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Post by see2 on Mar 20, 2024 7:07:46 GMT
This is who you support.
This is not fiction. This is history.
What a load of bull Baron, there is no deep state. Meanwhile there is a dictator in the Kremlin and many of his rivals are dead, others are in prison and the illegal invasions and occupations of sovereign countries drag on. Free Chechnya. Free Ukraine. Free Tibet. And not to be hypocritical, free Gaza, the West Bank and other territories with illegal occupations taking place. Gaza and the West Bank will be free just as soon as the Israelis are allowed to live in peace.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 20, 2024 8:10:57 GMT
Russia wouldn't have dared invade Ukraine if they had retained a strong military and nuclear weapons. This is who you support.
This is not fiction. This is history.
The thing is without an enemy, they are useless, let's see how many times Iran, China and Russia get a mention today. There are a few new bit players rising up as well.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 20, 2024 8:19:10 GMT
Anyway, free Vladimir Kara-Murza, free all the anti war protesters in Russia, free the critics of Putin, execute Putin by firing squad. Blow his legs off with a PTRD-41 and let him bleed to death as a warning to other would be genocidal dictators.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 20, 2024 9:25:31 GMT
What a load of bull Baron, there is no deep state. Meanwhile there is a dictator in the Kremlin and many of his rivals are dead, others are in prison and the illegal invasions and occupations of sovereign countries drag on. Free Chechnya. Free Ukraine. Free Tibet. And not to be hypocritical, free Gaza, the West Bank and other territories with illegal occupations taking place. 😴Ho hum…. 😎Vinny 😎boldly ’playing dumb’(?) ….going thru his tired old ‘CIAgent of Deception and Distraction’ routine? 🙄😴 Interesting that Baron’s video drop mentions (@16 minute) that Bill Colby ,Head of the CIA, admitted the Agency had assassinated over 20,000 people.
… we all know that the Russians and Chinese Agencies have also chalked up an equally obscene number of murders of ‘opponents’ … to further their expansionist ambitions.By trying to educate people about these assassinations … the PEACE MOVEMENTS on both sides … always get attacked. We always get labelled we are taking sides … when we are just concerned about restoring PEACE. … and want a stop to deaths of important whistleblowers like John Lennon and Litvinenko and many many others. ********** For those hazy on NINE bad wars started by ‘false flag’ events … here is a very brief summary including WW2, Vietnam and the Iraq War … with a few Comments at the bottom worth reading. militaryhistorynow.com/2015/07/15/damned-lies-nine-wars-started-under-false-pretexts/
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Post by Orac on Mar 20, 2024 9:27:27 GMT
This is who you support.
This is not fiction. This is history.
The thing is without an enemy, they are useless, let's see how many times Iran, China and Russia get a mention today. There are a few new bit players rising up as well. The further complication is that real enemies do actually exist, so 'ignoring all warnings as fake' is not a cheat code. What you have is a form of abuse, where a real threat is leveraged, by your supposed protectors, to abuse you.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 20, 2024 9:41:15 GMT
The real enemies of civilisation are 1) the FSB, 2) the Russian dictatorship, 3) the Russian military, 4) the intelligence services of China, 5) the dictatorship in China, 6) the Chinese military, 7) the intelligence services of North Korea, 8) the dictatorship in North Korea, 9) the military of North Korea.
And Dubdrifter keeps promoting the propaganda of dictatorships. He advocates tyranny over freedom, war over peace.
And he demonises the Ukrainian people who are defending their country from invasion.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 20, 2024 10:17:15 GMT
False Vinny … here is the stark reality … and the consequence of what you are doing.
This video is a short 4 mins …. this destruction of the World … takes a few minutes longer.
Think about that … war-mongering idiots! …. just for a few seconds.🤬
…. You haven’t the f. RIGHT to do this.
It’s not YOUR World, …. it’s OUR World!
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Post by Vinny on Mar 20, 2024 10:18:58 GMT
No, what you post is false and you're defending tyranny. Get it into your head, the illegal invasion and occupation of Chechnya was a precedent. And now in violation of multiple treaties Putin is doing the same to Ukraine. He wants the whole country. There can be no peace until he stops his attacks. Arm Ukraine to the teeth. Invaders out. There won't be a nuclear war. There'll be regime change in Russia, they'll kill Putin.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 20, 2024 10:44:48 GMT
We all know why NATO/EU/Israeli-Soros expansionists supported terrorist attacks in Ukraine since 2014 when VP Biden and the CIA visited … and subsequent NATO military advisors went in later to further destabilise the region … and prepare for this war.
…. you are not fooling anyone, Vinny … that this is about Sovereignty …. that “bullshit” was exposed years ago.
Grow up … get a works computer that plays audio … and get educated as to the real CIA/MOSSAD/GCHQ/NATO OFFENSIVE Programme going on here.
Meanwhile … stop distracting Humanity from the true consequences that comes from pushing and provoking the Russians and Chinese in their own back yards.
The WEST should concentrate protecting and defending the borders their citizen’s and tax-payers are crying out for them to DEFEND …. Home Defence …. not foreign OFFENCE …. know the difference.
The biggest threats to our safety today are Illlegal immigrant invasion, NATO/Deep State, Globalists/NGO bullying, Religious Factions, Israelis, Drugs, Crime and secret quangos undermining our Democracies.
…… Putin invading Europe ….
…… and China wanting to attack mainland America
…… is really
….. down here 👎👎
….. on our list
….. of REAL possibilities …
👎
……. and priorities …
……keep going
…. Just a little bit further
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👎👎👎
….. here will do for now. 👍
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Post by Vinny on Mar 20, 2024 10:51:22 GMT
NATO is a defence pact and you haven't even read the treaty.
Meanwhile you support a dictatorship which seeks to settle disputes by invasion and bullying and assassination.
You support tyranny.
Tyranny is not peace.
We are not cowards we will not be bullied or allow our allies to be.
Arm Ukraine to the teeth. Invaders out.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 20, 2024 17:56:08 GMT
The thing is without an enemy, they are useless, let's see how many times Iran, China and Russia get a mention today. There are a few new bit players rising up as well. The further complication is that real enemies do actually exist, so 'ignoring all warnings as fake' is not a cheat code. What you have is a form of abuse, where a real threat is leveraged, by your supposed protectors, to abuse you. Look on the Brightside when they are not so busy with their enemies, they tend to concentrate on removing their own populations freedoms.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 20, 2024 19:34:44 GMT
This was Mariupol hospital just after the invaders bombed it. Give me liberty or give me death. No surrender, no surrender, no surrender to invading twts. Arm Ukraine to the teeth. Down with the invasion. Free Ukraine.
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Post by Orac on Mar 21, 2024 6:45:25 GMT
The further complication is that real enemies do actually exist, so 'ignoring all warnings as fake' is not a cheat code. What you have is a form of abuse, where a real threat is leveraged, by your supposed protectors, to abuse you. Look on the Brightside when they are not so busy with their enemies, they tend to concentrate on removing their own populations freedoms. It seems clear to me that they consider their populations (electorates etc) to be their real enemies.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 21, 2024 8:29:51 GMT
See2, just as an intellectual exercise- Who would you consider to be more interested in an escalation in hostilities presently, Russia or the West? Russia without a shadow of doubt. That which is now the Russian Federation began with a Viking invasion of Europe in the 9th century. It then expanded through the centuries into the Russian Empire. Expansion is in their DNA.The people in the now called Russian Federation have used their expansionist traits by using their needs to feel safe as an excuse for expansion, i.e. if we control your territory you will not be in a position to attack us. So you are using events from the 9th century to whip up the idea Russia is always ‘expansionist’? … So you see no concessions in Russia’s/Gorbachev’s handing back the Eastern Block to EU/NATO expansionism? … and protection from a future EU Army. Were you not able to understand the map showing the territory advances of NATO since those concessions?? … Why didn’t NATO create a DMZ? … why is it now risking nuclear war by staging military exercises in Poland and Latvia + newly acquired territories it bullied in Finland and Sweden? … without giving a FREE VOTE …. A NATIONAL REFERENDUM to the Finns or the Swedes? That’s not very democratic, is it … ?? Your ‘tyranny’ never even gave their citizens an open debate where everybody had a chance to stand up and FREELY AIR their opinion. …. H ave you noticed … Putin today seems to do more open debates with his People … than Biden … or Sunak ever does … or anyone in the WEST today … All Administrators are largely protected from answering questions from ordinary people. …. It’s totally unacceptable. Anyway, free Vladimir Kara-Murza, free all the anti war protesters in Russia, free the critics of Putin, execute Putin by firing squad. Blow his legs off with a PTRD-41 and let him bleed to death as a warning to other would be genocidal dictators. So you respect the views of anti-war protesters and dissidents in Russia and China … but you’re happy to shut down Forums here? - and remove anti-war protesters like Provox and Sword??The real enemies of civilisation are 1) the FSB, 2) the Russian dictatorship, 3) the Russian military, 4) the intelligence services of China, 5) the dictatorship in China, 6) the Chinese military, 7) the intelligence services of North Korea, 8) the dictatorship in North Korea, 9) the military of North Korea. And Dubdrifter keeps promoting the propaganda of dictatorships. He advocates tyranny over freedom, war over peace. And he demonises the Ukrainian people who are defending their country from invasion. …. Incorrect … check my posts again. …. but recognise that American Administrations witch-hunt and make moves to lock-up whistle-blowers and dissidents here too ….Snowden, Assange, Manning … and even a UFO-hunter Gary McKinnon faced extradition from Britain and 60 years behind bars for the greatest U.S. military hack of all time! … just because he was interested in Black Ops secrets the Military claim “don’t exist” - real evidence of extra-terrestrials.The reality here is you are supporting a Tyrannical Regime, Vinny and See2 …. THE CIA, Mossad, the Soros Posse and the Pentagon that bullies the Agenda of NATO expansionism and destruction of Russia, China and N. Korea - assisted by it’s kowtowing poodle Allies …. Underneath their veneer … they are just nasty, war-mongering, censorious, vengeful, genocidal, expansionist, greedy and vindictive … Support PEACE NOW. Ditch NATO/EU/$oros Posse Totalitarianism/Expansionism. NATO is a defence pact and you haven't even read the treaty. So when the CIA and VP Biden went into Ukraine in 2014 … and then secretly sent in NATO military advisors to support Azov/Ukraine Army terror attacks on Russian-speaking Ukrainians and those opposed to their ethnic cleansing … acts and terrorism that prompted the Kremlin’s belated ‘intervention’ …. Did that not contravene a number of the Articles of that NATO Defence Pact Treaty?? …. So you don’t think that was an ‘Offensive’ action?? And why did the Pentagon reject the Kremlin’s/Putin’s overtures made to Trump … a wish to join NATO? … and end the Cold War forever?….. now scuttle away Vinny … with your tail between your legs. You know Americans/Israel love war-mongering … and breaking U.N. /NATO Treaties … they love engaging in Human Rights violations Left, Right and Centre. …. enough of your hypocrisy! 🤬 This was Mariupol hospital just after the invaders bombed it. Give me liberty or give me death. No surrender, no surrender, no surrender to invading twts. Arm Ukraine to the teeth. Down with the invasion. Free Ukraine. Did you know the NATO advisors told Azov N*zis and the Ukraine Army to occupy key infrastructure buildings like hospitals, schools and government offices … nuclear plants, dams, bridges and other structures where civilians might hide out …. and offer stiffest resistance … heavy fire … whilst cowardly hiding behind innocent people … and refusing to let them evacuate. The West know how to wage guerrilla war and score ‘propaganda points’ as the Western MSM blindly complies to regurgitating dictated atrocity reports manicured by the MOD and Pentagon. It’s a pity these Offensive Organisations have no sympathy and have turned a blind eye to the current destruction being perpetrated by their BOSS and ALLY, Israel, in Gaza these last 6 months?? NATO and the UN have been notably absent … offering no forced intervention to stop Netanyahu’s genocide. ************
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Post by thescotsman on Mar 21, 2024 8:47:33 GMT
Russia without a shadow of doubt. That which is now the Russian Federation began with a Viking invasion of Europe in the 9th century. It then expanded through the centuries into the Russian Empire. Expansion is in their DNA. The people in the now called Russian Federation have used their expansionist traits by using their needs to feel safe as an excuse for expansion, i.e. if we control your territory you will not be in a position to attack us. So you are using events from the 9th century to whip up the idea Russia is always ‘expansionist’? … So you see no concessions in Russia’s/Gorbachev’s handing back the Eastern Block to EU/NATO expansionism … and protection from a future EU Army. Were you not able to understand the map showing the territory advances of NATO since those concessions?? … Why didn’t NATO create a DMZ … why is it now risking nuclear war by staging military exercises in Poland and Latvia + newly acquired territories it bullied in Finland and Sweden? … without giving a FREE VOTE …. A NATIONAL REFERENDUM to the Finns or the Swedes. Your ‘tyranny’ never even gave their citizens an open debate where everybody had a chance to stand up and FREELY AIR their opinion. …. Putin today seems to do more open debate with his People … than Biden … or Sunak … or anyone in the WEST today … they are largely protected from answering questions from ordinary people. Anyway, free Vladimir Kara-Murza, free all the anti war protesters in Russia, free the critics of Putin, execute Putin by firing squad. Blow his legs off with a PTRD-41 and let him bleed to death as a warning to other would be genocidal dictators. So you respect the views of anti-war protesters and dissidents in Russia and China … but you’re happy to shut down Forums here? - and remove anti-war protesters like Provox and Sword?? The real enemies of civilisation are 1) the FSB, 2) the Russian dictatorship, 3) the Russian military, 4) the intelligence services of China, 5) the dictatorship in China, 6) the Chinese military, 7) the intelligence services of North Korea, 8) the dictatorship in North Korea, 9) the military of North Korea. And Dubdrifter keeps promoting the propaganda of dictatorships. He advocates tyranny over freedom, war over peace. And he demonises the Ukrainian people who are defending their country from invasion. …. Incorrect … check my posts again. …. but recognise that American Administrations witch-hunt and make moves to lock-up whistle-blowers and dissidents here too ….Snowden, Assange, Manning … and even a UFO-hunter Gary McKinnon faced extradition from Britain and 60 years behind bars for the greatest U.S. military hack of all time! … just because he was interested in Black Ops secrets the Military claim “don’t exist” - real evidence of extra-terrestrials. The reality here is you are supporting a Tyrannical Regime, Vinny and See2 …. THE CIA, Mossad, the Soros Posse and the Pentagon that bullies the Agenda of NATO expansionism and destruction of Russia, China and N. Korea - assisted by it’s kowtowing poodle Allies …. Underneath their veneer … they are just nasty, war-mongering, censorious, vengeful, genocidal, expansionist, greedy and vindictive … Support PEACE NOW. Ditch NATO/EU/$oros Posse Totalitarianism/Expansionism. NATO is a defence pact and you haven't even read the treaty. Meanwhile you support a dictatorship which seeks to settle disputes by invasion and bullying and assassination. You support tyranny. Tyranny is not peace. We are not cowards we will not be bullied or allow our allies to be. Arm Ukraine to the teeth. Invaders out. So when the CIA and VP Biden went into Ukraine in 2014 … and then secretly sent in NATO military advisors to support Azov/Ukraine Army terror attacks on Russian-speaking Ukrainians and those opposed to their ethnic cleansing … acts and terrorism that prompted the Kremlin’s belated ‘intervention’ …. Did that not contravene a number of the Articles of that NATO Defence Pact Treaty?? …. So you don’t think that was an ‘Offensive’ action?? ….. now scuttle away Vinny … with your tail between your legs. You know Americans/Israel snowball breaking U.N. /NATO Treaties and engage in Human Rights violations Left, Right and Centre. …. enough of your hypocrisy! 🤬 This was Mariupol hospital just after the invaders bombed it. Give me liberty or give me death. No surrender, no surrender, no surrender to invading twts. Arm Ukraine to the teeth. Down with the invasion. Free Ukraine. Did you know the NATO advisors told Azov N*zis and the Ukraine Army to occupy key infrastructure buildings like hospitals, schools and government offices … nuclear plants, dams, bridges and other structures where civilians might hide out …. and offer stiffest resistance … heavy fire … whilst cowardly hiding behind innocent people … and refusing to let them evacuate. The West know how to wage guerrilla war and score ‘propaganda points’ as the Western MSM blindly complies to regurgitating dictated atrocity reports manicured by the MOD and Pentagon. It’s a pity these Offensive Organisations have no sympathy and have turned a blind eye to the current destruction being perpetrated by their BOSS and ALLY, Israel, in Gaza these last 6 months?? NATO and the UN have been notably absent … offering no forced intervention to stop Netanyahu’s genocide. ************ oy vey....that's exactly what the Government wants you to think.....
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