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Post by Vinny on Feb 11, 2024 19:09:58 GMT
Because dictatorphile Putin supporters in Yank land have put the block on aid.
They're still fighting for their fucking lives, they're still resisting genocide.
I can't believe how cowardly your arguments have become.
Go live in a dictatorship.
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Post by bancroft on Feb 13, 2024 11:24:57 GMT
It's a matter of whether they survive as an independent sovereign country. And the only hope they have of survival as an independent sovereign country is by fighting. That fucking paedophile in the Kremlin needs to be defeated, too right it's not a fucking game, it's life or death and unless we give Ukraine the assistance they need, more and more will lose their lives to that bastard nonce Putin. Uranians aren't getting anywhere. The border has remained almost identical in the last year. Some British top bigwig in the army now says the only way it can be done is if Nato goes in there themselves to fight. Fancy getting shot at by Russians? A NATO war is a nuclear war, let's not kid ourselves. Stalin ruled most of Europe because FDR was declining in health and distrusted Churchill and the British Empire so Stalin kept what he took on the ground in Eastern Europe and the Baltics. By the time the Iron Curtain went up FDR was dead and the penny had dropped that the Soviets were going to be a strong adversary. Especially after US scientists covertly gave the secrets of nuclear weapons to the Soviets. Ukraine has shown Russia it cannot walk all over Europe even if it wanted to, the fall back is Nukes. Vinny would you give Zelensky nukes to stop 'genocide'?
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Post by Vinny on Feb 13, 2024 11:42:30 GMT
No, I would give Zelenskyy 20,000 HIMARS rockets including 5,000 ATACAMS rockets. I would give him, hundreds of tanks. A million artillery shells. Enough munitions to drive out the invaders. Because once Putin loses in Ukraine, Russia will turn on Putin and his cronies, and kill them. Once that happens, it's an opportunity to say to his replacement, work with us. End the animosity.
Lets stop pointing nukes at each other.
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Post by bancroft on Feb 13, 2024 20:13:53 GMT
I disagree i think Russian nationalists controlling the nukes will go full MAD and then good-bye Europe, Astralasia, Israel and most of North America. From their view-point the Swedes attacked them in the 18th C, the French in the 19th C, the Germans in the 20th C. In the 90s they could have gone nuclear yet instead consented to let a number of former nations choose to go over to the West. Ukraine was split by ethnicity and also religion and had fuel debt with Russia I think Oliver Stone had it right, the Neocons went after the Middle East and the Dems wanted to bring Russia to its knees using the corrupt (according to the EU) Ukraine. The border has hardly moved over the last year and now we have failed politicians and colonels nobody has heard of saying we need to mobilise 800,000 to fight Russia. 2 mins of reflection www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDLS12_a-fk
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