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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Mar 17, 2024 18:07:29 GMT
When I was seen at my local minor injuries clinic I used a medical term in my first short sentence ... and got "jumped on":
"Do you have a medical degree?"
.. said in a dominant, hostile voice.
I attempted to continue ... but got interrupted after a couple of words by further "hostile verbal".
I said: "If you're going to be like that I'm leaving"
... and picked up my bag, stood up, and took a couple of steps towards the door. Two other staff present moved to stand in my way. When I said:
"You're standing in my way"
I got the (hostile) response:
"We have to protect our staff"
All three came out of the consulting room and "shepherded" me out of the building.
The television in the waiting room was tuned to a Christian religious broadcast ... the "dominant medic" was Muslim.
Ar no time did I raise my voice.
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Post by wapentake on Mar 17, 2024 18:33:43 GMT
When I was seen at my local minor injuries clinic I used a medical term in my first short sentence ... and got "jumped on": "Do you have a medical degree?".. said in a dominant, hostile voice. I attempted to continue ... but got interrupted after a couple of words by further "hostile verbal". I said: "If you're going to be like that I'm leaving" ... and picked up my bag, stood up, and took a couple of steps towards the door. Two other staff present moved to stand in my way. When I said: "You're standing in my way" I got the (hostile) response: "We have to protect our staff" All three came out of the consulting room and "shepherded" me out of the building. The television in the waiting room was tuned to a Christian religious broadcast ... the "dominant medic" was Muslim. Ar no time did I raise my voice. You should’ve replied “have you” after all there are increasing numbers of physician associates which are the equivalent of Blunketts plastic coppers,the law enforcement the nhs and the country is going to the dogs. We need real coppers and real doctors not some half trained cheap alternative. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 17, 2024 19:01:21 GMT
When I was seen at my local minor injuries clinic I used a medical term in my first short sentence ... and got "jumped on": "Do you have a medical degree?".. said in a dominant, hostile voice. I attempted to continue ... but got interrupted after a couple of words by further "hostile verbal". I said: "If you're going to be like that I'm leaving" ... and picked up my bag, stood up, and took a couple of steps towards the door. Two other staff present moved to stand in my way. When I said: "You're standing in my way" I got the (hostile) response: "We have to protect our staff" All three came out of the consulting room and "shepherded" me out of the building. The television in the waiting room was tuned to a Christian religious broadcast ... the "dominant medic" was Muslim. Ar no time did I raise my voice. I would have gone back in myself and had a word with some other staff that were not them. Here's a brilliant trick you can use which works every time. If they want an argument with you they can run into problems if you:
1) develop an audience 2) your audience agrees with you and agaisnt them.
1 can be achieved by starting the argument nearest to the most people who are members of the public + using a voice that does not sound like it is "raised" but as a speaker on a stage is taught to do, you project it outwards. Imagine yourself like Nigel Farage, as per Mr Perfectly reasonable. You can win them all over and get the public looking at the staff with horror.
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Post by Ripley on Mar 17, 2024 20:48:38 GMT
This sounds like a language issue to me. Some in the medical profession seem to think they have a monopoly on Latin and Greek terms, and it throws them when a lay person dares to use their lexicon.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Mar 17, 2024 21:13:58 GMT
When I left the consulting room I didn't expect them to follow me. I had my mobility scooter in the waiting room but I made for the door a few feet away ... which opened to the outside.of the building. I wanted to "Go outside and have a think". "Take you scooter with you!" the medic boomed at me .. with the other two staff at his shoulder The people in the waiting room were sitting with "soothing" Christian singing coming from the television then ...  When I glanced back at them they had "bewildered" looks on their faces |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Mar 17, 2024 21:36:49 GMT
A Professor of Psychiatry who specialises in treating people with Autism/Asperger's wrote a book titled 'The Myth of Autism'. In it he compares the way that people with Autism are treated by some sections of society to how some "pre-war Germans" behaved towards the Jews.
In the "Aspie community" there is a joke ... "We are resident aliens!" ... that's how some people seem to regard us.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 17, 2024 21:49:37 GMT
When I left the consulting room I didn't expect them to follow me. I had my mobility scooter in the waiting room but I made for the door a few feet away ... which opened to the outside.of the building. I wanted to "Go outside and have a think". "Take you scooter with you!" the medic boomed at me .. with the other two staff at his shoulder The people in the waiting room were sitting with "soothing" Christian singing coming from the television then ... When I glanced back at them they had "bewildered" looks on their faces I got similar treatment in a medical pharmacy type shop annexed to the doctor's surgery from a snooty Pakistani, who tried to lie to me and was troubled that I knew he was lying. I tried to make him admit he was lying in front of a crowd of public onlookers. He will remember not to take the piss again. There is a bit of an art to dealing with people like him. |
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Post by borchester on Mar 18, 2024 7:43:33 GMT
It has to be said Senior, the whole business might be seen as something of a complement. You are, I believe, over 80 and thereby sitting in God's antechamber, yet you are still being seen as a local hardcase, the sort of chap not to be trifled with without good cause.
When I go to my local surgery the nurses smile sweetly at me and ignore everything I say, which is fine by me because whatever happens I ain't going to get any younger, but a pretty smile always perks me up  |
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Post by borchester on Mar 18, 2024 7:50:31 GMT
When I left the consulting room I didn't expect them to follow me. I had my mobility scooter in the waiting room but I made for the door a few feet away ... which opened to the outside.of the building. I wanted to "Go outside and have a think". "Take you scooter with you!" the medic boomed at me .. with the other two staff at his shoulder The people in the waiting room were sitting with "soothing" Christian singing coming from the television then ... When I glanced back at them they had "bewildered" looks on their faces I got similar treatment in a medical pharmacy type shop annexed to the doctor's surgery from a snooty Pakistani, who tried to lie to me and was troubled that I knew he was lying. I tried to make him admit he was lying in front of a crowd of public onlookers. He will remember not to take the piss again. There is a bit of an art to dealing with people like him.
Probably not.
If you start shouting the odds in a surgery or pharmacy or any other public place there is always the danger that folk will just think that you are the local loony making a spectacle of himself and they will urge you to move on because they have lives even if you don't.
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 18, 2024 10:28:43 GMT
When I was seen at my local minor injuries clinic I used a medical term in my first short sentence ... and got "jumped on": "Do you have a medical degree?".. said in a dominant, hostile voice. I attempted to continue ... but got interrupted after a couple of words by further "hostile verbal". I said: "If you're going to be like that I'm leaving" ... and picked up my bag, stood up, and took a couple of steps towards the door. Two other staff present moved to stand in my way. When I said: "You're standing in my way" I got the (hostile) response: "We have to protect our staff" All three came out of the consulting room and "shepherded" me out of the building. The television in the waiting room was tuned to a Christian religious broadcast ... the "dominant medic" was Muslim. Ar no time did I raise my voice. See, I've got the ultimate answer to that 'No, but when I was a post graduate research biochemist I was paid to teach medical students. Would you like me to cite what the Hippocratic Oath says that fact confers upon me......' To be fair no one has EVER pulled that line on me and if they did they'd regret it. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 18, 2024 10:34:22 GMT
It has to be said Senior, the whole business might be seen as something of a complement. You are, I believe, over 80 and thereby sitting in God's antechamber, yet you are still being seen as a local hardcase, the sort of chap not to be trifled with without good cause.
When I go to my local surgery the nurses smile sweetly at me and ignore everything I say, which is fine by me because whatever happens I ain't going to get any younger, but a pretty smile always perks me up I'm not quite as well entrenched in the departure lounge (I hope) but I have reached the point where pub security guards say hello as I approach the door like I'm their great uncle, which to be fair given some of them don't look old enough to drink I probably am old enough to be.... |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Mar 18, 2024 13:51:45 GMT
In the 1990s the Open University put a series of videos on the BBC in middle of the the night for people to tape. Actors depicted a variety of patient/medic interactions. Each one began with depictions of medics behaviour that people would recognise as commonplace. The same actors then depicted how the medics SHOULD behave. Other videos detailed the negative effects on the patients' immune systems of the "inappropriate" behaviours.
Since then, for some reason, the "master slave" interaction between NHS medics and patients has become far more prevalent.
The depictions of "how things should be" involved medics being VERY polite.
In some hospitals in America the medics don't know if the patient is paying for their treatment privately, if it's being paid through insurance, or from state funds.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 18, 2024 14:29:16 GMT
I got similar treatment in a medical pharmacy type shop annexed to the doctor's surgery from a snooty Pakistani, who tried to lie to me and was troubled that I knew he was lying. I tried to make him admit he was lying in front of a crowd of public onlookers. He will remember not to take the piss again. There is a bit of an art to dealing with people like him.
Probably not.
If you start shouting the odds in a surgery or pharmacy or any other public place there is always the danger that folk will just think that you are the local loony making a spectacle of himself and they will urge you to move on because they have lives even if you don't.
I don't care what they think. I'm not a local loony, so if they think that they will be wrong, and who knows, they might discover that themselves. Actually I think that was about the last time I had a bad argument with someone. These days I rarely get the piss taken. This is in part due to me avoiding communicating with these underhand types. On occasions I've been the knight in shinning armour who clears the pavements of spam advertising which was blocking the way for the elderly ladies in the electric wheelchairs. So although the bastards might not like me, I get the thumbs up from nicer people often suffering at the hands of the asshole. |
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Post by borchester on Mar 18, 2024 14:55:33 GMT
Probably not.
If you start shouting the odds in a surgery or pharmacy or any other public place there is always the danger that folk will just think that you are the local loony making a spectacle of himself and they will urge you to move on because they have lives even if you don't.
I don't care what they think. I'm not a local loony,.... If you say so Baron |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 18, 2024 14:58:58 GMT
I don't care what they think. I'm not a local loony,.... If you say so Baron Empiricism is my guide. |
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