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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Feb 7, 2024 1:05:07 GMT
My parents and both my brothers had contact with Jimmy Savile from his time at Stoke Mandeville. One brother was a nurse there and the other was a porter. My parents became acquainted with Savile when they attended social events there.
Here's a story for you:
Savile would spend hours in the morgue waiting for a call for a body to be taken from a ward. On more than one occasion he and my porter brother would collect a body. Savile would then disappear into the depths of the morgue. The next day he would be seen walking around the hospital with a "disturbed" look on his face. Ignoring people if they greeted him.
Savile had a room in the hospital living quarters where he entertained "under-age" girls. He would turn up late at night with a girl on each arm and introduce them to people they happened to meet on the way to his room. The fact that he "liked them young" was well known. The attitude was " as long as they were willing" it was OK.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Feb 7, 2024 5:41:06 GMT
A Thatcher TV interview in 1978
She came across as an intelligent, "attractive" even, "normal" human being ... until:
"What would you do if the miners went on strike and tried to bring down the government, as they did with Edward Heath?" asked the interviewer.
Thatcher's head jerked around to look at the camera, her eyes had a look of extreme menace in them, her mouth opened and a weird, guttural voice, very different from her normal voice, said:
"Well! One doesn't apply one's FINAL SOLUTION until one's tried everything else!"
She then turned to the interviewer and finished up with:
"DOES ONE!?"
... causing him to rock back in his seat.
Next day the streets were populated with grinning "Thatcher worshippers".
... who I annoyed by walking around with a large badge on my jacket which read:
"Thatcher is a Russian spy".
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 7, 2024 7:25:57 GMT
If only the Miners had watched that interview - they could have saved themselves a lot of strife.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 7, 2024 9:52:53 GMT
We don’t have to be sceptical . There is a huge amount of evidence to support the allegations . He was a nonce . I was reading some of it earlier from the Mail. Apparently Rossi heard people say things. You have to bear in mind half the stuff jimmy was saying were jokes. Regarding the tarts at Top of the Pops, he was just being crude. Every star has backstage groupies. The girls loved the special treatment. Tart can also mean to look impressive, as in tarted up. The Mail is treating us as idiots. It’s not just the mail. There are allegations from everywhere Saville was and across decades . |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Feb 7, 2024 10:45:50 GMT
There was a time back in the 70s when it as not uncommon for good looking men in their 20s and 30s to be accosted in the street by groups of underage girls. This would happen in broad daylight .. with the public not being the slightest bit bothered. There was even a newspaper article about a social worker's suggestion that parents should allow their children to watch them having sex ... with a cartoon depicting them doing it. Parents of sexually active underage girls were encouraged to get them on the pill. The concern wasn't about them having sex it about them getting pregnant. Roman Polanski had a flat in London where he held parties.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2024 13:38:01 GMT
I met Saville at the Northampton Association of Youth Clubs (NAYC) in 1973. He met us as a group who were embarking on a youth expedition to Sweden and Finnish Lapland to the land of the midnight sun.
I still have a photo card which he gave me when meeting him. He signed it with his initials and a smiley face.
He was, as always, flamboyant, and eccentric, but I never really guessed he was a pervert.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Feb 7, 2024 14:41:55 GMT
There was a time back in the 70s when it as not uncommon for good looking men in their 20s and 30s to be accosted in the street by groups of underage girls. This would happen in broad daylight .. with the public not being the slightest bit bothered. There was even a newspaper article about a social worker's suggestion that parents should allow their children to watch them having sex ... with a cartoon depicting them doing it. Parents of sexually active underage girls were encouraged to get them on the pill. The concern wasn't about them having sex it about them getting pregnant. Roman Polanski had a flat in London where he held parties. One alleged abuse was with some young girls where Jimmy was talking to them about Noel Edmunds and how he would be jealous if they preferred to marry Noel as opposed to him. Accusers on here should watch that clip because Jimmy was very skilful in putting it across in an entertaining way which was on their level without being crude. Anyone who watches that and is suspicious of Jimmy should get their head looked at because they have the problem, not him. It's the hyper-feminist - all men are rapists mindset which does it.
One reason I believe Jimmy was hated by these feminists is because he epitomised the father-child relationship. Children need a male role model and they are denied it in today's fascist women's lib society. Feminists exploit women's naturally protective nature towards children and use it to smear men. He was kind of stealing the limelight from their uber-feminist programme.
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Post by Handyman on Feb 7, 2024 15:36:49 GMT
I was reading some of it earlier from the Mail. Apparently Rossi heard people say things. You have to bear in mind half the stuff jimmy was saying were jokes. Regarding the tarts at Top of the Pops, he was just being crude. Every star has backstage groupies. The girls loved the special treatment. Tart can also mean to look impressive, as in tarted up. The Mail is treating us as idiots. It’s not just the mail. There are allegations from everywhere Saville was and across decades . Yes there were lots of rumours over the years he did rub shoulders with Royalty and Politicians due to his Charity work but I doubt if they were actual friends acquaintances yes ,he could have been taken to task back in 2009 when Surrey Police submitted a Case File to the CPS relating to Sexual Assault on a child. However due to the age of the victim and vulnerability the CPS could not proceed no victim able or competent or willing to give evidence no charges can be brought. He allegedly sexually 20 children under the age of 10 years and 10 boys even an adult Nurse who refused to give evidence After his death the Met Police and other Police Forces as part of Operation Yew Tree conducted a full investigation which identified over 300 of his victims, as very few came forward whilst he was alive it was not possible to arrest or charge or him, the NHS also mounted a full investigation as well. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 7, 2024 15:46:35 GMT
There was a time back in the 70s when it as not uncommon for good looking men in their 20s and 30s to be accosted in the street by groups of underage girls. This would happen in broad daylight .. with the public not being the slightest bit bothered. There was even a newspaper article about a social worker's suggestion that parents should allow their children to watch them having sex ... with a cartoon depicting them doing it. Parents of sexually active underage girls were encouraged to get them on the pill. The concern wasn't about them having sex it about them getting pregnant. Roman Polanski had a flat in London where he held parties. One alleged abuse was with some young girls where Jimmy was talking to them about Noel Edmunds and how he would be jealous if they preferred to marry Noel as opposed to him. Accusers on here should watch that clip because Jimmy was very skilful in putting it across in an entertaining way which was on their level without being crude. Anyone who watches that and is suspicious of Jimmy should get their head looked at because they have the problem, not him. It's the hyper-feminist - all men are rapists mindset which does it.
One reason I believe Jimmy was hated by these feminists is because he epitomised the father-child relationship. Children need a male role model and they are denied it in today's fascist women's lib society. Feminists exploit women's naturally protective nature towards children and use it to smear men. He was kind of stealing the limelight from their uber-feminist programme.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 7, 2024 15:53:19 GMT
It’s not just the mail. There are allegations from everywhere Saville was and across decades . Yes there were lots of rumours over the years he did rub shoulders with Royalty and Politicians due to his Charity work but I doubt if they were actual friends acquaintances yes ,he could have been taken to task back in 2009 when Surrey Police submitted a Case File to the CPS relating to Sexual Assault on a child. However due to the age of the victim and vulnerability the CPS could not proceed no victim able or competent or willing to give evidence no charges can be brought. He allegedly sexually 20 children under the age of 10 years and 10 boys even an adult Nurse who refused to give evidence After his death the Met Police and other Police Forces as part of Operation Yew Tree conducted a full investigation which identified over 300 of his victims, as very few came forward whilst he was alive it was not possible to arrest or charge or him, the NHS also mounted a full investigation as well. Yup. It’s debatable why he wasn’t prosecuted but we know he knew Northern villains , he knew senior policemen, government officials and royalty. They were either ignorant or complicit . In the 60s Lord Boothby a senior and influential politician knew the gangster Ronnie Kray very well . They were both known to indulge in underage sex with boys . So we know that politician nonces and criminals nonces mixed socially and tolerated each other . |
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Post by Handyman on Feb 7, 2024 16:02:13 GMT
Yes there were lots of rumours over the years he did rub shoulders with Royalty and Politicians due to his Charity work but I doubt if they were actual friends acquaintances yes ,he could have been taken to task back in 2009 when Surrey Police submitted a Case File to the CPS relating to Sexual Assault on a child. However due to the age of the victim and vulnerability the CPS could not proceed no victim able or competent or willing to give evidence no charges can be brought. He allegedly sexually 20 children under the age of 10 years and 10 boys even an adult Nurse who refused to give evidence After his death the Met Police and other Police Forces as part of Operation Yew Tree conducted a full investigation which identified over 300 of his victims, as very few came forward whilst he was alive it was not possible to arrest or charge or him, the NHS also mounted a full investigation as well. Yup. It’s debatable why he wasn’t prosecuted but we know he knew Northern villains , he knew senior policemen, government officials and royalty. They were either ignorant or complicit . In the 60s Lord Boothby a senior and influential politician knew the gangster Ronnie Kray very well . They were both known to indulge in underage sex with boys . So we know that politician nonces and criminals nonces mixed socially and tolerated each other . I have no doubt that some knew what he was up to, especially in the BBC he may have been protected but who knows for certain its too late now. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2024 16:04:13 GMT
Do you realise that the woman being interviewed has outed Denis Thatcher, husband of Margaret Thatcher, as a paedophile who regularly frequented a local school to abuse young boys? And that Margaret Thatcher was personally informed about Tory MPs known to have hosted paedophile parties involving young boys yet took no action for the good of the party? And that in fact, knowing this about one of them, she gave him a knighthood? And the fact that Saville himself spent Christmas at Chequers with the Thatchers ten times? Thatcher herself was described in the interview as someone who felt very comfortable in the presence of paedophiles. I suggest others listen to this in full. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 7, 2024 16:04:43 GMT
Yup. It’s debatable why he wasn’t prosecuted but we know he knew Northern villains , he knew senior policemen, government officials and royalty. They were either ignorant or complicit . In the 60s Lord Boothby a senior and influential politician knew the gangster Ronnie Kray very well . They were both known to indulge in underage sex with boys . So we know that politician nonces and criminals nonces mixed socially and tolerated each other . I have no doubt that some knew what he was up to, especially in the BBC he may have been protected but who knows for certain it’s too late now. All of the victims knew what he was up to and a lot of that was passed upstairs. There is no way in Earth that the police, hospital officials and/ or government did not know . |
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Post by Handyman on Feb 7, 2024 16:12:49 GMT
I have no doubt that some knew what he was up to, especially in the BBC he may have been protected but who knows for certain it’s too late now. All of the victims knew what he was up to and a lot of that was passed upstairs. There is no way in Earth that the police, hospital officials and/ or government did not know . Of course the victims knew what he had done to them that is obvious even to me, as for who knew for certain what he was up to I have no idea , nor am I going to assume or guess either |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 7, 2024 16:29:23 GMT
All of the victims knew what he was up to and a lot of that was passed upstairs. There is no way in Earth that the police, hospital officials and/ or government did not know . Of course the victims knew what he had done to them that is obvious even to me, as for who knew for certain what he was up to I have no idea , nor am I going to assume or guess either As the title of the thread is “The Real Reason Jimmy Savile Was Never Caught...” it kind of takes you out of the debate |
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