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Post by Totheleft on Feb 16, 2024 17:30:30 GMT
UK consumer gets cheaper products - who is losing out? And what about the British Farmer in all this? |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 16, 2024 17:31:29 GMT
UK consumer gets cheaper products - who is losing out? And what about the British Farmer in all this . |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 16, 2024 17:33:44 GMT
Australia is one of the world's biggest agricultural producers. The farmers in France would block Paris to stop the EU doing an FTA with their rivals. It would mean cheaper food. There are seven million people in France using food banks whilst the EU sits on food mountains to keep food prices high. Australia exporting cheap food would completely undermine the food mountain and wine lake system. What about the British Farmer in all this? |
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Post by Totheleft on Feb 16, 2024 17:47:52 GMT
Concerns raised by the British environment health Authority.
Australian food and drink exporters not required to meet UK standards in new trade deal
Australian food and drink exporters not required to meet UK standards in new trade deal
Friday, 30 September 2022, Ciaran Donaghy
CIEH has expressed concern that the UK Government is entering into Free Trade Agreements (FTAs) which will result in lowering food standards in the UK, potentially placing consumers at risk.
Following closer examination of the recent FTA with Australia, the International Trade Committee has concluded that Australian food and drink exporters will not be required to meet UK core food production standards.
With UK farmers bound by high food and environmental standards, the confirmation that Australian food products will not be subject to the same standards highlights a real fear that they will be significantly undercut and unable to compete with cheaper produce entering the market from Australia
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 16, 2024 17:52:29 GMT
UK consumer gets cheaper products - who is losing out? And what about the British Farmer in all this? There are 100,000 farmers in the UK and 70 Million consumers - who should be prioritised?. Also British farmers can sell all they can grow - in fact they are currently being paid to reduce production. |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 16, 2024 18:23:54 GMT
Australia is one of the world's biggest agricultural producers. The farmers in France would block Paris to stop the EU doing an FTA with their rivals. It would mean cheaper food. There are seven million people in France using food banks whilst the EU sits on food mountains to keep food prices high. Australia exporting cheap food would completely undermine the food mountain and wine lake system. What about the British Farmer in all this? Most of the farms are on land owned by millionaires and billionaires, they are subsidised by the taxpayer. What about those people who are dependent on food banks? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Feb 16, 2024 21:09:50 GMT
The EU as a whole is essentially self-sufficient in food; unlike the UK it does not depend on importing food from the other side of the world to sustain an exploding population.
That's why an FTA with Australia makes no sense.
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 16, 2024 22:05:37 GMT
The EU as a whole is essentially self-sufficient in food; unlike the UK it does not depend on importing food from the other side of the world to sustain an exploding population. That's why an FTA with Australia makes no sense. Why not? - we need to import food so why make that food needlessly expensive? Is this another one of your Marie Antoinette moments? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Feb 17, 2024 12:22:10 GMT
You're questions don't make any sense. I was referring to the FTA between the EU and Australia. The Eu has no need to import the sort of foodstuffs that Australia produces. It is self-sufficient in all appropriate agricultural products i.e those that can be produced in Europe.
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Post by Vinny on Feb 17, 2024 14:14:08 GMT
You say the EU is self sufficient in food, and yet you ignore the millions dependent on foodbanks in the EU.
Including the millions in "idyllic" France.
The invasion of Ukraine has produced vast grain shortages and vegetable oil shortages and pushed food prices up, at the same time the EU maintains food mountains to restrict supply and keep food prices high.
Of course they don't want free trade, free trade would increase supply, break the stranglehold of the heavily subsidised EU farmers lobby and cut the cost of food.
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Post by Dan Dare on Feb 17, 2024 15:18:25 GMT
As with so much else - including geopolitics - you are living in the past Vinny. EU butter mountains and wine lakes ceased to exist years ago along with the old-style CAP. As for millions using foodbanks in France, that may well be so, just as it is in the UK. But so what? One of the issues concerning the UK and its food supplies is that so much of what is consumed is not proper food but crap, so-called 'highly- and ultra-processed food' HPF/UPF, including US-style junk fast food which is far more ubiquitous in the UK than anywhere on the Continent, as is unhealthy 'ethnic' glop. The usual UK diet is shockingly bad notwithstanding the great number of calories consumed. It's just another aspect of the way in which American culture has become hegemonic since the 60s. Brexit isn't going to do anything to reverse that trend.
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Post by Dan Dare on Feb 17, 2024 15:42:35 GMT
I'd note in addition, citing an earlier post, that 49 out of 70 episodes of the popular BBC series 'Inside the Factory' have been dedicated to factories producing just the sort of HPF/UPF junk mentioned here.
Telling commentary on both the British diet and the actual current state of manufacturing industry (the latter also being reflected in the sort of companies that make up the FTSE 100).
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Post by Vinny on Feb 17, 2024 17:13:17 GMT
I'm going to have a pizza for tea.
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Post by Dan Dare on Feb 17, 2024 22:07:23 GMT
As long as it's made from home-made dough from whole-wheat floor, topped with a sauce from organic tomatoes and buffalo mozzarella plus a little home-grown basil and oregano, plus you make sure there's no factory processed meat-type products on top, there's nothing wrong with that.
On the other hand if it's something you bought in a box from a supermarket more than likely assembled from ingredients sourced in bulk from China then you're digging your grave with your teeth.
Know whum sayin'?
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 17, 2024 22:23:31 GMT
Marie Antoinette speaks!...  |
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