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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 10, 2024 19:07:10 GMT
When you say east Asia, you have to be fairly selective. For instance, the economic impact of lets say... Pakistanis compared to Indians, is very different. East Asia China ,Vietnam etc Pakistan and Bangladesh are east Asia.
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Post by wapentake on Feb 10, 2024 19:29:33 GMT
East Asia China ,Vietnam etc Pakistan and Bangladesh are east Asia. No they aren’t. link
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 10, 2024 19:53:10 GMT
Wap, yes indeed you're correct. East Asia = China, Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Mongolia, Republic of Korea. South Asia = Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Maldives, Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka. Mainland Southeast Asia = Cambodia, Lao People's Democratic Republic, Myanmar, Thailand, Viet Nam. www.fao.org/aquastat/en/countries-and-basins/regional-overviews/southern-eastern-asiaTbh, I'm surprised Pakistan is considered to be South Asia however, there you go.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Feb 11, 2024 0:53:16 GMT
I recently read that immigrants from a small Ghanaian tribe have the highest IQ of any ethnic group in the US.
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 11, 2024 1:38:33 GMT
Yeah have seen things like this before,the studies are based on brain size with sub Saharan’s the smaller and lower IQ.. If this is all correct the top people would in fact not be white either but people from east Asia . IQ and intelligence are not the same. The quotient bit refers to fitting in with your environment I don’t know about the Harvard claim. But there’s a photo out there in cyberspace with Einstein, Bohr, and a whole load of other genius level guys. If you dig hard enough you’ll see it. No women and very few inverse video characters. Personally i’m of the opinion that photo reflected the access available at the time. In my own time in academic circles a similar photo of a group at the top of their peer range would have looked very different, even by 1980 there would have been many women and a broad range of skin tones. Today ? I've no idea.
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 11, 2024 1:55:56 GMT
I recently read that immigrants from a small Ghanaian tribe have the highest IQ of any ethnic group in the US. The Institute for Applied Psychometrics estimate an average IQ of 61 for Ghana. [100 av for UK] West African countries have some of the lowest IQ's in the world. Of course there are various methods of assessing IQ, and IQ will differ within ages ranges. But West Africa, indeed Africa as a whole doesn't appear to be overly blessed when it comes to IQ and tbh, that should come as no surprise. Hey they wanted independence.
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Post by piglet on Feb 11, 2024 11:32:42 GMT
Marilyn Monroe had a higher IQ than Einstein. Its not what youve got but how you use it. Monroes interest in how the world works was probably nil. Maybe her popularity with men had something to do with it, and that to hit the sack with her, to understate, was probably very good. In my opinion she wast that good looking, shes even ordinary, but she hit it big time in Hollywood, became an icon.
Genius?, i think so.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 11, 2024 12:48:58 GMT
Marilyn Monroe had a higher IQ than Einstein. Its not what youve got but how you use it. Monroes interest in how the world works was probably nil. Maybe her popularity with men had something to do with it, and that to hit the sack with her, to understate, was probably very good. In my opinion she wast that good looking, shes even ordinary, but she hit it big time in Hollywood, became an icon. Genius?, i think so. Probably not true. www.snopes.com/fact-check/marilyn-monroe-iq/
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 11, 2024 15:37:02 GMT
Yeah have seen things like this before,the studies are based on brain size with sub Saharan’s the smaller and lower IQ.. If this is all correct the top people would in fact not be white either but people from east Asia . IQ and intelligence are not the same. The quotient bit refers to fitting in with your environment I don’t know about the Harvard claim. But there’s a photo out there in cyberspace with Einstein, Bohr, and a whole load of other genius level guys. If you dig hard enough you’ll see it. No women and very few inverse video characters. Personally i’m of the opinion that photo reflected the access available at the time. In my own time in academic circles a similar photo of a group at the top of their peer range would have looked very different, even by 1980 there would have been many women and a broad range of skin tones. Today ? I've no idea. Harvard was not the place though. It was the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton. Even Bertrand Russell used to hang out there.
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 11, 2024 15:45:16 GMT
IQ and intelligence are not the same. The quotient bit refers to fitting in with your environment I don’t know about the Harvard claim. But there’s a photo out there in cyberspace with Einstein, Bohr, and a whole load of other genius level guys. If you dig hard enough you’ll see it. No women and very few inverse video characters. Personally i’m of the opinion that photo reflected the access available at the time. In my own time in academic circles a similar photo of a group at the top of their peer range would have looked very different, even by 1980 there would have been many women and a broad range of skin tones. Today ? I've no idea. Harvard was not the place though. It was the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton. Even Bertrand Russell used to hang out there. OK to be fair i was never fully conversant with the ins and outs of the american academic pyramid even back in the 80's where some of its output held us in awe for our ideas and progress. But i take it you get the picture i was trying to paint. Even in the 1980's a "team photo" at a major scientific gathering would have garnered more women and a wider assortment of skin tones than one from the days prior to world war one or world war two, and that those people present in such a phtograph would be there on merit
Admission policy today though ... is another thing altogether. As is the expectation that travelling to a site of acknowledged learning and paying a lot of money to join the ranls of the learned gives you some phony "right" to take a job in that country afterwards instead of taking your newly learned skills back to the shithole you came from and raising the standards in that society instead
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 11, 2024 16:50:19 GMT
Harvard was not the place though. It was the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton. Even Bertrand Russell used to hang out there. OK to be fair i was never fully conversant with the ins and outs of the american academic pyramid even back in the 80's where some of its output held us in awe for our ideas and progress. But i take it you get the picture i was trying to paint. Even in the 1980's a "team photo" at a major scientific gathering would have garnered more women and a wider assortment of skin tones than one from the days prior to world war one or world war two, and that those people present in such a phtograph would be there on merit
Admission policy today though ... is another thing altogether. As is the expectation that travelling to a site of acknowledged learning and paying a lot of money to join the ranls of the learned gives you some phony "right" to take a job in that country afterwards instead of taking your newly learned skills back to the shithole you came from and raising the standards in that society instead
In the historical accounts of the IAS it was all men. One of the biggest brains of the lot was John von Neumann. They all hung out together and went to big parties ad other social events. It was just the place to be, so all the famous quantum mechanics from Europe also joined in. It was one of the most productive places for science on the planet.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Feb 12, 2024 18:48:39 GMT
What seems to have been missed, not least by the OP, is what Professor Angela Breitenbach didn't say:
She didn't say that Cofnas was wrong.
She didn't say, as might be expected, that the faculty "Strives to be a leader of academic excellence".
She did say that: “...The faculty strives to be a leader in defending equality and fostering inclusion...”
Which is pretty much exactly what Cofnas said, albeit in different words.
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