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Post by thomas on Feb 17, 2024 13:11:20 GMT
I bet this will ake you chuckle.....
There's a likelihood it will be come Labour policy. With a name like Gen Kitchen it sounds like she should be in charge of catering at the Labour conference. I was just reading on twitter about gen kitchen , the new labour mp for wellingborough. Apparently she spent 7 years in the charity sector ,with her last job running philanthropy for a children's health charity. Its been pointed out she knows how to spend money , but has no idea how to create money , and thus will make a fine labour mp..............
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Post by om15 on Feb 17, 2024 13:17:05 GMT
I am genuinely puzzled by all this, the electorate are completely exasperated by the Tory failure to maintain immigration controls, maintain law and order, maintain an independent Police Force, maintain standards of education and maintain a sound economy. So they are now going to vote for a Party that will exacerbate the problem ten fold. Everyone knows what a disaster Labour will be, we will have trade unions running the Country, open borders and will be back in the EU within five years, our economy will be trashed and every council will be run by Muslims, and we will have voted for that to punish the Tories, what a pickle.
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Post by patman post on Feb 17, 2024 13:49:11 GMT
The overriding theme of political comments I’m hearing in my social (mostly north London) and work circles (mostly City) is exasperation at rising prices and general disruption to health and transport services and frequent shortages of specific items and bulk goods.
I’ve noticed that many people of 35 and under are either totally turned off by the politics that’s run their lives for the past 14 years, or they’ll vote anything for a change.
I’ve no idea how that’s likely to pan out across the UK — though I won’t be surprised if Labour form the next government despite the predominant constant Tory propaganda of the majority of news media. And the most surprising aspect is the lack of worry a Labour win appears to be causing people I meet in finance and industry — some are actually factoring it in to their plans for 2025 on…
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Post by thomas on Feb 17, 2024 13:52:20 GMT
I am genuinely puzzled by all this, the electorate are completely exasperated by the Tory failure to maintain immigration controls, maintain law and order, maintain an independent Police Force, maintain standards of education and maintain a sound economy. So they are now going to vote for a Party that will exacerbate the problem ten fold. Everyone knows what a disaster Labour will be, we will have trade unions running the Country, open borders and will be back in the EU within five years, our economy will be trashed and every council will be run by Muslims, and we will have voted for that to punish the Tories, what a pickle. the electorate aren't going to vote for labour though om. The figures in this constituency , same as the Rutherglen by election , show labours vote barely moved from the 2019 general election. Whats happened is as I said earlier , people simply haven't bothered to turn out and vote for their normal parties , which has let the labour mob in. Clearly the vast majority of the electorate uk wide , some four fifths of them , have no appetite for a starmer led labour government , but clearly aren't happy with the snp and tories either. Perhaps this is what we need ,the short sharp shock of a disastrous starmer led labour government to bring everyone to their senses. I still think starmer polling lead is extremely soft , and im not convinced as yet the public are going to let him fall into power . I think these by election results are simply the public giving the snp and tories a small slap on the wrist for their failures , while clearly there is no great upswell in support for labour .
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Post by thomas on Feb 17, 2024 13:58:36 GMT
predominant constant Tory propaganda of the majority of news media. In scotland , it's the exact opposite , with the BBC at pacific quay and papers like the daily redcoat being propaganda mouthpieces for the Labour Party. Every interviewer of the labour branch manager sarwar , or his various Labour Party politicians in scotland , are completely devoid of any sort of scrutiny of his parties policies , and merely give labour a platform to spout their empty soundbites and dreary visions of a future labour government .
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Post by bancroft on Feb 17, 2024 14:00:04 GMT
I am genuinely puzzled by all this, the electorate are completely exasperated by the Tory failure to maintain immigration controls, maintain law and order, maintain an independent Police Force, maintain standards of education and maintain a sound economy. So they are now going to vote for a Party that will exacerbate the problem ten fold. Everyone knows what a disaster Labour will be, we will have trade unions running the Country, open borders and will be back in the EU within five years, our economy will be trashed and every council will be run by Muslims, and we will have voted for that to punish the Tories, what a pickle. The Tories are doing what they can within the UN (supra world govt framework) they stopped the biggest group of illegals - the Albanians. They are now battling the H of L. They will likely win though time may not be on Rishi's side, we will see.
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Post by patman post on Feb 17, 2024 14:25:12 GMT
predominant constant Tory propaganda of the majority of news media. In scotland , it's the exact opposite , with the BBC at pacific quay and papers like the daily redcoat being propaganda mouthpieces for the Labour Party. Every interviewer of the labour branch manager sarwar , or his various Labour Party politicians in scotland , are completely devoid of any sort of scrutiny of his parties policies , and merely give labour a platform to spout their empty soundbites and dreary visions of a future labour government . One thing that I’ve noticed about the 1997 election and its run up, was Blair’s continual criticism of the Tories and their complaints that there were no new definitive and precise plans from New Labour. This didn’t ultimately hamper Labour as it romped home in a decisive landslide. And while I’m noticing increased criticism of Starmer and Labour by Tory mouthpieces, I’m also aware of the public’s lessening interest in party politics and a growing general dissatisfaction with the way the country is being governed. If this is happening across the UK, I don’t see the Tories getting a straight win in the coming election…
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Post by thomas on Feb 17, 2024 14:36:37 GMT
In scotland , it's the exact opposite , with the BBC at pacific quay and papers like the daily redcoat being propaganda mouthpieces for the Labour Party. Every interviewer of the labour branch manager sarwar , or his various Labour Party politicians in scotland , are completely devoid of any sort of scrutiny of his parties policies , and merely give labour a platform to spout their empty soundbites and dreary visions of a future labour government . One thing that I’ve noticed about the 1997 election and its run up, was Blair’s continual criticism of the Tories and their complaints that there were no new definitive and precise plans from New Labour. This didn’t ultimately hamper Labour as it romped home in a decisive landslide. And while I’m noticing increased criticism of Starmer and Labour by Tory mouthpieces, I’m also aware of the public’s lessening interest in party politics and a growing general dissatisfaction with the way the country is being governed. If this is happening across the UK, I don’t see the Tories getting a straight win in the coming election… I voted for Blair in 1997 , but the political ground across scotland and the wider uk was much much different back then to what it is now. It was a straight forward win for Blair , as the entire uk had had enough of 17 long years of tory governance. I understand your comparison with voters having had enough of this current lot , but that's as far as comparisons go. Blair simply had to turn up on the day , not disembowel a baby live on tv , and romp home to victory. Starmer doesn't have such luxury. Blair didnt have the elephants sitting in the room of Brexit , scot indy , mass uncontrolled immigration and all the other major issues that currently plague the political world. This is 2024 , not 1997 , and starmer is certainly no Tony Blair , however much I came to despise the man , I still vaguely admired his political ability and cunning. Whats happening across the uk as ive said umpteen times now is starmers labours vote share has stood still since 2019 , he hasn't taken them forward , the way kinnock and smith took labours vote share forward before handing it to Tony Blair on a plate. ( who then went on to lose labour 4 million voters....) Whats happening is in polls and these by elections , either snp and tory voters aren't responding to polls , or they are sitting at home on by election day and the labour vote is turning out and winning. That may hand him the keys to Downing Street on the day , but as I said , he will have the weakest mandate to govern of any government in modern uk history.
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 17, 2024 15:28:09 GMT
So no London streets were renamed to honour a suffragette. But the London Overground collection of lines that confused the Tube map have been given names and colours to make them easier for passengers to follow and plan journeys. The names chosen may not be favoured by everyone, and perhaps the mayor/TfL missed a PR opportunity in this election year by not going for wider public participation in the choices, but does this really matter to the rest of the travelling public…? For decades we have got around London with no problem - now Khan wants to spend £6 Million giving daft names to railway lines - just imagine how many potholes that could fill...
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