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Post by Bentley on Feb 14, 2024 16:50:37 GMT
The cult of changing genitalia seems to be still going strong . Lefties aren’t bothered about religion . They are bothered by anyone not spreading the leftie message .
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Feb 14, 2024 17:58:58 GMT
Maybe the government should order the removal of homophobia from the Holy Books and make it illegal to possess Bibles and Korans, etc. that have homophobia in them? If this were to happen there would still be subtle references to homosexuality in the Old Testament that are not homophobic.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2024 18:05:26 GMT
I'd advise strongly against the government attempting to re-write scripture. I would advise the government to consider whether their laws are in line with scripture,
After all, theft and murder are straight out of the 10 commandments.
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 14, 2024 19:37:42 GMT
Live your own life and let others live their life, just as long as no one preaches or promotes hatred towards others. The number 1 belief in Britain today in terms of Religion is "No Faith", partly because people believe religion is a load of nonsense, partly because people believe that religion is a cause of war and hatred, and partly because many think of Church services as old fashioned, outdated and damned right bloody boring. Then there's the extremists and fanatics, the Evangelicals who preach Homophobia, the Muslims who think a womans place is behind her man, the Jews who want to wipe out the Palestinians. By far the very best nation in Europe when it comes to faith is France In France, religion, religious preaching and religious symbols of every kind are banned from all government establishments, schools, libraries, universities, court houses and town halls. In France, the principal of Freedom Of Religion is strongly upheld ( in a truly secular society ), but your faith is for your home or for your Church, Synagogue, Mosque or Temple. You are talking from the perspective of a sensible moderate, and when it comes to religion I suspect the majority of people whether in the UK or France who claim to be religious, are indeed sensible and moderate. Unless of course you're talking about Muslims/Islam, the followers of which have on many occasions shown themselves to be very intolerant and aggressive. How many Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jews, etc etc openly and aggressively demand that some poor sod should be killed for uttering something they claim is blasphemous? That's right, none. Regardless of whether we're talking about Pakistan, the UK or France, this sort of religious violence is a uniquely Muslim/Islamic trait. |
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Post by dappy on Feb 14, 2024 19:42:35 GMT
Didn’t you say you once worked for the security forces in Northern Ireland Red?
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 14, 2024 19:56:37 GMT
Didn’t you say you once worked for the security forces in Northern Ireland Red? No. On occasion civilians worked for the security forces, soldiers 'are' the security forces. |
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Post by dappy on Feb 14, 2024 20:10:34 GMT
Same thing surely Red. A stagecoach bus driver is integral to Stagecoach delivering the service they provide. They take a wage in exchange for giving their time to do what those people employed to be at the top of Stagecoach tell them to. Without them the Stagecoach operation wouldn’t operate. Exactly the same when you worked in Northern Ireland. Most people would say the Stagecoach driver worked for Stagecoach. Few surely would claim that they “are Stagecoach”. I struggle to understand your point.
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Post by buccaneer on Feb 14, 2024 20:46:22 GMT
Live your own life and let others live their life, just as long as no one preaches or promotes hatred towards others. The number 1 belief in Britain today in terms of Religion is "No Faith", partly because people believe religion is a load of nonsense, partly because people believe that religion is a cause of war and hatred, and partly because many think of Church services as old fashioned, outdated and damned right bloody boring. Then there's the extremists and fanatics, the Evangelicals who preach Homophobia, the Muslims who think a womans place is behind her man, the Jews who want to wipe out the Palestinians. By far the very best nation in Europe when it comes to faith is France In France, religion, religious preaching and religious symbols of every kind are banned from all government establishments, schools, libraries, universities, court houses and town halls. In France, the principal of Freedom Of Religion is strongly upheld ( in a truly secular society ), but your faith is for your home or for your Church, Synagogue, Mosque or Temple. You are talking from the perspective of a sensible moderate, and when it comes to religion I suspect the majority of people whether in the UK or France who claim to be religious, are indeed sensible and moderate. Unless of course you're talking about Muslims/Islam, the followers of which have on many occasions shown themselves to be very intolerant and aggressive. How many Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jews, etc etc openly and aggressively demand that some poor sod should be killed for uttering something they claim is blasphemous? That's right, none. Regardless of whether we're talking about Pakistan, the UK or France, this sort of religious violence is a uniquely Muslim/Islamic trait. That's where the Islamo-lefts quagmire starts and its one square they'll never be able to circle. The left faction allegedly preach 'tolerance' *cough" of others, and towards Muslims and multiculturalism, the LBGTQ+++++ and defending Muslim conspiracy theories about Israel etc . Then turn the other cheek when intolerant, aggressive Islamists go on killing sprees for depicting their prophet, and throwing gays off buildings. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2024 21:00:24 GMT
Same thing surely Red. A stagecoach bus driver is integral to Stagecoach delivering the service they provide. They take a wage in exchange for giving their time to do what those people employed to be at the top of Stagecoach tell them to. Without them the Stagecoach operation wouldn’t operate. Exactly the same when you worked in Northern Ireland. Most people would say the Stagecoach driver worked for Stagecoach. Few surely would claim that they “are Stagecoach”. I struggle to understand your point. Why are you hijacking the thread? |
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Post by Ripley on Feb 14, 2024 21:05:05 GMT
Live your own life and let others live their life, just as long as no one preaches or promotes hatred towards others. The number 1 belief in Britain today in terms of Religion is "No Faith", partly because people believe religion is a load of nonsense, partly because people believe that religion is a cause of war and hatred, and partly because many think of Church services as old fashioned, outdated and damned right bloody boring. Then there's the extremists and fanatics, the Evangelicals who preach Homophobia, the Muslims who think a womans place is behind her man, the Jews who want to wipe out the Palestinians. By far the very best nation in Europe when it comes to faith is France In France, religion, religious preaching and religious symbols of every kind are banned from all government establishments, schools, libraries, universities, court houses and town halls. In France, the principal of Freedom Of Religion is strongly upheld ( in a truly secular society ), but your faith is for your home or for your Church, Synagogue, Mosque or Temple. Nice to see you're back. The problem with restricted and conditional freedom of speech is that it is not freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is not unrestricted speech. "Under Article 10 of the Human Rights Act 1998, “everyone has the right to freedom of expression” in the UK. The law goes on to say that this freedom “may be subject to formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society." care.org.uk/cause/religious-liberty/free-speech-law |
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Post by witchfinder on Feb 14, 2024 22:11:00 GMT
Live your own life and let others live their life, just as long as no one preaches or promotes hatred towards others. The number 1 belief in Britain today in terms of Religion is "No Faith", partly because people believe religion is a load of nonsense, partly because people believe that religion is a cause of war and hatred, and partly because many think of Church services as old fashioned, outdated and damned right bloody boring. Then there's the extremists and fanatics, the Evangelicals who preach Homophobia, the Muslims who think a womans place is behind her man, the Jews who want to wipe out the Palestinians. By far the very best nation in Europe when it comes to faith is France In France, religion, religious preaching and religious symbols of every kind are banned from all government establishments, schools, libraries, universities, court houses and town halls. In France, the principal of Freedom Of Religion is strongly upheld ( in a truly secular society ), but your faith is for your home or for your Church, Synagogue, Mosque or Temple. You are talking from the perspective of a sensible moderate, and when it comes to religion I suspect the majority of people whether in the UK or France who claim to be religious, are indeed sensible and moderate. Unless of course you're talking about Muslims/Islam, the followers of which have on many occasions shown themselves to be very intolerant and aggressive. How many Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jews, etc etc openly and aggressively demand that some poor sod should be killed for uttering something they claim is blasphemous? That's right, none. Regardless of whether we're talking about Pakistan, the UK or France, this sort of religious violence is a uniquely Muslim/Islamic trait. Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh ... Is an organisation you have probably never heard of, it is an Hindu extremist organisation in India. There are several such Hindu nationalist / orthodox / extremist organisations, and they believe for example that India should not be a secular, multi faith nation. They believe that the Indian flag should not have the two prominent colours of Saffron and Green, representing Hinduism and Islam. Abhinav Bharat ... Another Hindu militant organisation, accussed of been involved in bombings, terrorism, stirring up hatred and tensions with Muslims. In Israel there are various underground Jewish extremist groups, one of which is "The Revolt", responsible for dozens of arson attacks on both Churches and Mosques. Within Christianity there are hundreds of extremist organisations and denominations, in much of Africa even the Anglican and Roman Catholic Churches refuse to accept or entertain gay men, they are hounded out, driven out, often beaten up, tortured and worse. What of the persecution of the Rohingya people in Burma, driven from their homes, massacred and tortured by the Buddhist majority because they are a different faith. You singled out Muslims, and their biggest gripe for decades for Muslims has been the treatment of the Palestinian people, the root cause of just about all Islamic extremist terror attacks. No terrorist attack on any innocent people can ever be justified, but as in South Africa, and in Northern Ireland, take away the injustices, solve the issues, and take away the justification for the terrorism. TWO STATE SOLUTION ? |
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Post by dappy on Feb 14, 2024 22:29:19 GMT
Same thing surely Red. A stagecoach bus driver is integral to Stagecoach delivering the service they provide. They take a wage in exchange for giving their time to do what those people employed to be at the top of Stagecoach tell them to. Without them the Stagecoach operation wouldn’t operate. Exactly the same when you worked in Northern Ireland. Most people would say the Stagecoach driver worked for Stagecoach. Few surely would claim that they “are Stagecoach”. I struggle to understand your point. Why are you hijacking the thread? I don’t think I was. Red claimed that only the Muslim faith carried out violence against people from other religions. I reminded him that he used to work in Northern Ireland where people of catholic faith killed people of Protestant faith because they were protestants and vice versa. He should be well aware he was talking nonsense. His rather weird response was that he didn’t work for his employer, he “was” his employer. I thought that needed challenge. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 14, 2024 22:35:17 GMT
Why are you hijacking the thread? I don’t think I was. Red claimed that only the Muslim faith carried out violence against people from other religions. I reminded him that he used to work in Northern Ireland where people of catholic faith killed people of Protestant faith because they were protestants and vice versa. He should be well aware he was talking nonsense. His rather weird response was that he didn’t work for his employer, he “was” his employer. I thought that needed challenge. 1) you don’t really believe that the troubles in NI was about religious doctrine do you ? 2) he never said he was his employer . |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 14, 2024 22:47:31 GMT
Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh ... Is an organisation you have probably never heard of, it is an Hindu extremist organisation in India. There are several such Hindu nationalist / orthodox / extremist organisations, and they believe for example that India should not be a secular, multi faith nation. They believe that the Indian flag should not have the two prominent colours of Saffron and Green, representing Hinduism and Islam. Abhinav Bharat ... Another Hindu militant organisation, accussed of been involved in bombings, terrorism, stirring up hatred and tensions with Muslims. In Israel there are various underground Jewish extremist groups, one of which is "The Revolt", responsible for dozens of arson attacks on both Churches and Mosques. Within Christianity there are hundreds of extremist organisations and denominations, in much of Africa even the Anglican and Roman Catholic Churches refuse to accept or entertain gay men, they are hounded out, driven out, often beaten up, tortured and worse. What of the persecution of the Rohingya people in Burma, driven from their homes, massacred and tortured by the Buddhist majority because they are a different faith. You singled out Muslims, and their biggest gripe for decades for Muslims has been the treatment of the Palestinian people, the root cause of just about all Islamic extremist terror attacks. No terrorist attack on any innocent people can ever be justified, but as in South Africa, and in Northern Ireland, take away the injustices, solve the issues, and take away the justification for the terrorism. TWO STATE SOLUTION ? We were talking about the UK and France rather than the rest of the world, however I am very aware that religion brings out the worst in people regardless of denomination, as I have said before, the more ignorant the flock the more devout they tend to be. Christianity and Islam are the two biggest religions in the world, yet I cant help thinking that Christianity has moved on, whereas Islam is rooted in the middle ages. Have you ever heard of a group of Christians demonstrating outside a school and demanding the death of a teacher who dared to mention 'Jesus'? No, me neither. I think you know where this is going. For the record, my father was in the parachute regiment and saw service in Palestine and India, both his sons saw service in Northern Ireland. A two state solution is a nonsense, Iran have vowed to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Islam is incompatible with anything other than Islam. |
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Post by dappy on Feb 14, 2024 22:51:33 GMT
I don’t think I was. Red claimed that only the Muslim faith carried out violence against people from other religions. I reminded him that he used to work in Northern Ireland where people of catholic faith killed people of Protestant faith because they were protestants and vice versa. He should be well aware he was talking nonsense. His rather weird response was that he didn’t work for his employer, he “was” his employer. I thought that needed challenge. 1) you don’t really believe that the troubles in NI was about religious doctrine do you ? 2) he never said he was his employer . People in NI differentiated themselves based on their religion and discriminated against and in the most extreme cases sought to kill the other tribe. Some people of Muslim faith differentiate themselves from say people of Christian faith and seek to discriminate against and in the most extreme cases seek to kill them. It’s exactly the same. Red worked for the security services - in his case the Army in Northern Ireland just as a Stagecoach bus driver in Stafford works for Stagecoach. Red claimed he is the security service. That’s weird just as it would be weird for our driver to claim he is Stagecoach. |
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