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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 24, 2024 17:34:27 GMT
You are losing perspective and as usual, trying to distract, readers on what this thread is all about … NATO’s determination and plans to trigger a nuclear war.
Here are sone realities Europeans must face … as they aggressively sabre-rattle on Russian borders … unprepared to protect their population from nuclear annihilation.
Poke the Russian Bear … and you better not be America’s missile launchpad for retaliation
…. because 😎America and Israel 😎are going to be watching and laughing their heads off from their DUMBS … as Europe and it’s culture once again destroys itself in yet another World War triggered by Anarchic Zionism.(AZ)
Gawd, there are a lot of dumb ignorant poodle f.wits in Whitehall who really cannot see this coming! 🤯🤯Thanks to Sandhurst ‘programming’.
…. It hit their Etonian blindspots.
… and that is annoying. 🤬🤬🤡⚰️☠️
… The Intelligencia of Europe are not happy at all … and neither is HUMANITY WORLDWIDE … as a nuclear winter will destroy the Planet.
If there are any British Soldiers and Navy/Airforce personnel reading this … for the sake of your family’s survival … you need to march on your HQ and stage an intervention … step away from the front ‘en masse’ … and return to defensive duties in the UK.
YOUR PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND … AND THE COUNTRY AND LAWYERS IN THE HAGUE COURT OF HUMAN RIGHTS WILL DEFEND YOU AT ANY COURT MARSHAL … which will prove the NATO LEADERSHIP is the aggressor in this situation, has expansionist ambitions, and is clinically INSANE and unfit to run NATO.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 24, 2024 18:35:28 GMT
Tyranny is not peace. Appeasement is the same as pulling the trigger on innocent civilians yourself.
Ukrainian civilians are being murdered in an illegal invasion and you have sided with the invader.
Change your position.
Invaders out.
Aid the victims.
Putin is a violent bullying dictator who is attacking others unprovoked.
Only his defeat will provide any chance of peace and building bridges with the Russian people who are sick of dictatorship and sham elections.
The Russian Mafia dictatorship needs to be brought down.
Defeat Putin and Russia will kill him.
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Post by ProVeritas on Mar 24, 2024 18:58:22 GMT
Here are sone realities Europeans must face … as they aggressively sabre-rattle on Russian borders … unprepared to protect their population from nuclear annihilation. Poke the Russian Bear … and you better not be America’s missile launchpad for retaliation …. because 😎America and Israel 😎are going to be watching and laughing their heads off from their DUMBS … as Europe and it’s culture once again destroys itself in yet another World War triggered by Anarchic Zionism.(AZ) Gawd, there are a lot of dumb ignorant poodle f.wits in Whitehall who really cannot see this coming! 🤯🤯Thanks to Sandhurst ‘programming’. …. It hit their Etonian blindspots. … and that is annoying. 🤬🤬🤡⚰️☠️ … The Intelligencia of Europe are not happy at all … and neither is HUMANITY WORLDWIDE … as a nuclear winter will destroy the Planet. If there are any British Soldiers and Navy/Airforce personnel reading this … for the sake of your family’s survival … you need to march on your HQ and stage an intervention … step away from the front ‘en masse’ … and return to defensive duties in the UK. YOUR PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND … AND THE COUNTRY AND LAWYERS IN THE HAGUE COURT OF HUMAN RIGHTS WILL DEFEND YOU AT ANY COURT MARSHAL … which will prove the NATO LEADERSHIP is the aggressor in this situation, has expansionist ambitions, and is clinically INSANE and unfit to run NATO. I have never seen such bat-shit crazy, nonsensical ass-hattery in my whole life. And I have seen a lot of crazy shit. All The Best
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Post by Vinny on Mar 24, 2024 19:34:40 GMT
The West tried for 23 years to appease Putin, in that time Russia has done from fledgling democracy back to full blown authoritarian dictatorship.
If there is anything to criticise the West for, it did to little too late and hundreds of thousands of people (mostly innocent people) are dead because of Putin's imperialist violence. We ran down our fuel industries and our militaries and left ourselves vulnerable. We tolerated Russian hitmen murdering people in our countries instead of lashing back and hitting Putin with hard sanctions early and making sure we had our own coal, gas and oil to use instead of Russian imports.
We let the Russian mafia launder money in our countries, interfere in our politics, and threaten our security.
But Dub is not talking about that. He wants us to continue to appease the most corrupt dictatorship on the planet, to throw Ukraine to the dogs and turn our back on hundreds of thousands of people whilst Putin's army murders them.
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Post by ProVeritas on Mar 24, 2024 19:52:05 GMT
The West tried for 23 years to appease Putin, in that time Russia has done from fledgling democracy back to full blown authoritarian dictatorship. If there is anything to criticise the West for, it did to little too late and hundreds of thousands of people (mostly innocent people) are dead because of Putin's imperialist violence. We ran down our fuel industries and our militaries and left ourselves vulnerable. We tolerated Russian hitmen murdering people in our countries instead of lashing back and hitting Putin with hard sanctions early and making sure we had our own coal, gas and oil to use instead of Russian imports. We let the Russian mafia launder money in our countries, interfere in our politics, and threaten our security. But Dub is not talking about that. He wants us to continue to appease the most corrupt dictatorship on the planet, to throw Ukraine to the dogs and turn our back on hundreds of thousands of people whilst Putin's army murders them. We lost any momentum we may have had against Putin, or any real willingness to stand up to him when the EU green-lit the NordStream Project. Putin know then he had us by the balls. He proved it when the entire Westerns world sat back and did sweet fuck-all when he illegally annexed The Crimea. And because we did nothing then he felt emboldened enough to make a move on the rest of Ukraine. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. All The Best
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Post by Vinny on Mar 24, 2024 20:00:43 GMT
Blair was appeasing that man after the Katyr Yurt massacre where the Russian army told everyone there was a safe passage out, and that they wouldn't be bombed. They drove down that safe passage flying white flags and the Russian army bombed them with thermobaric fuel air bombs 4th Feb 2000. 11th March 2000 Blair met Putin, shook hands with him and described the man as a breath of fresh air. The intelligence services must have briefed Blair. And yet appeasement was chosen instead of sanctions. In 2014, after the illegal theft of Donetsk Luhansk and Crimea by Russia, leaders like Merkel, Hollande, Cameron, Harper (former PM of Canada), Obama, spoke of negotiations, peace talks. Fucking disgraceful, we should have armed Ukraine to the teeth then, and hit Russia with huge sanctions then.
Monumental cowardice on the part of the EU, every government in the EU, our government, all the Commonwealth nations and the USA enabled Putin. And now more people are being murdered. Putin already committed genocide in Chechnya, there have been more acts of genocide in Ukraine.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 24, 2024 23:35:18 GMT
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Post by Vinny on Mar 25, 2024 0:38:57 GMT
You're talking rubbish Dubdrifter.
You would have us disarm and face attack all because you've fallen for the lies of Putin, a murderous dictator.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 25, 2024 0:59:39 GMT
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 25, 2024 1:07:40 GMT
Vinny and his American war-mongers will be hiding out in one of these ... www.facebook.com/share/r/nqPDfA3MQVrRAdJw/... like the cowards they are ... while the rest of Humanity fries ... because of their expansionist stupidity.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 25, 2024 1:32:28 GMT
Here are sone realities Europeans must face … as they aggressively sabre-rattle on Russian borders … unprepared to protect their population from nuclear annihilation. Poke the Russian Bear … and you better not be America’s missile launchpad for retaliation …. because 😎America and Israel 😎are going to be watching and laughing their heads off from their DUMBS … as Europe and it’s culture once again destroys itself in yet another World War triggered by Anarchic Zionism.(AZ) Gawd, there are a lot of dumb ignorant poodle f.wits in Whitehall who really cannot see this coming! 🤯🤯Thanks to Sandhurst ‘programming’. …. It hit their Etonian blindspots. … and that is annoying. 🤬🤬🤡⚰️☠️ … The Intelligencia of Europe are not happy at all … and neither is HUMANITY WORLDWIDE … as a nuclear winter will destroy the Planet. If there are any British Soldiers and Navy/Airforce personnel reading this … for the sake of your family’s survival … you need to march on your HQ and stage an intervention … step away from the front ‘en masse’ … and return to defensive duties in the UK. YOUR PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND … AND THE COUNTRY AND LAWYERS IN THE HAGUE COURT OF HUMAN RIGHTS WILL DEFEND YOU AT ANY COURT MARSHAL … which will prove the NATO LEADERSHIP is the aggressor in this situation, has expansionist ambitions, and is clinically INSANE and unfit to run NATO. I have never seen such bat-shit crazy, nonsensical ass-hattery in my whole life. And I have seen a lot of crazy shit. All The Best I think you need to articulate a bit better than that … what you find so troublesome? … Are you interested in saving the Human Species and all life on the Planet? … or pursuing a pointless vendetta with Putin? … over a Country … backed by the EU, that encourages racist discrimination - against Russian-speaking Ukrainians. The EU and NATO hasn’t a leg to stand on … in this respect. Nasty nasty racist people.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 25, 2024 7:06:25 GMT
I have never seen such bat-shit crazy, nonsensical ass-hattery in my whole life. And I have seen a lot of crazy shit. All The Best I think you need to articulate a bit better than that … what you find so troublesome? … Are you interested in saving the Human Species and all life on the Planet? … or pursuing a pointless vendetta with Putin? … over a Country … backed by the EU, that encourages racist discrimination - against Russian-speaking Ukrainians. The EU and NATO hasn’t a leg to stand on … in this respect. Nasty nasty racist people. Probably because you are not getting with the program, it's all for the greater good, greater good. Where actually the line is which says you step over for the greater good is nobody is actually sure. If you wipe out 99% of the planet, I guess it was all for the greater good, greater good.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 25, 2024 7:27:09 GMT
You're the warmonger, Dub, you support the illegal invasion of Ukraine, not us. We support the victims and the liberation of Ukraine and NATO membership for Ukraine so it is never attacked again.
You support tyranny, you support mass murder. You haven't even condemned the Bucha massacre.
You haven't read the books of those Putin has murdered, and you refuse to do so.
You are the warmonger. You are what you pretend to oppose.
Putin is trying to commit genocide in Ukraine and you are denying and defending his crimes.
As you will not read the books of those Putin has murdered, it begs the question, do you work for Putin?
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Post by ProVeritas on Mar 25, 2024 8:32:03 GMT
I have never seen such bat-shit crazy, nonsensical ass-hattery in my whole life. And I have seen a lot of crazy shit. All The Best I think you need to articulate a bit better than that … what you find so troublesome? … Are you interested in saving the Human Species and all life on the Planet? … or pursuing a pointless vendetta with Putin? … over a Country … backed by the EU, that encourages racist discrimination - against Russian-speaking Ukrainians. The EU and NATO hasn’t a leg to stand on … in this respect. Nasty nasty racist people. Oh, I articulated my message just fine thanks. You just don't like it. Anyone wanting to save the Human Species would be entirely opposed to Putin. The leg NATO has to stand on is called the Rule Of International Law - that Putin broke when he annexed The Crimea and then later invaded Ukraine. All The Best
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Post by Vinny on Mar 25, 2024 9:31:33 GMT
All Ukrainians are Russian speakers, just as all the Yanks are English speakers. Them speaking Russian doesn't make them Russian any more than it makes a Yank one of us. There was no justification in invading so much as an inch of Ukrainian soil. The Ukrainians are not Russians. The people of Donetsk and Luhansk and Crimea are Ukrainians, not Russians. All of Ukraine including Donetsk and Luhansk and Crimea voted by more than 50% for independence from Russia. The Budapest Memorandum (which Russia signed) guarantees the sovereignty and independence of Ukraine. treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/Part/volume-3007-I-52241.pdfPutin has been in violation of the treaty for ten years and as he tore up the Kharkiv Pact he has no legal right to station any naval or other military assets in Crimea. Putin is the aggressor. Dubdrifter is supporting war and tyranny, not peace.
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