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Post by jonksy on Mar 10, 2024 9:33:05 GMT
It just highlights our two tier system Handy. FFS Robinson was only visiting his own daughter on her birthday he wasn't causing any trouble. The question is where was he? if in London which it appears he was he has breached his conditions full stop his behaviour at the time is immaterial , if anyone knows about Bail conditions its him, no two tier system full stop I am not sure if is even legal to ban a person from London If he were a coloured I bet the civil liberty brigade would be shouting from the rooftops
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Post by wapentake on Mar 10, 2024 9:41:19 GMT
With Handyman on this Robinson presents himself as defending the British way of life,he does nothing of the sort he’s a self publicist who has conned a lot of money from supporters some who could ill afford it.
Imo he’s a fraud and conman and the only thing he cares about is himself ,whilst I understand peoples views about hate preachers he’s just an Anglo Saxon version of them.
As far as the police are concerned they really cannot win in all of this,are there some failings in the police? there certainly are but you need to remember how they got to the position we are in now and it started with that fool Blunkett and his plastic coppers followed by the Tory swathing cuts to numbers.
There are the bad apples in their numbers but for every Wayne Couzens there are many more like Andrew Harper who put their safety on the line for the rest of us,it’s fashionable now to bash the cops but ask yourself would you do their job,take a look on YouTube where tossers make it their life’s work to wind them up,they attend an incident and what happens out come the phones I read recently a cop in a rural area help miles away and he’s trying to free people dying trapped in cars,motorists stop and help? no they got their phones out and started filming.
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 10, 2024 9:46:11 GMT
The left and minority appeasing politicians have very successfully turned Tommy Robinson into a hate figure, much as they did with Enoch Powell. I wonder, if Tommy Robinson were a Muslim hate preacher would the police block the road and stop traffic in order for him to preach in the street? Anyone who thinks we do not have two tier policing must also think the Emperor was finely clothed.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 10, 2024 9:46:17 GMT
With Handyman on this Robinson presents himself as defending the British way of life,he does nothing of the sort he’s a self publicist who has conned a lot of money from supporters some who could ill afford it. Imo he’s a fraud and conman and the only thing he cares about is himself ,whilst I understand peoples views about hate preachers he’s just an Anglo Saxon version of them. As far as the police are concerned they really cannot win in all of this,are there some failings in the police? there certainly are but you need to remember how they got to the position we are in now and it started with that fool Blunkett and his plastic coppers followed by the Tory swathing cuts to numbers. There are the bad apples in their numbers but for every Wayne Couzens there are many more like Andrew Harper who put their safety on the line for the rest of us,it’s fashionable now to bash the cops but ask yourself would you do their job,take a look on YouTube where tossers make it their life’s work to wind them up,they attend an incident and what happens out come the phones I read recently a cop in a rural area help miles away and he’s trying to free people dying trapped in cars,motorists stop and help? no they got their phones out and started filming. I don't support Robinson but there is definitely a two-tier system being used by the police.
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 10, 2024 9:52:57 GMT
It just highlights our two tier system Handy. FFS Robinson was only visiting his own daughter on her birthday he wasn't causing any trouble. The question is where was he? if in London which it appears he was he has breached his conditions full stop his behaviour at the time is immaterial , if anyone knows about Bail conditions its him, no two tier system full stop He should have been banned from protests not from the city of London. Seems extreme. At best he's a protestor at worst he's a thug, certainly no suicide bomber.
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Post by wapentake on Mar 10, 2024 9:59:18 GMT
With Handyman on this Robinson presents himself as defending the British way of life,he does nothing of the sort he’s a self publicist who has conned a lot of money from supporters some who could ill afford it. Imo he’s a fraud and conman and the only thing he cares about is himself ,whilst I understand peoples views about hate preachers he’s just an Anglo Saxon version of them. As far as the police are concerned they really cannot win in all of this,are there some failings in the police? there certainly are but you need to remember how they got to the position we are in now and it started with that fool Blunkett and his plastic coppers followed by the Tory swathing cuts to numbers. There are the bad apples in their numbers but for every Wayne Couzens there are many more like Andrew Harper who put their safety on the line for the rest of us,it’s fashionable now to bash the cops but ask yourself would you do their job,take a look on YouTube where tossers make it their life’s work to wind them up,they attend an incident and what happens out come the phones I read recently a cop in a rural area help miles away and he’s trying to free people dying trapped in cars,motorists stop and help? no they got their phones out and started filming. I don't support Robinson but there is definitely a two-tier system being used by the police. Yeah but we are where we are because of the politicians,take a look at things like custody officers accredited security officers and so many are connected to G4S and ask yourself who was a top director at that company and who he was married to,Mayhem former pm and Home Secretary this all goes back as I said to trying to do it on the cheap by idiot Blunkett and what followed was doing it even cheaper whilst our political masters filled their pockets.
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Post by Handyman on Mar 10, 2024 10:05:36 GMT
The question is where was he? if in London which it appears he was he has breached his conditions full stop his behaviour at the time is immaterial , if anyone knows about Bail conditions its him, no two tier system full stop I am not sure if is even legal to ban a person from London If he were a coloured I bet the civil liberty brigade would be shouting from the rooftops The Magistrates Judges know perfectly well what they can and cannot do, yes they can and do ban people from entering certain locations not to go within so many miles of an address not to contact certain people, report to a Police Station on certain days, as I have stated they have the authority to do so, people can apply to a higher Court to remove them
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Post by jonksy on Mar 10, 2024 10:10:09 GMT
I am not sure if is even legal to ban a person from London If he were a coloured I bet the civil liberty brigade would be shouting from the rooftops The Magistrates Judges know perfectly well what they can and cannot do, yes they can and do ban people from entering certain locations not to go within so many miles of an address not to contact certain people, report to a Police Station on certain days, as I have stated they have the authority to do so, people can apply to a higher Court to remove them I am fully aware that people can be banned from some areas in a distance chosen by magistrates but to ban a person from the whole of London is nothing more than shear extremism.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 10, 2024 10:22:23 GMT
The Magistrates Judges know perfectly well what they can and cannot do, yes they can and do ban people from entering certain locations not to go within so many miles of an address not to contact certain people, report to a Police Station on certain days, as I have stated they have the authority to do so, people can apply to a higher Court to remove them I am fully aware that people can be banned from some areas in a distance chosen by magistrates but to ban a person from the whole of London is nothing more than shear extremism. So, no argument really then, you just feel it was a bit harsh. Which just means you let personal feelings get in the way.
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Post by Handyman on Mar 10, 2024 10:25:45 GMT
The left and minority appeasing politicians have very successfully turned Tommy Robinson into a hate figure, much as they did with Enoch Powell. I wonder, if Tommy Robinson were a Muslim hate preacher would the police block the road and stop traffic in order for him to preach in the street? Anyone who thinks we do not have two tier policing must also think the Emperor was finely clothed. I remember seeing that twat on a number of occasions which I personally found disgusting and to me unacceptable, however the Police are obliged to facilitate Peaceful Protest as is our right to do so, the huge Protests we see in London most weekends are peaceful and comply with the Police instructions on route and time they finish, so far the Met have only arrested 36 people so far. When it comes to Stop Oil etc they have arrested hundreds
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Post by Hutchyns on Mar 10, 2024 10:30:59 GMT
I might be wide of the mark, but given that Robinson is a Luton lad, then from the short video segment showing the group of lads walking down the pavement opposite and the mounted Policeman, could it be that Robinson was in the process of attending yesterday's Crystal Palace v Luton game in South London ? Not my idea of a Birthday treat ... but if the daughter is a Hatters fan she'll have enjoyed the 96th minute equaliser ..... that is unless Tommy had all the tickets in his pocket when he was carted off
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Post by Handyman on Mar 10, 2024 10:40:27 GMT
The Magistrates Judges know perfectly well what they can and cannot do, yes they can and do ban people from entering certain locations not to go within so many miles of an address not to contact certain people, report to a Police Station on certain days, as I have stated they have the authority to do so, people can apply to a higher Court to remove them I am fully aware that people can be banned from some areas in a distance chosen by magistrates but to ban a person from the whole of London is nothing more than shear extremism. To every action there is often a reaction, Robinson encouraged a drunken rabble mainly ageing Football Hooligans and probably EDL members which he created to come to defend the Cenotaph , which resulted in the Police being attacked some badly injured, Robinson legged it . Later when a mainly Jewish Protest was gathering he was asked to leave the area as Police had put in force an exclusion zone, he refused hence he was arrested again, all he had to do was do as he was asked. That is why he was banned from entering any part of London to avoid anymore problems from him, once his trial is over that will be removed
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Post by Handyman on Mar 10, 2024 10:41:43 GMT
I might be wide of the mark, but given that Robinson is a Luton lad, then from the short video segment showing the group of lads walking down the pavement opposite and the mounted Policeman, could it be that Robinson was in the process of attending yesterday's Crystal Palace v Luton game in South London ? Not my idea of a Birthday treat ... but if the daughter is a Hatters fan she'll have enjoyed the 96th minute equaliser ..... that is unless Tommy had all the tickets in his pocket when he was carted off Yes that appears to be what happened
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 10, 2024 11:01:21 GMT
The left and minority appeasing politicians have very successfully turned Tommy Robinson into a hate figure, much as they did with Enoch Powell. I wonder, if Tommy Robinson were a Muslim hate preacher would the police block the road and stop traffic in order for him to preach in the street? Anyone who thinks we do not have two tier policing must also think the Emperor was finely clothed. I remember seeing that twat on a number of occasions which I personally found disgusting and to me unacceptable, however the Police are obliged to facilitate Peaceful Protest as is our right to do so, the huge Protests we see in London most weekends are peaceful and comply with the Police instructions on route and time they finish, so far the Met have only arrested 36 people so far. When it comes to Stop Oil etc they have arrested hundreds The Prime Minister has said publicly that 'from the river to the sea' is deeply offensive and anti-Semitic. The police obviously disagree. Wearing full face coverings during demonstrations is banned by law, the police ignore it. Promoting a proscribed organisation carries a six month jail sentence yet Jihadi-Isis-Hamas flags are are often seen, again the police ignore it. As for JSO morons, on dozens of occasions the police allowed them to block roads for hours, indeed the police openly sympathised and brought them drinks while arresting angry motorists. Believe it or not, it is in-fact against the law to block the public highway. Again, the incompetent police are choosing what laws to enforce and what laws to ignore.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 10, 2024 11:02:35 GMT
I am fully aware that people can be banned from some areas in a distance chosen by magistrates but to ban a person from the whole of London is nothing more than shear extremism. To every action there is often a reaction, Robinson encouraged a drunken rabble mainly ageing Football Hooligans and probably EDL members which he created to come to defend the Cenotaph , which resulted in the Police being attacked some badly injured, Robinson legged it . Later when a mainly Jewish Protest was gathering he was asked to leave the area as Police had put in force an exclusion zone, he refused hence he was arrested again, all he had to do was do as he was asked. That is why he was banned from entering any part of London to avoid anymore problems from him, once his trial is over that will be removed Banned by whome? Magistrates are not the law and only represent the law. They are only there by priviledge and not for their knowledge. Hypothetical scenario supposing his daughter went to watch the football in london alone and had an accident or an illness whilst there and was put into a londong hospital it is obvious her father would want to visit her bedside. And that is why I stated that to ban someone from a whole city is nothing more than exteemism.
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