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Post by Orac on Feb 29, 2024 16:37:18 GMT
You are entitled to any opinion you want - an entitlement you seem unable to apply to others. They got up the Chinese Communist party's nose some time and since then you seem inconsolable on the matter. It was about this time I started to see the cracks in the bullshit line. They do not do their research. They talk shit, even if it is the shit you like, it is still shit. With GB News, if we followed these idiots we would be out of the frying pan and into the fire and may well have WW3 on our hands. You are entitled to your opinion, but the fact you are more or less aligned with Chinese communist party means I don't give it very much weight. In a democracy we should to try get along without closing down media we don't have much regard for ...but then again, being aligned with the Chinese communist party, you likely take a dim view of that notion.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 29, 2024 16:58:54 GMT
Remove yourself from the GB News/Daily Mail bubble once in a while. Your mind is trapped. It won't be open to any alternative considerations. GB News are using known brainwashing tactics. LOL, GB News is not brainwashing me and I assure you my mind is not trapped. However, I cant say the same for people who get their daily dose of news from the left leaning minority appeasing BBC. Have you ever looked around a stately home and seen black and white chequered patterned floors like the police insignia? Did you ever wonder why it is so common? Well it essentially implies a duality, which one might say in part comes from the Christian tradition of good and evil or heaven and hell. However, unlike the Christian tradition, in these cases it means something slightly different, in that it is essentially recognising the occupants are part of a group who believe in control of both good and evil. This may well confuse the fuck out of people, but it is what happens. Rather than being on one side, the elite are on and running opposing factions. They run the charities and the organised crime. This turns out to be a greater level of control over the masses than the elite taking one side or the other, or even delineating it in the first place. Now hopefully it will make sense to you why they both run the BBC and the GB News.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 29, 2024 17:09:47 GMT
It was about this time I started to see the cracks in the bullshit line. They do not do their research. They talk shit, even if it is the shit you like, it is still shit. With GB News, if we followed these idiots we would be out of the frying pan and into the fire and may well have WW3 on our hands. You are entitled to your opinion, but the fact you are more or less aligned with Chinese communist party means I don't give it very much weight. In a democracy we should to try get along without closing down media we don't have much regard for ...but then again, being aligned with the Chinese communist party, you likely take a dim view of that notion. I do not take an absolute view on censorship. I agree with some of it. The Chinese government have a different history from our own. It was not so long ago we had the Rightists. If you look at that time you would see how bad things can get, so bear in mind they always have that in the back of their mind. Promotion of violent insurrection in China is illegal and for good reason. The vast majority back the law as well.
As for GB News, the producers are just academically thick when it comes to China. They speak from sheer ignorance. My view is we had better hurry up and understand China will be the dominant economic power in 20 years or less from now. You can't change that. Our country would be better off if it got in touch with reality and planned the best course of action, which would be to engage peacefully in economic trade. They leave the door open for us to do so if we choose. However these fascist bastards in government want to make the Brits poorer. Our car industry is vulnerable now as is our university industry. We had better start thinking of alternative revenue streams, not revenue sinks (war).
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 29, 2024 17:35:01 GMT
Have you ever looked around a stately home and seen black and white chequered patterned floors like the police insignia? Did you ever wonder why it is so common? Well it essentially implies a duality, which one might say in part comes from the Christian tradition of good and evil or heaven and hell. However, unlike the Christian tradition, in these cases it means something slightly different, in that it is essentially recognising the occupants are part of a group who believe in control of both good and evil. This may well confuse the fuck out of people, but it is what happens. Rather than being on one side, the elite are on and running opposing factions. They run the charities and the organised crime. This turns out to be a greater level of control over the masses than the elite taking one side or the other, or even delineating it in the first place. Now hopefully it will make sense to you why they both run the BBC and the GB News. Interesting, but you're looking at this far too deeply. You're looking for clues on the horizon but failing to see what's in front of you. Elites may well run the BBC and GB News, but don't for a moment be fooled into thinking they're both giving the same message. BvL, I want you to do a little experiment, but you have to be honest and unbiased. I want you watch a BBC news bulletin, then watch a GB News bulletin. Then report back and tell me what you think. Dont forget you have to be honest and unbiased. If you're not honest and unbiased - I have a certain set of skills, skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you are honest and unbiased that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you're not honest and unbiased, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you. OK I may have plagiarized some of that... or did I
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Post by Orac on Feb 29, 2024 17:49:43 GMT
You are entitled to your opinion, but the fact you are more or less aligned with Chinese communist party means I don't give it very much weight. In a democracy we should to try get along without closing down media we don't have much regard for ...but then again, being aligned with the Chinese communist party, you likely take a dim view of that notion.
As for GB News, the producers are just academically thick when it comes to China. They speak from sheer ignorance. Like i said, I don't give your opinion much weight and I don't the British public should be subject to it.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 29, 2024 17:54:24 GMT
Have you ever looked around a stately home and seen black and white chequered patterned floors like the police insignia? Did you ever wonder why it is so common? Well it essentially implies a duality, which one might say in part comes from the Christian tradition of good and evil or heaven and hell. However, unlike the Christian tradition, in these cases it means something slightly different, in that it is essentially recognising the occupants are part of a group who believe in control of both good and evil. This may well confuse the fuck out of people, but it is what happens. Rather than being on one side, the elite are on and running opposing factions. They run the charities and the organised crime. This turns out to be a greater level of control over the masses than the elite taking one side or the other, or even delineating it in the first place. Now hopefully it will make sense to you why they both run the BBC and the GB News. Interesting, but you're looking at this far too deeply. You're looking for clues on the horizon but failing to see what's in front of you. Elites may well run the BBC and GB News, but don't for a moment be fooled into thinking they're both giving the same message. BvL, I want you to do a little experiment, but you have to be honest and unbiased. I want you watch a BBC news bulletin, then watch a GB News bulletin. Then report back and tell me what you think. Dont forget you have to be honest and unbiased. If you're not honest and unbiased - I have a certain set of skills, skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you are honest and unbiased that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you're not honest and unbiased, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you. OK I may have plagiarized some of that... or did I I know what is going on. GB News is the new kid on the block. They will build it up until it has a strong following and then it will get badly compromised. The same thing is employed in the arts. They sponsor some cretin, they give him good music to play, then once he is doing international tours he will go woke, but you will still believe in him.
The BBC is far more unlistenable to as far as my experiences go than GB News, but I'm starting to notice what GB News' game is, and my brainwashing detectors are flashing red. It's only when you start to source you facts more widely do you start to grasp the bigger picture. My information comes from millions of different sources. If I want to know what is going on in a country I can ask a blogger who is there and experiencing it. I also listen to people who are professional investors on the capital markets and they fill me in on how world trade is doing. Anyway, like I said earlier, I'm quite keen on the New Culture Forum which specialises in woke culture. You learn a lot more than GB News, which is very shallow.
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Post by Vinny on Feb 29, 2024 18:10:55 GMT
Every time you bring up China, or Russia in a favourable light, I get tempted to post this:
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 29, 2024 18:11:22 GMT
I know what is going on. GB News is the new kid on the block. They will build it up until it has a strong following and then it will get badly compromised. The same thing is employed in the arts. They sponsor some cretin, they give him good music to play, then once he is doing international tours he will go woke, but you will still believe in him. The BBC is far more unlistenable to as far as my experiences go than GB News, but I'm starting to notice what GB News' game is, and my brainwashing detectors are flashing red. It's only when you start to source you facts more widely do you start to grasp the bigger picture. My information comes from millions of different sources. If I want to know what is going on in a country I can ask a blogger who is there and experiencing it. I also listen to people who are professional investors on the capital markets and they fill me in on how world trade is doing. Anyway, like I said earlier, I'm quite keen on the New Culture Forum which specialises in woke culture. You learn a lot more than GB News, which is very shallow. Do you? Do you really know what's going on? I think you have preconceived ideas born from an exaggerated sense of superiority. In your mind you cant possibly be wrong because you're a genius who is talking to idiots who just don't understand. But this behaviour is sometimes used as a defence mechanism to hide feelings of inferiority. Come on BvL, you can tell me, do you have feelings of inferiority?..
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 29, 2024 18:19:44 GMT
I know what is going on. GB News is the new kid on the block. They will build it up until it has a strong following and then it will get badly compromised. The same thing is employed in the arts. They sponsor some cretin, they give him good music to play, then once he is doing international tours he will go woke, but you will still believe in him. The BBC is far more unlistenable to as far as my experiences go than GB News, but I'm starting to notice what GB News' game is, and my brainwashing detectors are flashing red. It's only when you start to source you facts more widely do you start to grasp the bigger picture. My information comes from millions of different sources. If I want to know what is going on in a country I can ask a blogger who is there and experiencing it. I also listen to people who are professional investors on the capital markets and they fill me in on how world trade is doing. Anyway, like I said earlier, I'm quite keen on the New Culture Forum which specialises in woke culture. You learn a lot more than GB News, which is very shallow. Do you? Do you really know what's going on? I think you have preconceived ideas born from an exaggerated sense of superiority. In your mind you cant possibly be wrong because you're a genius who is talking to idiots who just don't understand. But this behaviour is sometimes used as a defence mechanism to hide feelings of inferiority. Come on BvL, you can tell me, do you have feelings of inferiority?.. It is important to know the game so you can live a comfortable life and avoid trouble by anticipating what is going to happen otherwise. Like I keep trying to explain, there are two sides, and both sides speak some truth and tell some lies. If you side with either you are compromised since the other side can out you on the lies you believe. I learnt that lesson a very long time ago. I see it today with the issues of green energy. I see waste because of what they do and yet I also see some excellent green tech that will outperform what we have now. Supporting either camp means you are in error. You have to review everything yourself and figure out which is good for us and which is bad.
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 29, 2024 18:40:25 GMT
It is important to know the game so you can live a comfortable life and avoid trouble by anticipating what is going to happen otherwise. Like I keep trying to explain, there are two sides, and both sides speak some truth and tell some lies. If you side with either you are compromised since the other side can out you on the lies you believe. I learnt that lesson a very long time ago. I see it today with the issues of green energy. I see waste because of what they do and yet I also see some excellent green tech that will outperform what we have now. Supporting either camp means you are in error. You have to review everything yourself and figure out which is good for us and which is bad. Again you ignore my brilliantly witty repartee which suggests it may have been closer to the truth than I thought, or you have no sense of humour. However. 'The game' you speak of, I wised up to it a few years ago. I was always a BBC fan, I always supported the trusted, the globally loved BBC. That is until I realised the only people who were saying the BBC were trusted and globally loved, was the BBC itself. The BBC have been mired in controversy after controversy and that may not be so bad if it were not for the fact that we're forced by law to buy a BBC tv licence to watch ITV. But for many people the straw that broke the donkeys back was the BBC's obvious and blatant biased coverage of Brexit. That, as Boy Browning might have said, was a bridge too far.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 29, 2024 18:54:00 GMT
It is important to know the game so you can live a comfortable life and avoid trouble by anticipating what is going to happen otherwise. Like I keep trying to explain, there are two sides, and both sides speak some truth and tell some lies. If you side with either you are compromised since the other side can out you on the lies you believe. I learnt that lesson a very long time ago. I see it today with the issues of green energy. I see waste because of what they do and yet I also see some excellent green tech that will outperform what we have now. Supporting either camp means you are in error. You have to review everything yourself and figure out which is good for us and which is bad. Again you ignore my brilliantly witty repartee which suggests it may have been closer to the truth than I thought, or you have no sense of humour. However. 'The game' you speak of, I wised up to it a few years ago. I was always a BBC fan, I always supported the trusted, the globally loved BBC. That is until I realised the only people who were saying the BBC were trusted and globally loved, was the BBC itself. The BBC have been mired in controversy after controversy and that may not be so bad if it were not for the fact that we're forced by law to buy a BBC tv licence to watch ITV. But for many people the straw that broke the donkeys back was the BBC's obvious and blatant biased coverage of Brexit. That, as Boy Browning might have said, was a bridge too far. I also used to enjoy the BBC. I think the first signs of trouble was when I noticed they were promoting a lot of homosexuality, like around the mid 80s. Now it is a full on cult. They use every brainwashing trick in the book. They have brainwashed themselves in fact. Like the guys who created those LSD factories, the BBC got high on their own supply.
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 29, 2024 19:06:54 GMT
Again you ignore my brilliantly witty repartee which suggests it may have been closer to the truth than I thought, or you have no sense of humour. However. 'The game' you speak of, I wised up to it a few years ago. I was always a BBC fan, I always supported the trusted, the globally loved BBC. That is until I realised the only people who were saying the BBC were trusted and globally loved, was the BBC itself. The BBC have been mired in controversy after controversy and that may not be so bad if it were not for the fact that we're forced by law to buy a BBC tv licence to watch ITV. But for many people the straw that broke the donkeys back was the BBC's obvious and blatant biased coverage of Brexit. That, as Boy Browning might have said, was a bridge too far. I also used to enjoy the BBC. I think the first signs of trouble was when I noticed they were promoting a lot of homosexuality, like around the mid 80s. Now it is a full on cult. They use every brainwashing trick in the book. They have brainwashed themselves in fact. Like the guys who created those LSD factories, the BBC got high on their own supply. I'll tell you why you should tune into GB News. The establishment hate it, the BBC are constantly calling for it to be shut down, which suggests GB News are doing something right. However, GB News are very aware that powerful actors want the channel closed down. This means GB News have to be very careful and in discussions/debates they always provide an alternative viewpoint, an opposing opinion.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 29, 2024 19:12:44 GMT
I also used to enjoy the BBC. I think the first signs of trouble was when I noticed they were promoting a lot of homosexuality, like around the mid 80s. Now it is a full on cult. They use every brainwashing trick in the book. They have brainwashed themselves in fact. Like the guys who created those LSD factories, the BBC got high on their own supply. I'll tell you why you should tune into GB News. The establishment hate it, the BBC are constantly calling for it to be shut down, which suggests GB News are doing something right. However, GB News are very aware that powerful actors want the channel closed down. This means GB News have to be very careful and in discussions/debates they always provide an alternative viewpoint, an opposing opinion. Yes but ironically all these attack will likely not cause it to close down but to conform to the ones they are supposedly speaking out agaisnt, so they will look weak and hypocritical. I don't think you can run a TV station in this country unless it toes the line, as per every bit as much what it was like during the cultural revolution in China. I stick to independent producers as much as possible and try and encourage them.
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 29, 2024 19:28:17 GMT
I'll tell you why you should tune into GB News. The establishment hate it, the BBC are constantly calling for it to be shut down, which suggests GB News are doing something right. However, GB News are very aware that powerful actors want the channel closed down. This means GB News have to be very careful and in discussions/debates they always provide an alternative viewpoint, an opposing opinion. Yes but ironically all these attack will likely not cause it to close down but to conform to the ones they are supposedly speaking out agaisnt, so they will look weak and hypocritical. I don't think you can run a TV station in this country unless it toes the line, as per every bit as much what it was like during the cultural revolution in China. I stick to independent producers as much as possible and try and encourage them. I think that's the first time I've ever heard anyone compare Ofcom to the cultural revolution in China, and tbf, it was always going to be you. You keep talking about GB News being closed down, this is fantasy you're talking if's and but's and maybe's, not facts. This is called wishful thinking, which you are perfectly entitled to do. I'm currently listening to someone explaining to Nigel Farage what effect scrapping non-dom tax status would have. I suspect the average BBC viewer would be uninterested, lets face it, they wouldn't understand what non-dom is. If they did I'm sure they would be outraged.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 29, 2024 19:42:49 GMT
Yes but ironically all these attack will likely not cause it to close down but to conform to the ones they are supposedly speaking out agaisnt, so they will look weak and hypocritical. I don't think you can run a TV station in this country unless it toes the line, as per every bit as much what it was like during the cultural revolution in China. I stick to independent producers as much as possible and try and encourage them. I think that's the first time I've ever heard anyone compare Ofcom to the cultural revolution in China, and tbf, it was always going to be you. You keep talking about GB News being closed down, this is fantasy you're talking if's and but's and maybe's, not facts. This is called wishful thinking, which you are perfectly entitled to do. I'm currently listening to someone explaining to Nigel Farage what effect scrapping non-dom tax status would have. I suspect the average BBC viewer would be uninterested, lets face it, they wouldn't understand what non-dom is. If they did I'm sure they would be outraged. Actually I did pick that bit of news up today, but it was from some independent guy who reads all the newspapers and crap so I don't have to. Yes I'm aware roughly how it works. I'm not really a tax expert, so I defer to those who know more than I do. By the way, I certainly don't think GB News should be banned, but I do have a problem with reliability of information. There are things i know about and know in depth and there are things I don't know about, e.g. non-dom tax status.
I don't judge GB news on the things i don't know about. I forensically check reports where I have expert knowledge, and I do the same with the BBC. You won't like my findings, but I do find on average the BBC do check their facts. They certainly don't give balanced reports when it suits them and can suffer terrible dumbing down, but lets say they do a programme on nuclear physics, they will have checked it with the professors before publication so they score well there. With GB News I find a lot of error in the things I know about. Those I don't I keep an open mind about, neither believing nor disbelieving.
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