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Post by Totheleft on Mar 11, 2024 16:32:43 GMT
From the Government prevent site. GOV.UK www.gov.uk › statistics › in... Individuals referred to and supported through the Prevent ... 26 Jan 2023 — Of the 804 Channel cases, the most common were cases referred due to concerns regarding Extreme Right-Wing radicalisation Sounds like there is a problem with the prevent program - it is looking in the wrong direction. So far this century were have had 97 murders by terrorists - 94 of them by Islamic terrorists... So you don't think right wing terror suspectd Don't pose a threat ? The Global Terrorism Index The 2019 Global Terrorism Index has found a 320% increase in far-right Terrorism in the West over the past five years. Nineteen countries across North America, Western Europe and Oceania have been affected and the worrying trend has continued into 2019, with 77 deaths caused by far-right terrorism since the beginning of this year. The rise in far-right attacks has led some observers to state that far-right domestic terrorism has not been taken seriously enough in the West, and that security and intelligence services should be paying closer attention to this threat. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 11, 2024 16:44:41 GMT
The point? Simply that your average Muslim is around twelve times more likely to referred for extremism as your average white person. Is Muslim a race? |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 11, 2024 16:54:20 GMT
The point? Simply that your average Muslim is around twelve times more likely to referred for extremism as your average white person. Is Muslim a race? Stop wriggling FFS HH you know full well that it is a relegeon and not a race.. |
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Post by happyhornet on Mar 11, 2024 17:19:51 GMT
Stop wriggling FFS HH you know full well that it is a relegeon and not a race.. So was it not a bit odd for DD to compare followers of a religion to a race? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 11, 2024 17:41:18 GMT
Not really.
TTL's link referred to referrals for Islamist extremism. Is Muslim not an appropriate proxy term for such a group? Or do you believe that other religious/racial groups could also be involved?
It also mention referrals for right-wing extremism. Do you believe that any other than white people would fall within that category?
I understand you are searching for an opening that might enable some grounds for plausible denial of the overwhelming over-representation of Muslims or Islamists (pick your preferred term) in referrals for Islamist extremism, but such picayune nitpicking is not going to get you there.
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Post by wapentake on Mar 11, 2024 17:43:44 GMT
The point? Simply that your average Muslim is around twelve times more likely to referred for extremism as your average white person. Is Muslim a race? It could be,how about the 1500 mullahs,the 100 mullah daesh.  |
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Post by Hutchyns on Mar 11, 2024 17:52:58 GMT
It could be,how about the 1500 mullahs,the 100 mullah daesh. That's so bad, it's good !  |
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Post by sheepy on Mar 11, 2024 17:55:00 GMT
Not really. TTL's link referred to referrals for Islamist extremism. Is Muslim not an appropriate proxy term for such a group? Or do you believe that other religious/racial groups could also be involved? It also mention referrals for right-wing extremism. Do you believe that any other than white people would fall within that category? I understand you are searching for an opening that might enable some grounds for plausible denial of the overwhelming over-representation of Muslims or Islamists (pick your preferred term) in referrals for Islamist extremism, but such picayune nitpicking is not going to get you there. Well, it is a bit of a contentious subject as it seems the only terrorists in the world are either far right or Muslim, while 163 governments have clamped down on religion and its practices around the world. not a lot of people know that. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 11, 2024 17:55:45 GMT
Stop wriggling FFS HH you know full well that it is a relegeon and not a race.. So was it not a bit odd for DD to compare followers of a religion to a race? Nope...It seems what DD's stated went over your head... |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 11, 2024 17:58:45 GMT
Sounds like there is a problem with the prevent program - it is looking in the wrong direction. So far this century were have had 97 murders by terrorists - 94 of them by Islamic terrorists... So you don't think right wing terror suspectd Don't pose a threat ? The Global Terrorism Index The 2019 Global Terrorism Index has found a 320% increase in far-right Terrorism in the West over the past five years. Nineteen countries across North America, Western Europe and Oceania have been affected and the worrying trend has continued into 2019, with 77 deaths caused by far-right terrorism since the beginning of this year. The rise in far-right attacks has led some observers to state that far-right domestic terrorism has not been taken seriously enough in the West, and that security and intelligence services should be paying closer attention to this threat. 97 murders compared to 3 murders - who do you think is the biggest threat in the UK? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 11, 2024 18:13:04 GMT
So you don't think right wing terror suspectd Don't pose a threat ? The Global Terrorism Index The 2019 Global Terrorism Index has found a 320% increase in far-right Terrorism in the West over the past five years. Nineteen countries across North America, Western Europe and Oceania have been affected and the worrying trend has continued into 2019, with 77 deaths caused by far-right terrorism since the beginning of this year. The rise in far-right attacks has led some observers to state that far-right domestic terrorism has not been taken seriously enough in the West, and that security and intelligence services should be paying closer attention to this threat. 97 murders compared to 3 murders - who do you think is the biggest threat in the UK? My money's on the Joos, the pensioners or the milroonies. |
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Post by morayloon on Mar 12, 2024 1:24:46 GMT
Note the disparty between mossies and jews...Mossies get £117 million Jews £70 million....So the bigger the threat they are the more they will receive...
More than £117 million of taxpayers’ money will be used to protect mosques, Muslim schools and community centres from hate attacks over the next four years. Home Secretary James Cleverly said the money, which will be spent on measures including CCTV cameras, alarms and fencing, would give “reassurance and confidence to UK Muslims”.
The announcement, which follows a £70 million package for Jewish groups, comes in response to concerns that the Israel-Hamas conflict in Gaza is fuelling division in the UK.
We will not let events in the Middle East be used as an excuse to justify abuse against British Muslims
There are about 4million Muslims in the UK compared to approximately 275,000 Jews. Given those figures there are bound to be more Mosques than Synagogues. So, arguably there should have been a lot more money going to safeguard Muslims, their Mosques, schools & churches. |
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 12, 2024 2:34:35 GMT
So you don't think right wing terror suspectd Don't pose a threat ? The Global Terrorism Index The 2019 Global Terrorism Index has found a 320% increase in far-right Terrorism in the West over the past five years. Nineteen countries across North America, Western Europe and Oceania have been affected and the worrying trend has continued into 2019, with 77 deaths caused by far-right terrorism since the beginning of this year. The rise in far-right attacks has led some observers to state that far-right domestic terrorism has not been taken seriously enough in the West, and that security and intelligence services should be paying closer attention to this threat. 97 murders compared to 3 murders - who do you think is the biggest threat in the UK? It's like pulling teeth. |
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