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Post by Vinny on Feb 19, 2024 13:48:55 GMT
Any extreme end of a policy is doomed to fail.
Extreme socialism and extreme capitalism both have the fundamental problem that they do not work on their own.
Mix and match a few policies together in a way that far lefties and far righties do not like, and things can work.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 19, 2024 15:17:27 GMT
Any extreme end of a policy is doomed to fail. Extreme socialism and extreme capitalism both have the fundamental problem that they do not work on their own. Mix and match a few policies together in a way that far lefties and far righties do not like, and things can work. Extreme capitalism is OK if it is practised in markets where capitalism is possible. It's the kind of extreme we like, as per you would never say you can be too extremely reasonable or too intelligent etc.
Bad extremes can happen when the intention to be extreme was never planned. The French Revolution was an example where the elite wanted a nice friendly kind of people's society and yet one thing led to another in a really complicated succession of events where the architects of the revolution were now saying this has to be stopped as it has gone crazy. As you know, it turned to the most brutal thing.
Second example was after WW1 where Germany was all smashed up and they had to rebuild it. Germany was much like Britain was, in that it had a class system. The middle class were running German industry and the working class worked in the factories. Unfortunately at this time the US was very powerful and was able to control international capital markets with the US dollar and it caused the exchange rate in Germany to be so high that they could not compete on the international industrial markets. The middle class were starting to lose money thanks to US economic policy to do with creating a reserve currency. The US was so powerful they could move the market to their national advantage and this was basically removing money from middle class funds in Germany. The middle class protested, but these protests were ignored. It's a a bit like the Brits seeing the bankers protest their bonuses are not high enough. There was little sympathy. this too was unfortunate, since what happened next is the workers started getting laid off in increasing numbers and then nationwide poverty set in. The masses were now very angry and looking for someone to blame. Unfortunately for the Jews they had a talent for finance and as I understand it they converted to gold and kind of comfortably got by where everyone else was feeling it badly. It was at this point the people found a leader in some rather stupid working class chap who they saw as "one of us". This then led to an extreme solution.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 23:44:54 GMT
Men would be offered shelter with men. Women with women. Mentally ill people housed in lunatic asylums. Criminals would go to prison. No slavery. Just a set of policies to help people back onto 0their feet and prevent deaths on the streets. And that's a damn sight more than there is now. Btw, the Big Issue is a sort of workhouse type policy. That saves lives. One of my friends used to be a Big Issue seller in the 90's, he now has a wife, kids, house, mortgage. The Big Issue saved his life. Work, works. Do you know how the big issue works They paid so much and then they kept the prophet they made and like you said some Made good money. How can you compair that to what you suggest honest vint I think you're taking the p. |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 19, 2024 23:46:18 GMT
Men would be offered shelter with men. Women with women. Mentally ill people housed in lunatic asylums. Criminals would go to prison. No slavery. Just a set of policies to help people back onto 0their feet and prevent deaths on the streets. And that's a damn sight more than there is now. Btw, the Big Issue is a sort of workhouse type policy. That saves lives. One of my friends used to be a Big Issue seller in the 90's, he now has a wife, kids, house, mortgage. The Big Issue saved his life. Work, works. Do you know how the big issue works They paid so much and then they kept the prophet they made and like you said some Made good money. How can you compair that to what you suggest honest vint I think you're taking the p. Was your mate a rough sleeper |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 20, 2024 0:14:31 GMT
Do you know how the big issue works They paid so much and then they kept the prophet they made and like you said some Made good money. How can you compair that to what you suggest honest vint I think you're taking the p. Was your mate a rough sleeper For a time, yes, but the Big Issue helped him get back on his feet. I've seen too many homeless people in my time, and in our age, there's no excuses.
Create workhouses.
A roof over their heads, warm beds, a chance to rebuild their lives, earn money, and recover.
When I'm in London you only have to step out of a tube station and there's destitution, right there in the streets of the capital.
It's absurd that the Victorians did better by the destitute, than we do.
And who was the architect of the undoing of social assistance? The Labour Party.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 20, 2024 0:16:44 GMT
Programs that already exists to get the
Homeless into work and self employment.
Changing Lives grants
The Changing Lives grants help people experiencing homelessness to progress into education, employment and to start up small businesses in a range of industries. With grants ranging from £250 to £5,000, we support around 70 Crisis members each year to access the tools and equipment, start training and pursue qualifications needed to achieve their ambition.
Changing Lives began in 2002 as an innovative programme that empowered people with lived experience of homelessness to build confidence and take greater control of their futures. As we approach our 20th year, the programme has supported over 3,500 people to take steps to leave homelessness behind for good.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 20, 2024 0:19:44 GMT
Was your mate a rough sleeper For a time, yes, but the Big Issue helped him get back on his feet. I've seen too many homeless people in my time, and in our age, there's no excuses.
Create workhouses.
A roof over their heads, warm beds, a chance to rebuild their lives, earn money, and recover.
When I'm in London you only have to step out of a tube station and there's destitution, right there in the streets of the capital.
It's absurd that the Victorians did better by the destitute, than we do.
And who was the architect of the undoing of social assistance? The Labour Party.
who was the architect of the undoing of social assistance? The Labour Party. What on earth do you mean by that |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 20, 2024 0:36:56 GMT
I mean they got rid of the best defence against homelessness (workhouses) and caused poverty.
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 20, 2024 0:42:53 GMT
I mean they got rid of the best defence against homelessness (workhouses) and caused poverty. [br So you think. Victorian workhouse are the best way to go Are you on your favourite hooch |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 20, 2024 1:01:56 GMT
The number of households in temporary accommodation was recorded at 104,510, also the highest on record. Rapidly rising rents and a lack of security means that there was a 27.4% increase in the number of households who faced homelessness due to a private rented tenancy coming to an end.13 Oct 2023 www.mungos.org › governm... Government figures show homelessness at record high .. Record high rough sleepers in London branded ‘devastating And who responsible for record high homeless you Bloody Brexit Where your paradise you keep going on.about |
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Post by Orac on Feb 20, 2024 8:10:50 GMT
The country is importing hundreds of thousands of effectively homeless people a year
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Post by sheepy on Feb 20, 2024 8:29:44 GMT
The country is importing hundreds of thousands of effectively homeless people a year Global innit, we must take our share, while said globalists work out more ways to make their own lives richer, yours will just have to wait, or probably if you just died a lot of problems would disappear. |
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Post by Orac on Feb 20, 2024 8:50:17 GMT
The country is importing hundreds of thousands of effectively homeless people a year Global innit, we must take our share, while said globalists work out more ways to make their own lives richer, yours will just have to wait, or probably if you just died a lot of problems would disappear. The people who run the things called countries presently, see everyone below them as 'undifferentiated peons they can pee on'. They feel the territory belongs to them and they will do what they want with it - the opinions of the serfs simply don't matter. |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 20, 2024 9:47:01 GMT
I mean they got rid of the best defence against homelessness (workhouses) and caused poverty. [br So you think. Victorian workhouse are the best way to go Are you on your favourite hooch Giving people a bed, food and work is better than having beggars dying on the streets. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 20, 2024 9:50:05 GMT
I mean they got rid of the best defence against homelessness (workhouses) and caused poverty. [br So you think. Victorian workhouse are the best way to go Are you on your favourite hooch He doesn’t want VICTORIAN workhouses you doofus . He wants MODERN workhouses . The clue was in the title . |
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