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Post by Bentley on Feb 18, 2024 21:34:03 GMT
You said you believed that this Country is Christian and adopts Christian ethics and Values.. Now you have changed that to some do and some don’t . Do you think that the Christian doctrine points in my previous post applied to enough people in the UK to define the country as Christian ? Yes I answerd that but do you also agree what I added is also Christian Vauls and ethics No. Sanctity of life and ‘equality’ are values common to most religions . They certainly don’t support a claim that the UK is a Christian country. You could equally claim that the UK was a Muslim, Buddhist , Taoist or even an atheist Objectivist country by that definition.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 18, 2024 21:56:18 GMT
Yes I answerd that but do you also agree what I added is also Christian Vauls and ethics No. Sanctity of life and ‘equality’ are values common to most religions . They certainly don’t support a claim that the UK is a Christian country. You could equally claim that the UK was a Muslim, Buddhist , Taoist or even an atheist Objectivist country by that definition. don't know about Muslims about sanctity of life and equality are you sure about that . Buddhism I's very closed sect and don't except people of anyother relgion or Culture. Taoist don't know who they are Atheist certainly don't believe in the sanctity of life there very pro abortion So your wrong on most points.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 18, 2024 22:00:12 GMT
No. Sanctity of life and ‘equality’ are values common to most religions . They certainly don’t support a claim that the UK is a Christian country. You could equally claim that the UK was a Muslim, Buddhist , Taoist or even an atheist Objectivist country by that definition. don't know about Muslims about sanctity of life and equality are you sure about that . Buddhism I's very closed sect and don't except people of anyother relgion or Culture. Taoist don't know who they are Atheist certainly don't believe in the sanctity of life there very pro abortion So you’re wrong on most points. You haven’t a clue about religions have you ? ”Buddhism I's very closed sect and don't except people of anyother relgion or Culture”. lol. The UK is generally pro Abortion ? Does that make them Christians ?
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 18, 2024 22:20:57 GMT
don't know about Muslims about sanctity of life and equality are you sure about that . Buddhism I's very closed sect and don't except people of anyother relgion or Culture. Taoist don't know who they are Atheist certainly don't believe in the sanctity of life there very pro abortion So you’re wrong on most points. You haven’t a clue about religions have you ? ”Buddhism I's very closed sect and don't except people of anyother relgion or Culture”. lol. The UK is generally pro Abortion ? Does that make them Christians ? You don't seem to have a Clue what your on about The UK is generally pro Abortion ? Does that make them Christians ? This is what I said There many in This Country that don't ] that includes Some Christians Has for buddism there countries in East Asia that are Buddhist and persecute people of other Religions and Culture
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Post by Bentley on Feb 18, 2024 22:29:23 GMT
You haven’t a clue about religions have you ? ”Buddhism I's very closed sect and don't except people of anyother relgion or Culture”. lol. The UK is generally pro Abortion ? Does that make them Christians ? You don't seem to have a Clue what your on about The UK is generally pro Abortion ? Does that make them Christians ? This is what I said There many in This Country that don't ] that includes Some Christians Has for buddism there countries in East Asia that are Buddhist and persecute people of other Religions and Culture All religions do that over time . Christianity has a very poor record and is notorious for persecuting other religions . Is that what you mean ? So do you think Christianity supports abortion?
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 18, 2024 22:42:21 GMT
You don't seem to have a Clue what your on about The UK is generally pro Abortion ? Does that make them Christians ? This is what I said There many in This Country that don't ] that includes Some Christians Has for buddism there countries in East Asia that are Buddhist and persecute people of other Religions and Culture All religions do that over time . Christianity has a very poor record and is notorious for persecuting other religions . Is that what you mean ? So do you think Christianity supports abortion? Obviously them Country's didn't follow Christian values for instance I certainly wouldn't say the Spanish Inquisition was of Christian values I met to say Atheist are very pro Abortion they certainly don't respect the Sanctity of life
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Post by Bentley on Feb 18, 2024 22:54:04 GMT
All religions do that over time . Christianity has a very poor record and is notorious for persecuting other religions . Is that what you mean ? So do you think Christianity supports abortion? Obviously them Country's didn't follow Christian values for instance I certainly wouldn't say the Spanish Inquisition was of Christian values I met to say Atheist are very pro Abortion they certainly don't respect the Sanctity of life Abortion is legal in the UK .That doesn’t reflect Christian values .
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 18, 2024 23:23:49 GMT
Obviously them Country's didn't follow Christian values for instance I certainly wouldn't say the Spanish Inquisition was of Christian values I met to say Atheist are very pro Abortion they certainly don't respect the Sanctity of life Abortion is legal in the UK .That doesn’t reflect Christian values . It Certainly doesn't but the Culture I's I did say many in this Country didn't believe in Christian value and ethic that includes the Government and law makers. Any how about British Culture many on this Board say immigrants are destroying our Culture seems like the Atheist have done a Good job of that already. What next euthanasia?
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Post by Bentley on Feb 19, 2024 0:04:51 GMT
Abortion is legal in the UK .That doesn’t reflect Christian values . It Certainly doesn't but the Culture I's I did say many in this Country didn't believe in Christian value and ethic that includes the Government and law makers. Any how about British Culture many on this Board say immigrants are destroying our Culture seems like the Atheist have done a Good job of that already. What next euthanasia? The culture isn’t Christian . It doesn’t reflect Christian values or Christian doctrine . The values of sanctity of life and equality is reflected in several other religions such as Buddhism, Islam and Taoism ..even Objectivism which is an atheist philosophy . The UK is a mostly secular society that has for all intents and purposes rejected Christianity.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 0:24:13 GMT
It Certainly doesn't but the Culture I's I did say many in this Country didn't believe in Christian value and ethic that includes the Government and law makers. Any how about British Culture many on this Board say immigrants are destroying our Culture seems like the Atheist have done a Good job of that already. What next euthanasia? The culture isn’t Christian . It doesn’t reflect Christian values or Christian doctrine . The values of sanctity of life and equality is reflected in several other religions such as Buddhism, Islam and Taoism ..even Objectivism which is an atheist philosophy . The UK is a mostly secular society that has for all intents and purposes rejected Christianity. OK what British culture are imigrants destroying Fish & chips or getting drunk.and fighting
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Post by Bentley on Feb 19, 2024 0:29:06 GMT
The culture isn’t Christian . It doesn’t reflect Christian values or Christian doctrine . The values of sanctity of life and equality is reflected in several other religions such as Buddhism, Islam and Taoism ..even Objectivism which is an atheist philosophy . The UK is a mostly secular society that has for all intents and purposes rejected Christianity. OK what British culture are imigrants destroying Fish & chips or getting drunk.and fighting I’ve not heard of immigrants destroying fish and chips . Do you have a link to that ?
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 0:43:01 GMT
OK what British culture are imigrants destroying Fish & chips or getting drunk.and fighting I’ve not heard of immigrants destroying fish and chips . Do you have a link to that ? I'm asking what culture are they destroying and gave a example of fish &chips But seeing or was chicken ticka.massala Is seen the the National dish Maybe they have destroyed fish &chips
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Post by Bentley on Feb 19, 2024 9:45:06 GMT
I’ve not heard of immigrants destroying fish and chips . Do you have a link to that ? I'm asking what culture are they destroying and gave a example of fish &chips But seeing or was chicken ticka.massala Is seen the the National dish Maybe they have destroyed fish &chips What are you waffling about ?
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 19, 2024 10:35:16 GMT
Just had a look at the WIKI overview of Mr. Knowles who wrote the original passage Jonksy quoted as some justification that someone important foretells the downfall of the EU because it has lost its Christian roots and all that remains is its artistic legacy.
This could actually be a subject of a high school term paper but let's look at it.
Religion/faith is not in the hands or control of the EU. There are important differences across the area ranging from predominantly Christian practice in the Eastern states...Romania, Poland, Italy, Spain and Greece for example. The Northwest corner of the EU tends towards a more liberal secular approach...Scandanavia, the UK and France for example.
This is of course a generalisation but what is crystal clear is that the EU ITSELF has no religion. It is a POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC alliance which in the not too distant past, considered Turkey as a member. And Turkey is a very mixed culture.
"Knowles defends and praises the successes of Christopher Columbus, Hernán Cortés, the Pilgrims, and others that he calls "our political ancestors." He also defends the Crusades and colonization as justified and noble.[33]" WIKI
In other words he defends and praises those who were culturally and deeply of the Christianity of their time and whose life's mission was to spread this form of Christianity across new places EVEN WHEN IT MEANT SLAUGHTERING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE AND STEALING THEIR LAND.
Back then this was heroics in Christian thought..and Mr. Knowles seems to agree Today, if we look at the Christian tenets which, by the way often are argued by clerics both Catholic and Protestant, we see a strong move towards the original intentions of Christ's teachings...love your neighbour, welcome the poor , and above all, peace through reconciliation and forgiveness.
Mr. Knowles strikes me as someone who would hold slaves in order to convert them to his idea of Christianity.. a deeply flawed inversion of what Christ taught.
The EU is not a Christian alliance. It happens to be an alliance of nations with a traditionallly Christian history. Some of which are very different, from customs like Italian self flagellation to Greek Orthodoxy to the atheism seen elsewhere. It includes most of the world's religions including Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Rastafarians and Seikhs. The faiths of the population of the EU bears no pressure on its existence because the EU includes everyone. It creates legislation that affects everyone and the fact that it does not insist on Mr. Knowles' idea of conquest, slaughter and theft is what holds it together.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 20, 2024 11:12:55 GMT
Is the EUSSR’s Covid recovery fund failing?
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