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Post by steppenwolf on Feb 29, 2024 9:07:53 GMT
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What Sunak said is very reminiscent of what Braverman has also said. Except that Sunak doesn't have the courage to say who the "mob" are. But everyone knows. WHy can't Sunak just say it?
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Post by Hutchyns on Feb 29, 2024 9:38:17 GMT
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Because this is Britain and it causes a furore. Those who think the Jews are the problem fear the consequences of 'just saying it'. If you're an MP and you don't like the direction London is going in, and it's your assertion that this is mainly down to the Muslims .... well there will be negative consequences for you if you just say it. The whole point of introducing a whole raft of speech crime laws, adding to them continually, and applying them with ever more rigor is to prevent people from 'just saying it'.
Politicians are experts at dancing around a subject and knowing just how much ambiguity to add in order to allow a get out clause should they need it. You'll notice they all say 'let me be very clear on this' as a prelude to comments which when analysed will be anything but clear. It's modern Britain I'm afraid, and we've elected and given power to the very politicians that have shaped it this way with their legislation.
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 29, 2024 10:04:27 GMT
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Can you for one minute envisage an angry demonstration outside parliament in which a speaker told a baying 'union jack' waving mob that he wanted Parliament to have to lock its doors? No, me neither. The Met would sort them out immediately, but as ever, if the baying mob are waving Palestine/Hamas flags the police look the other way. And I don't just blame the police, Khan is the most racist and incompetent mayor to date and is responsible for police partiality, as is the Home Sec and Prime Minister both of whom appear to be frightened of the left wing mob.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Feb 29, 2024 10:08:01 GMT
They're reaping what they've sown, I'm afraid.
And the public can see it.
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Post by Dan Dare on Feb 29, 2024 10:20:32 GMT
The critical turn came in the 1960s when the concept of group rights - as opposed to individual rights - became embedded in British law.
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 29, 2024 10:27:34 GMT
The critical turn came in the 1960s when the concept of group rights - as opposed to individual rights - became embedded in British law. I disagree, things may have changed in the 1960's but the turning point in this country was the early 21st century. Blair, the EU and mass immigration have had and continue to have a massive negative effect on this country. |
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Post by piglet on Feb 29, 2024 10:31:21 GMT
Amazing, Sunak sees a problem and does nothing. We need a head banger.
A head banger that will knock heads together, starting with the Gaza protestors, and instill law and order, like now.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 29, 2024 10:32:49 GMT
The critical turn came in the 1960s when the concept of group rights - as opposed to individual rights - became embedded in British law. I disagree, things may have changed in the 1960's but the turning point in this country was the early 21st century. Blair, the EU and mass immigration have had and continue to have a massive negative effect on this country. The treaty that Blair signed up for at the heart of the EUSSR has a lot to answer for Red.. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 29, 2024 10:34:29 GMT
I disagree, things may have changed in the 1960's but the turning point in this country was the early 21st century. Blair, the EU and mass immigration have had and continue to have a massive negative effect on this country. The treaty that Blair signed up for at the heart of the EUSSR has a lot to answer for Red.. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Feb 29, 2024 10:36:42 GMT
Without the group rights that were created in law minorities (=migrants) would not have had the expectations of 'equality' and entitlements to resources that they were able to demand and receive from the 1970s onwards.
Blair's Folly was simply a continuation of processes that were already in place; he invented nothing.
You're fingering the wrong culprits.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2024 10:57:03 GMT
Amazing, Sunak sees a problem and does nothing. We need a head banger. A head banger that will knock heads together, starting with the Gaza protestors, and instill law and order, like now. Sunak is a part of the problem because he talks a lot and as you say, does nothing. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 29, 2024 11:34:26 GMT
So Sunak is worried about 'mob rule' - just think if we had someone in a position of power who could do something about that..
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Post by jonksy on Feb 29, 2024 12:25:38 GMT
They're reaping what they've sown, I'm afraid. And the public can see it.It seems the only ones who cannot see it are the rent-a-prick rejects mate.... |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 29, 2024 13:08:49 GMT
Without the group rights that were created in law minorities (=migrants) would not have had the expectations of 'equality' and entitlements to resources that they were able to demand and receive from the 1970s onwards. Blair's Folly was simply a continuation of processes that were already in place; he invented nothing. You're fingering the wrong culprits. This fucking up has been going on for 150 years. It has been one thing after another since the 1870s or there abouts. We started losing at everything and by the 50s we have pretty much lost our empire even if a lot still remained under our control officially. Some say the multicultural thing was a way of making up for the empire so we could till claim our superiority. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 29, 2024 13:20:58 GMT
Without the group rights that were created in law minorities (=migrants) would not have had the expectations of 'equality' and entitlements to resources that they were able to demand and receive from the 1970s onwards. Blair's Folly was simply a continuation of processes that were already in place; he invented nothing. You're fingering the wrong culprits. This fucking up has been going on for 150 years. It has been one thing after another since the 1870s or there abouts. We started losing at everything and by the 50s we have pretty much lost our empire even if a lot still remained under our control officially. Some say the multicultural thing was a way of making up for the empire so we could till claim our superiority. Remarkable outburst. The loss of empire, or more acurately the withdrawal from empire, has nothing whatsoever to do with this country's social and moral decline over the past 20 or so years. |
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