Nemo
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Post by Nemo on Mar 9, 2024 11:05:29 GMT
Interesting article from The Sun
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 9, 2024 11:22:36 GMT
Public transport in the North is appaling, in my family no one uses trains any more because the service is just so bad. We would buy tickets to get from A to B and then suddenly, out of the blue ... this service is terminating at Huddersfield, and buses are provided to complete your journey.
Other times, services just dont turn up, or they are suddenly cancelled, we have had to get taxi's to take us 50 miles because the last train of the day is suddenly withdrawn.
Buses are not much better, only last week a family member bought a MegaBus ticket from Middlesbrough to Newcastle, the service was delayed for two hours, meaning they would miss connections to the Airport ( another taxi £75.00 ).
Privatization and deregulation ... what a disaster, back in the 70s and 80s we had one bus company which operated all services in the area, "Late" or "Cancelled" was unheard of, it just didn't happen.
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Post by piglet on Mar 9, 2024 11:28:37 GMT
Theres was a report in a paper about an increase in fares, and it cost thirty quid to go fifteen miles. Something very bad is happening, i think wokery is a symptom, that as a species we are going backwards, more stupid, belligerent, nasty.
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 9, 2024 11:34:15 GMT
McKinstry mentions, almost in passing, the corroding effect of the 'Diversity and Inclusion' culture which has taken over not just public bodies like the NHS but private business also.
What he doesn't do, however, is explain how this results in an epidemic of mediocrity as standards are lowered and squabbling over access to resources takes over the political discourse.
A few examples would not have gone amiss, delivered in the Sun-reader friendly language of the rest of the piece.
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Post by piglet on Mar 10, 2024 11:26:45 GMT
Its explains itself Baron. You have a way of undermining stuff you dont agree with by needing it qualified, like setting someone up to set them down, or is it that you really dont get 80 percent of things....interesting which one it is, both are possible.
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Post by Dogburger on Mar 10, 2024 12:10:26 GMT
Public transport in the North is appaling, in my family no one uses trains any more because the service is just so bad. We would buy tickets to get from A to B and then suddenly, out of the blue ... this service is terminating at Huddersfield, and buses are provided to complete your journey. Other times, services just dont turn up, or they are suddenly cancelled, we have had to get taxi's to take us 50 miles because the last train of the day is suddenly withdrawn. Buses are not much better, only last week a family member bought a MegaBus ticket from Middlesbrough to Newcastle, the service was delayed for two hours, meaning they would miss connections to the Airport ( another taxi £75.00 ). Privatization and deregulation ... what a disaster, back in the 70s and 80s we had one bus company which operated all services in the area, "Late" or "Cancelled" was unheard of, it just didn't happen. Totally agree , Living in London is OK with 24 hour buses and the trains are regular enough to not get too stressed about the odd cancellation . But feck me try and get home from just a few miles outside and it always goes tits .The third from last bus is often actually the last one and thats before the sun has even set from some places . For anyone living permanently in middle earth you have my sympathies |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 10, 2024 12:34:23 GMT
I can't remember the last time I used an Intercity Train to go up North, as stated unreliable and two expensive Rail Fares have just gone up by 4.9% those who commute by train to get into London every week costs an arm and a leg, trains don't run on time, then of course Industrial Action for about a year
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 10, 2024 12:49:10 GMT
Public transport in the North is appaling, in my family no one uses trains any more because the service is just so bad. We would buy tickets to get from A to B and then suddenly, out of the blue ... this service is terminating at Huddersfield, and buses are provided to complete your journey. Other times, services just dont turn up, or they are suddenly cancelled, we have had to get taxi's to take us 50 miles because the last train of the day is suddenly withdrawn. Buses are not much better, only last week a family member bought a MegaBus ticket from Middlesbrough to Newcastle, the service was delayed for two hours, meaning they would miss connections to the Airport ( another taxi £75.00 ). Privatization and deregulation ... what a disaster, back in the 70s and 80s we had one bus company which operated all services in the area, "Late" or "Cancelled" was unheard of, it just didn't happen. Get real. Public transport was shit in the 70s & 80s.
"Late" or "Cancelled" might have been unheard of, but "On strike" certainly wasn't.
Privatisation happened precisely because of the failings of nationalised services.
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 10, 2024 13:06:57 GMT
McKinstry mentions, almost in passing, the corroding effect of the 'Diversity and Inclusion' culture which has taken over not just public bodies like the NHS but private business also. What he doesn't do, however, is explain how this results in an epidemic of mediocrity as standards are lowered and squabbling over access to resources takes over the political discourse. A few examples would not have gone amiss, delivered in the Sun-reader friendly language of the rest of the piece. Even though it will never be admitted publicly, I'm fairly confident the corroding effect of diversity and inclusion has not gone unnoticed in the corridors of power. |
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Post by witchfinder on Mar 10, 2024 13:07:57 GMT
Public transport in the North is appaling, in my family no one uses trains any more because the service is just so bad. We would buy tickets to get from A to B and then suddenly, out of the blue ... this service is terminating at Huddersfield, and buses are provided to complete your journey. Other times, services just dont turn up, or they are suddenly cancelled, we have had to get taxi's to take us 50 miles because the last train of the day is suddenly withdrawn. Buses are not much better, only last week a family member bought a MegaBus ticket from Middlesbrough to Newcastle, the service was delayed for two hours, meaning they would miss connections to the Airport ( another taxi £75.00 ). Privatization and deregulation ... what a disaster, back in the 70s and 80s we had one bus company which operated all services in the area, "Late" or "Cancelled" was unheard of, it just didn't happen. Get real. Public transport was shit in the 70s & 80s.
"Late" or "Cancelled" might have been unheard of, but "On strike" certainly wasn't.
Privatisation happened precisely because of the failings of nationalised services.
We had just one bus company here where I live, the United Automobile Bus Services, otherwise known to everyone as simply "United". I think that I can perhaps remember one strike, and the services were extremely reliable, unlike today the buses always turned up. Bus services were certainly not shit, but they are today, and of course the other huge advantages of a regulated bus service was that there was only one company, with one set of bus timetables. Whereas today there are different bus companies and different timetables, nothing is joined-up like it used to be. As for train services, theres just no comparison to the services today in the North compared to pre-privatization, we must have the worst train services in Europe, they are terrible. I have an open mind on public transport, but what I do know as a fact is that bringing the railways back into state ownership is a policy popular with a lot of Tory voting commuters. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 10, 2024 13:17:58 GMT
Whitchfinder is front centre sporting a very fetching double breasted overcoat.  |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 10, 2024 13:31:28 GMT
Whitchfinder is front centre sporting a very fetching double breasted overcoat. Oh dear that looks to be the late 1950s, We used to go on tours just like that on a Sunday when I was about 7 and 8 to various places like Crief, Linlithgow Palace, Aberfoyle, Callander and the Trossachs. Bluebird coaches (Alexanders) very little different from above but often with the driver compartment separate. |
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Post by ginnyg2 on Mar 10, 2024 15:42:31 GMT
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 10, 2024 16:20:33 GMT
Get real. Public transport was shit in the 70s & 80s.
"Late" or "Cancelled" might have been unheard of, but "On strike" certainly wasn't.
Privatisation happened precisely because of the failings of nationalised services.
We had just one bus company here where I live, the United Automobile Bus Services, otherwise known to everyone as simply "United". I think that I can perhaps remember one strike, and the services were extremely reliable, unlike today the buses always turned up. Bus services were certainly not shit, but they are today, and of course the other huge advantages of a regulated bus service was that there was only one company, with one set of bus timetables. Whereas today there are different bus companies and different timetables, nothing is joined-up like it used to be. As for train services, theres just no comparison to the services today in the North compared to pre-privatization, we must have the worst train services in Europe, they are terrible. I have an open mind on public transport, but what I do know as a fact is that bringing the railways back into state ownership is a policy popular with a lot of Tory voting commuters.50% of the current rail franchises are currently under state ownership - I bet you cannot tell me which ones without looking them up. Their performance does not stand out from the ones run by the private sector - when 100% are under state ownership and the service does not improve what will be the excuse then?, lack of subsidy I suppose.. |
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Post by Orac on Mar 10, 2024 16:21:30 GMT
McKinstry mentions, almost in passing, the corroding effect of the 'Diversity and Inclusion' culture which has taken over not just public bodies like the NHS but private business also. What he doesn't do, however, is explain how this results in an epidemic of mediocrity as standards are lowered and squabbling over access to resources takes over the political discourse. A few examples would not have gone amiss, delivered in the Sun-reader friendly language of the rest of the piece. Even though it will never be admitted publicly, I'm fairly confident the corroding effect of diversity and inclusion has not gone unnoticed in the corridors of power. Unless one of the falling aeroplanes manages to hit the house of commons or Whitehall, i doubt it will bother them much |
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