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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2024 21:41:31 GMT
Not sure I shall stay up tonight, or even if the results will be available before the morning.
Will be really interesting to see the current state of the electorate, how they react to recent events. The Tories will surely get a real shoeing.
I heard there are 24,000 postal votes in Rochdale. That seems like about 1/3 of the electorate!
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Post by jonksy on Feb 15, 2024 21:47:10 GMT
Not sure I shall stay up tonight, or even if the results will be available before the morning. Will be really interesting to see the current state of the electorate, how they react to recent events. The Tories will surely get a real shoeing. I heard there are 24,000 postal votes in Rochdale. That seems like about 1/3 of the electorate! Not sure what the weather is like in both those arreas but it it has been pissing down here all day... |
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Post by Steve on Feb 15, 2024 21:47:57 GMT
Let's hope we don't get a myriad of pointless duplicate threads
These should be impossible to lose seats for the Tories but they have so effed up anything could happen but that said I'll predict they hold both
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Post by dappy on Feb 15, 2024 21:50:37 GMT
The Rochdale by-election is not for a couple of weeks.
Kings wood today
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2024 21:54:10 GMT
The Rochdale by-election is not for a couple of weeks. Kings wood today Thanks, my mistake! |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 15, 2024 21:56:51 GMT
The Rochdale by-election is not for a couple of weeks. Kings wood today Thanks, my mistake! Easily done mate.....Question time seems to be lively according to the DE..
BBC Question Time audience member skewers Labour over 'track record' of U-turns....
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Post by Steve on Feb 15, 2024 21:58:43 GMT
The Rochdale by-election is not for a couple of weeks. Kings wood today And Wellingborough |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 15, 2024 22:23:47 GMT
Mod Notice
I have changed the title of the thread to reflect todays elections
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 16, 2024 0:23:46 GMT
I noted a comment on the BBC website I feel might be worth pursuing. Back in 1983 when I was briefly helping the gang of four cripple Michael Foot's Militant Tendency and if course again in 2010 and 2011 guidance issued to me by returning officers was pretty categoric in regard to candidates alone being allowed to wear rosettes on election day and the rosettes were only allowed to give the party name. So a rosette with 'Labour' or 'The Labour Party' was ok but one saying 'vote labour' was an inducement, and a breach of electoral law
Perhaps things have changed or perhaps those returning officers were economical with the actualite
Because the BBC page comment I recently captured stated one of those counts was ready to receive the ballots but no candidate was present, only their agents, wearing rosettes......
And I think that just might be a breach of electoral law.
Wouldn't that be amusing .....
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Post by jonksy on Feb 16, 2024 2:39:29 GMT
Labour overturns 11,200 Tory majority to win at Kingswood by-election...... The Conservatives have suffered a by-election defeat in Kingswood, near Bristol - with Labour candidate Damien Egan winning the seat after overcoming a majority of more than 11,000. Mr Egan, who stepped down as mayor of Lewisham in north London to stand for the seat, was elected after winning 11,176 votes, beating Tory candidate Sam Bromiley by a margin of 2,501 after he received 8,675 votes.
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Post by sheepy on Feb 16, 2024 8:17:25 GMT
Let's hope we don't get a myriad of pointless duplicate threads These should be impossible to lose seats for the Tories but they have so effed up anything could happen but that said I'll predict they hold both But then, everyone was told from the start this was the plan by the establishment that they would take the sting out of the majority and bring power back amongst themselves, where you get what they decide is good for you. Removing your choice. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2024 10:02:41 GMT
Let's hope we don't get a myriad of pointless duplicate threads These should be impossible to lose seats for the Tories but they have so effed up anything could happen but that said I'll predict they hold both But then, everyone was told from the start this was the plan by the establishment that they would take the sting out of the majority and bring power back amongst themselves, where you get what they decide is good for you. Removing your choice. I think it' is true. Has the "Westminster" party ever been stronger? Just wait till next year. Just a note about turnout, which was 38% in Wellingborough and 37% in Kingswood, leaving a lot of scope for disgruntled electors to change things a bit at the next real election. Another point: In Wellingborough Reform + Tories would have still lost to Labour. In Kingswood, Reform + Tories would have just beat Labour, so the Tories need to fear Reform, as they just lost them Kingswood. |
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Post by Steve on Feb 16, 2024 10:29:44 GMT
Let's hope we don't get a myriad of pointless duplicate threads These should be impossible to lose seats for the Tories but they have so effed up anything could happen but that said I'll predict they hold bothWell I got that well wrong |
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Post by dappy on Feb 16, 2024 10:55:53 GMT
The collapse of the Tory Government continues. Apparently they have now lost more by-elections in one parliament than any other in 50 years.
Few will have been surprised at Labour winning both seats however, so impact relatively limited.
Biggest disappointment will be Reform. Wellingborough was ideal for them, they threw a big name (by their standards) at it, ideal opportunity for a protest vote, talked up doing very well, maybe even a shock win, certainly beating the Tories into second but they crashed and burned. While noisy because they have full tabloid support does suggest there is a fairly low ceiling for their policies. More seriously they need Farage but Farage is not up for tying himself to another losing horse. He is smart enough to work out that his best option now is do the minimum now and then seek to be part of the winning side in the post election Tory civil war.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2024 11:14:57 GMT
I don't call getting 1 in 8 of the voters "crash and burn". No, that was for the LibDem Ana Savage Gunn who lost her deposit.
In both by elections more than 60% voted for "none of the above".
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