scotland sent to the UK treasury. If yes we are in agreement. If no figures please, and where does it go. In the previous year. Did Scotland under present constitional arrangements contribute around £90 billion to the UK treasury or near enough. If yes we are in agreement. If no.. Figures please. From that contribution. Did Scotland receive back under the block grant some £41 billion of its own money. If yes we are in agreement. If no figures please. Did during that year the Scottish Government underspend. If yes we agree. If no figures please. Would you agree if you take £41 billion from £90 billion that figure is £49 billion. If yes we agree. If no Well what can I say. Now would you agree that £49 billion of Scottish tax payers money is floating around the UK treasure. If yes we agree.; If no where is it. Simple question. I await with bated breath more undiluted waffle and havering slastering drivel.. . By the way Jeremy Hunt has just been on the telly. Everybody in England will be rich next year. Just stick with the wankers, squatting in Number 10. And matey It is the English members who go on the Scottish forum spewing bile. They only succeed in winding themselves up with their stupid idiotic smears and bile. You point to one word in this post or any post from me that is a wind up . But heh why let facts get in the road. www.gov.scot/publications/foi-19-02227/ . |
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Post by om15 on Mar 24, 2024 10:10:25 GMT
If that is your point of view, fine. Don't blame us for pointing out the obvious, you seem to rejoice more about failures in England than successes in Scotland.
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Post by jaydee on Mar 24, 2024 10:29:01 GMT
If that is your point of view, fine. Don't blame us for pointing out the obvious, you seem to rejoice more about failures in England than successes in Scotland. Ah Mr stupid at his stupid best. It is not a point of view. It is a point of fact. And who is the US in all this as you rejoice about the perceived hundreds of failures you post on a daily basis. Each and every one total undiluted Jock hating bollocks. All 100% wrong. Must be in the thousands now. I am still waiting on you to correct the opening post and And I am still waiting on this evidence from you that the former FM stole £600,000. And the incumbent FM paid money to Hamas to get his family out of Gaza. Which is pure and simple idiotic smears and bile. Unless you have another name for it. I am pleased to hear that you now accept the failures as posted, in England. Or would you care to correct what i said |
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Post by happyjack on Mar 24, 2024 10:38:26 GMT
Relentlessly repeating the same old discredited gobbledegook and misinformation doesn’t make it any less wrong, you know. The simple point of the matter is that Scotland does not generate enough revenue to provide itself with the level and range of public services that it receives. It is only able to enjoy these services because it is part of the UK, through which it effectively receives a substantial fiscal top up curtesy of English taxpayers. Instead of coming on this English Local Politics forum gloating and trying to wind up English members of this site on the basis of a shoddy and misleading piece of propaganda journalism that you have picked up on in The National, you should be showing some humility and respect. Stop talking undiluted shite. There were 3.9 million children living in poverty in England in 2022 and getting worse. . That's 27 per cent of children, or eight in a classroom of 30. In Scotland. Funded early learning and childcare is free to parents, but funded by the Scottish Government. You can get up to 1,140 hours of funded early learning and childcare a year (around 30 hours a week in term time) if your child is 3 or 4 years old. Some 2 year olds are also eligible. On top of the National UK payment. Scottish Child Payment is awarded if successful towards the costs of supporting family in poverty. . It's a weekly payment of £25 that you can get for every child who's under 16 years of age. The payment every 4 weeks. It does not cost the English tax payer one penny. Not to mention over the last few years Scotland has had the highest inward investment. Would you care to correct that.Not using your invisible page. This is what England is trying to do as promised by the wanker Bojoke. NHS waiting times. 945,072 people waited more than 12 hours in England A&E departments. That’s 48 times larger than the figure for Scotland 19,667, Not to mention there are more food banks in England than MacDonald's. There are 50 food banks in Brighton alone. www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/adult-social-care-hub/health-and-adult-social-care-directory/brighton-food-bankIn terms of education . The Scots are the most educated people in Europe. Some 52% of Scots have University qualifications. Thats 8% higher than England. Not to mention. Scotland has four University's in the top 100 in the world. That's more per head than any other country in the world. Not to mention University placement is free. Saving some £14,000 a year. What does bankrupt England offer. Despite the shite being spewed on how the SNP destroyed the education system. The Scottish NHS. Healthcare spending in Scotland is £2,368 per person, while in England it is £2,182. Scotland has 76 GPs per 100,000 people, compared to England with 60 per 100,000. The number of patients spending over 12 hours in A&E was 0.2 per cent in Scotland, 2 per cent in England. Scottish nurses are the highest paid in the UK. NHS waiting times. 945,072 people waited more than 12 hours in England A&E departments in 2021-22. That’s 48 times larger than the figure for Scotland 19,667. Scottish nurses average pay is £36,631 in England £33,384. .Now if that is Scotland in a mess. Does not bode well for bankrupt England. . Does it. None of that costs the English tax payer one penny. And since it took power.The Scottish government has underspent every year. The wankers in Westminster have destroyed the economy.By he way not only do I pay for Scottish public services. I pay for the English ones to. The number of potholes filled in by councils in England and Wales has increased during the past year to almost 1.7 million, a survey suggests.The Asphalt Industry Alliance said this figure - up 200,000 from 1.5 million in 2019-20 - equated to one being fixed every 19 seconds. It now works out that £61,700 is needed to be spent for every mile of local road in England and Wales and it would take councils nine years to bring their crumbling networks up to scratch. Not even close to Scotland.As Mr stupid keeps ranting about. That has been updated and the figures ae even worse. But I am not wasted my breath for you to dismiss with the wave of a hand. Bit that is not what I am on about. That is England's problem. I am going to give you only more chance with your clueless pish that bankrupt England pays its way in the UK and Scotland is responsible for 60% of the massive English debt, and does not pay its way in the UK. . That is what you are saying. Nice simple questions. Is the Scottish population some 5.5 million. If yes we agree. Is all income tax raised in Scotland sent to the UK treasury. If yes we are in agreement. If no figures please, and where does it go. In the previous year. Did Scotland under present constitional arrangements contribute around £90 billion to the UK treasury or near enough. If yes we are in agreement. If no.. Figures please. From that contribution. Did Scotland receive back under the block grant some £41 billion of its own money. If yes we are in agreement. If no figures please. Did during that year the Scottish Government underspend. If yes we agree. If no figures please. Would you agree if you take £41 billion from £90 billion that figure is £49 billion. If yes we agree. If no Well what can I say. Now would you agree that £49 billion of Scottish tax payers money is floating around the UK treasure. If yes we agree.; If no where is it. Simple question. I await with bated breath more undiluted waffle and havering slastering drivel.. . By the way Jeremy Hunt has just been on the telly. Everybody in England will be rich next year. Just stick with the wankers, squatting in Number 10. And matey It is the English members who go on the Scottish forum spewing bile. They only succeed in winding themselves up with their stupid idiotic smears and bile. You point to one word in this post or any post from me that is a wind up . But heh why let facts get in the road. www.gov.scot/publications/foi-19-02227/ . The only person talking undiluted shite is you. Whether or not circumstances in England are as you describe above, the plain and undiluted truth, as GERS show us year after year, is that England’s taxpayers prop up Scotland’s public services to the tune of £20-25 billion per annum. Therefore, if things in Scotland are so much better, that is only the case because of England’s taxpayers who are effectively providing us with services and a level of public expenditure that we can’t afford and which they themselves are being denied. It must be very frustrating for them to see their money being spent on us rather than on themselves - and very infuriating when an anti-English bigot comes on here gloating about it. As for that Scot Gov publication that you keep insisting on posting in an attempt to make the false case that ScotGov underspends every year, here’s an extract from within that I presume you haven’t read ( or, knowing what I know about you, refuse to accept because it doesn’t align with your twisted views) i.e. “The Scottish Government manages budgets across more than one year and carries forward some spending into the next year where needed, so any underspends do not reflect a missed opportunity to spend more on public services. Not a penny of the cash variance is handed back to the Treasury, instead it is carried forward through the Scotland Reserve.” BTW - What “invisible page” are you talking about? I gave you a point by point response to your drivel. |
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Post by jaydee on Mar 24, 2024 11:09:45 GMT
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Post by jaydee on Mar 24, 2024 11:12:01 GMT
The only person talking undiluted shite is you. The plain and undiluted truth, as GERS show us year after year, is that England’s taxpayers prop up Scotland’s public services to the tune of £20 x25 billion per annum. As for that Scot Gov publication that you keep insisting on posting in an attempt to make the false case that ScotGov underspends every year, here’s an extract from within that I presume you haven’t read ( or, knowing what I know about you, refuse to accept because it doesn’t align with your twisted views)) i.e. “The Scottish Government manages budgets across more than one year and carries forward some spending into the next year where needed, so any underspends do not reflect a missed opportunity to spend more on public services. Not a penny of the cash variance is handed back to the Treasury, instead it is carried forward through the Scotland Reserve.” Oh dear. Not one bit corrected. We have two on here. Ranting what I said is undiluted shit. But not one correction. Would you care to give a link to where the English tax payer propped up Scotland's public services to the tune of £25 billion. What a load of undiluted fanny. Let me ask you again. . Is the Scottish population some 5.5 million. If yes we agree. Is all income tax raised in Scotland sent to the UK treasury. If yes we are in agreement. If no figures please, and where does it go. In the previous year. Did Scotland under present constitional arrangements contribute around £90 billion to the UK treasury or near enough. If yes we are in agreement. If no.. Figures please. From that contribution. Did Scotland receive back under the block grant some £41 billion of its own money. If yes we are in agreement. If no figures please. Did during that year the Scottish Government underspend. If yes we agree. If no figures please. Would you agree if you take £41 billion from £90 billion that figure is £49 billion. If yes we agree. If no Well what can I say. Now would you agree that £49 billion of Scottish tax payers money is floating around the UK treasure. If yes we agree.; If no where is it. Simple question. I await with bated breath more undiluted waffle and havering slastering drivel.. . By the way Jeremy Hunt has just been on the telly. Everybody in England will be rich next year. Just stick with the wankers, squatting in Number 10. And matey It is the English members who go on the Scottish forum spewing bile. They only succeed in winding themselves up with their stupid idiotic smears and bile. You point to one word in this post or any post from me that is a wind up . But heh why let facts get in the road.
Where did bankrupt England's £25 billion come in. You will be telling me next Englands is the 5th or 6th richest country in the world. And yes I know the Scottish government carries budgets across and spends it the next year. So perhaps you can tell me how that translates to you it did not underspent. And for your info the Scottish Government underspend by £509 million last year which it will carry forward to this year. See link. Or being self appointed economic expert. Is that wrong as well. Everybody wrong but you. Why do you insist on making a total prat of yourself. Scotland gave England as in the OP some £14 billion and if you take £41 billion from £90 billion some £49 billion last year is floating around the UK treasury. As it does every year with varying amounts. . Or are you disagreeing with your own take on GERs. Does it or does it not say that. FFS. By the way. On that £90 billion. Try trebling it. You really do believe Scotland is responsible for 60% of the massive English debt. And matey the £41 billion block grant did not cost the English taxpayer one penny. Let me quote the good Prof. Who you rant you are superior to. And he to is wrong. But you cannot point out where. What GERS is asking us to believe is that with 8.2% of the UK population Scotland created between 54% and 60% of the UK deficit last year, depending on the basis used. And my answer is very simple: no it did not. FFS. It's like talking to a brick wall. www.heraldscotland.com/news/23929511.scottish-government-records-509m-underspend/www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2019/08/21/the-gers-data-is-ludicrous-scotland-does-not-generate-60-of-the-uks-net-fiscal-deficit/I forgot to answer.. . The invisible page is the one where you stated corrected every thing I said. No you did not. Would you care to give links to it. So others can read all your corrections. |
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Post by happyjack on Mar 24, 2024 11:22:44 GMT
Oh dear. Not one bit corrected. We have two on here. Ranting what I said is undiluted shit. But not one correction. Would you care to give a link to where the English tax payer propped up Scotland's public services to the tune of £25 billion. What a load of undiluted fanny. Let me ask you again. . Is the Scottish population some 5.5 million. If yes we agree. Is all income tax raised in Scotland sent to the UK treasury. If yes we are in agreement. If no figures please, and where does it go. In the previous year. Did Scotland under present constitional arrangements contribute around £90 billion to the UK treasury or near enough. If yes we are in agreement. If no.. Figures please. From that contribution. Did Scotland receive back under the block grant some £41 billion of its own money. If yes we are in agreement. If no figures please. Did during that year the Scottish Government underspend. If yes we agree. If no figures please. Would you agree if you take £41 billion from £90 billion that figure is £49 billion. If yes we agree. If no Well what can I say. Now would you agree that £49 billion of Scottish tax payers money is floating around the UK treasure. If yes we agree.; If no where is it. Simple question. I await with bated breath more undiluted waffle and havering slastering drivel.. . By the way Jeremy Hunt has just been on the telly. Everybody in England will be rich next year. Just stick with the wankers, squatting in Number 10. And matey It is the English members who go on the Scottish forum spewing bile. They only succeed in winding themselves up with their stupid idiotic smears and bile. You point to one word in this post or any post from me that is a wind up . But heh why let facts get in the road.
Where did bankrupt England's £25 billion come in. You will be telling me next Englands is the 5th or 6th richest country in the world. And yes I know the Scottish government carries budgets across and spends it the next year. So perhaps you can tell me how that translates to you it did not underspent. And for your info the Scottish Government underspend by £509 million last year which it will carry forward to this year. See link. Or being self appointed economic expert. Is that wrong as well. Everybody wrong but you. Why do you insist on making a total prat of yourself. Scotland gave England as in the OP some £14 billion and if you take £41 billion from £90 billion some £49 billion last year is floating around the UK treasury. As it does every year with varying amounts. . Or are you disagreeing with your own take on GERs. Does it or does it not say that. FFS. By the way. On that £90 billion. Try trebling it. You really do believe Scotland is responsible for 60% of the massive English debt. And matey the £41 billion block grant did not cost the English taxpayer one penny. Let me quote the good Prof. Who you rant you are superior to. And he to is wrong. But you cannot point out where. What GERS is asking us to believe is that with 8.2% of the UK population Scotland created between 54% and 60% of the UK deficit last year, depending on the basis used. And my answer is very simple: no it did not. FFS. It's like talking to a brick wall. www.heraldscotland.com/news/23929511.scottish-government-records-509m-underspend/www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2019/08/21/the-gers-data-is-ludicrous-scotland-does-not-generate-60-of-the-uks-net-fiscal-deficit/I forgot to answer.. . The invisible page is the one where you stated corrected every thing I said. No you did not. Would you care to give links to it. So others can read all your corrections. Just Google GERS reports for the last 15 years or so. That’s all the evidence you need of England propping us up. I told you several times where to look for my reply to your drivel. It is still where I said it was. |
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Post by jaydee on Mar 25, 2024 10:30:32 GMT
Just Google GERS reports for the last 15 years or so. That’s all the evidence you need of England propping us up. I told you several times where to look for my reply to your drivel. It is still where I said it was. I have studied GERs since it became operational. Your clear and distinct problem is you do not have a clue what it is saying. That is why the McCone report was kept secret for 30 years. Hiding the drivel you spew. Over the last 40 years as in the OP Scotland has contributed £222 billion more than it has taken out. Now add that £14 billion as in the OP. That is now £236 billion. Scotland with 8.4% of the Uk population has contributed 9.6% of all UK tax. Let me ask you again. Did GERs stipulate that under present constitional arrangement that last it contributed £90 billion. Did GERs state that £41 billion of Scotland own money was given back to Scotland. And from that. Did the Scottish government underspend. I have no idea why you are in denial of that. I also have absolutely no idea on your drivel that the money underspent. Which is carried forward to the following year, which a bairn with a biscuit arse could work out. T ranslates to you the Scottish Government did not underspend. That is what you said. I have no idea what the hell your problem is. You rant like a Jock hating little Englander. ranting pish spewed by Number 10. The evidence is right before your eyes. Your havering bollocks like Bojoke on speed. Figures from GERs means in plain Englsih some £49 billion of Scotland money is floating around the UK treasury. What chapter of the Emperor's Clothes are you on. www.ogv.energy/news-item/mccrone-report-how-norway-s-oil-fund-works-and-why-it-s-successfulwww.thenational.scot/news/17461406.westminster-doesnt-want-read-mccrone-report-full/Now correct me if I am wrong. In terms of the UK. The Scottish government has no borrowing power. Zilch. Is that correct. Or is that not correct. Or are you going to go of on as tangent and waffle. It is a retained matter. That means Scotland has a zero deficit. It cannot create something it cannot do. Zilch.. And the only nation in the UK to pay its way. The English debt, which is now over over £2.9 trillion and rising at over £6000 pers second. England requires a PSBR of some £130 billion a year. Just to stand still. So how do your work out that bankrupt England pays its way. Going back to the block grant. How nice of the English treasury to praise itself of giving Scotland, ranting a record amount of money. For little Englanders to waffle crap. That is absolute testicvles. It is Scotland's own money. Scotland has 8.4% of the UK population. Analysis from the House of Commons Library suggests that Scotland’s block grant will consist of just 3.5% of UK Government spending in 2023/24 and 2024/25, according to the Autumn Statement plans. You know the purpose of Barnett, which a mechanism used by the Treasury in the United Kingdom to automatically adjust the amounts of public expenditure allocated to Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales to reflect changes in spending levels allocated to public services in England, England and Wales, as appropriate.It also dictates the Scottish Block grant.In short. Scotland screwed again. The Westminster wankers, not only in this, but on defence procurement, think the Scottish population is 3.5% of the UK It is clear to me from the drivel you rant, you do not have a clue how all this is calculated. For your info. In the 10 minutes it has taken me to write this post. Bankrut England's debt has risen by £21,600,000. That's the scale. But heh why let facts get in the road. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/pete-wishart-scotland-government-snp-scottish-government-b2507652.html |
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