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Post by Handyman on Jan 19, 2024 19:04:35 GMT
Well you obviously don't.
The majority of pensioners have paid for the pensions throughout their whole working lives (I'm 53 and I already have) and those horrible "Millionaires" will have paid far more still through their higher rates of tax (like I already have).
Meanwhile, your mate "Abdullah" has contributed the square root of fuck all.
Much like your intellectual contribution to the debate, come to mench.
I think we’ve been down this road before with him but it seems to go in one ear and out the other. Triple lock is applied to state pensions . State pensions are determined by how much NI the pensioner has paid . No one gets a huge state pension afaik . Exactly and if you have been prudent and able to pay into a work or private pension as well you are very likely to be taxed on your pensions as its classed as income , having already been taxed on your earnings when working |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 19, 2024 19:05:19 GMT
Well you obviously don't.
The majority of pensioners have paid for the pensions throughout their whole working lives (I'm 53 and I already have) and those horrible "Millionaires" will have paid far more still through their higher rates of tax (like I already have).
Meanwhile, your mate "Abdullah" has contributed the square root of fuck all.
Much like your intellectual contribution to the debate, come to mench.
Would that be Awful millionaires that Spend less on VAT and have Charity Organisations that don't pay a penny in Corporate tax Yep.it would like I said dont Expect you to understand that. And who are they then? And how many actually claim the old age pension?
Do you have a link?
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 19, 2024 19:05:46 GMT
Well you obviously don't.
The majority of pensioners have paid for the pensions throughout their whole working lives (I'm 53 and I already have) and those horrible "Millionaires" will have paid far more still through their higher rates of tax (like I already have).
Meanwhile, your mate "Abdullah" has contributed the square root of fuck all.
Much like your intellectual contribution to the debate, come to mench.
Would that be Awful millionaires that Spend less on VAT and have Charity Organisations that don't pay a penny in Corporate tax Yep.it would like I said dont Expect you to understand that. And Glad you said the Marjority of the. Paid for their pensions throughout all their life you do know that means Nowt . Now the pension they receive now It's Sicking that they get less in a week wage then pensiones get in there State pension. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 19, 2024 19:09:00 GMT
Would that be Awful millionaires that Spend less on VAT and have Charity Organisations that don't pay a penny in Corporate tax Yep.it would like I said dont Expect you to understand that. And Glad you said the Marjority of the. Paid for their pensions throughout all their life you do know that means Nowt . Now the pension they receive now It's Sicking that they get less in a week wage then pensiones get in there State pension. Anyone? |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 19, 2024 19:12:27 GMT
I think we’ve been down this road before with him but it seems to go in one ear and out the other. Triple lock is applied to state pensions . State pensions are determined by how much NI the pensioner has paid . No one gets a huge state pension afaik . Exactly and if you have been prudent and able to pay into a work or private pension as well you are very likely to be taxed on your pensions as its classed as income , having already been taxed on your earnings when working I get by in my state pension and use the small drawdown to pay for things like a new boiler or carpets etc. The only reason I can us because I own a small bungalow and do not have to pay rent . As for ‘ millionaire’s’. One could easily own a three bedroom in London worth £ 600000 and have a pension pot of £400000 just by working hard . This shit about millionaires claiming huge state pensions only exists between the ears of misinformed lefties. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 19, 2024 19:13:14 GMT
And Glad you said the Marjority of the. Paid for their pensions throughout all their life you do know that means Nowt . Now the pension they receive now It's Sicking that they get less in a week wage then pensiones get in there State pension. Anyone? Who knows ? |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 19, 2024 19:13:20 GMT
I think we’ve been down this road before with him but it seems to go in one ear and out the other. Triple lock is applied to state pensions . State pensions are determined by how much NI the pensioner has paid . No one gets a huge state pension afaik .
State pension in the opening post is given as £201 per week - a few pounds over £10000 pa for a sole pensioner ( just over £15000 for a couple) Hardly huge especially if compared : Single benefit cap : 2023/24 is set at £1,413.92 a month if you live in Greater London, and £1,229.42 if you live outside Greater London. www.independentage.org/get-advice/money/benefits/benefit-cap#:~:text=If%20you're%20single%20with,anywhere%20else%20in%20the%20UK. no that's if you read it that's pension Credits what's added on top of State pension . So that equals to about £500 A week and there the Dissabibllity payments or pip some receive and Carers Allowance there no limit to what they can Claim |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 19, 2024 19:14:48 GMT
No one gets a huge state pension afaik
State pension in the opening post is given as £201 per week - a few pounds over £10000 pa for a sole pensioner ( just over £15000 for a couple) Hardly huge especially if compared : Single benefit cap : 2023/24 is set at £1,413.92 a month if you live in Greater London, and £1,229.42 if you live outside Greater London. www.independentage.org/get-advice/money/benefits/benefit-cap#:~:text=If%20you're%20single%20with,anywhere%20else%20in%20the%20UK. no that's if you read it that's pension Credits what's added on top of State pension . So that equals to about £500 A week and there the Dissabibllity payments or pip some receive and Carers Allowance there no limit to what they can Claim Millionaires cannot claim pension credits .. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 19, 2024 19:17:14 GMT
I think we’ve been down this road before with him but it seems to go in one ear and out the other. Triple lock is applied to state pensions . State pensions are determined by how much NI the pensioner has paid . No one gets a huge state pension afaik . Exactly and if you have been prudent and able to pay into a work or private pension as well you are very likely to be taxed on your pensions as its classed as income , having already been taxed on your earnings when working Well if your taxed on your pension has earnings you must be in the top rate of Earnings and if Im Right you domt pay the first 20%o of your pension in tax. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 19, 2024 19:19:50 GMT
Exactly and if you have been prudent and able to pay into a work or private pension as well you are very likely to be taxed on your pensions as its classed as income , having already been taxed on your earnings when working Well if your taxed on your pension has earnings you must be in the top rate of Earnings and if Im Right you domt pay the first 20%o of your pension in tax. Nope basic personal allowance is £12,570 £967 per month. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 19, 2024 19:24:33 GMT
no that's if you read it that's pension Credits what's added on top of State pension . So that equals to about £500 A week and there the Dissabibllity payments or pip some receive and Carers Allowance there no limit to what they can Claim Millionaires cannot claim pension credits .. Herd that before but I'm on about the ordinarily pensioner. But Checked who can claim.pension Credits it said them that Claim Dissabibllity payments or with Savings Don't know if there a Cap on savings but if not they can most certainly Claim pension Credits. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 19, 2024 19:26:08 GMT
Well if your taxed on your pension has earnings you must be in the top rate of Earnings and if Im Right you domt pay the first 20%o of your pension in tax. Nope basic personal allowance is £12,570 £967 per month. Including Private pension that counted has income |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 19, 2024 19:26:17 GMT
Millionaires cannot claim pension credits .. Herd that before but I'm on about the ordinarily pensioner. But Checked who can claim.pension Credits it said them that Claim Dissabibllity payments or with Savings Don't know if there a Cap on savings but if not they can most certainly Claim pension Credits. You were moaning about millionaires . Pension credits are mean tested . |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 19, 2024 19:26:49 GMT
Millionaires cannot claim pension credits .. Herd that before but I'm on about the ordinarily pensioner. But Checked who can claim.pension Credits it said them that Claim Dissabibllity payments or with Savings Don't know if there a Cap on savings but if not they can most certainly Claim pension Credits. And? |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 19, 2024 19:28:38 GMT
Herd that before but I'm on about the ordinarily pensioner. But Checked who can claim.pension Credits it said them that Claim Dissabibllity payments or with Savings Don't know if there a Cap on savings but if not they can most certainly Claim pension Credits. And? It obviously Means they Keep taking out of the County being a further Burden |
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