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Post by thomas on Jan 18, 2024 10:38:23 GMT
Tory minister says North Sea oil funding cost of living support A TORY minister’s admission that North Sea oil revenues are funding billions in cost of living support for “every household” has exposed the myth of Scotland being subsidised by the rest of the UK, an MSP has said. Appearing before a Holyrood committee, UK Energy Secretary Graham Stuart was grilled on why profits from Scotland’s oil and gas activity could not be used to prevent the closure of Grangemouth refinery. In response he said: “Of course the oil and gas industry is in Scotland, but it is part of one United Kingdom, of course it comes in tax receipts to the Government and has allowed the Government to subsidise Scottish and every other households' energy bills over the last few years." www.thenational.scot/news/24056217.tory-minister-says-north-sea-oil-funding-cost-living-support/
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2024 14:30:07 GMT
It's the British who control it and paid for the means to use it. It belongs to the UK, which has fed and clothed you for centuries, and after we had to stop you trading in slaves.
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Post by thomas on Jan 18, 2024 14:39:11 GMT
oh dear. ?The oil and gas produced in the North Sea is owned by private business. It was privatised forty years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2024 15:00:05 GMT
It's regulated with authority from The Secretary of State for Energy who issues licences to loyal private business. It's British oil.
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Post by thomas on Jan 18, 2024 15:28:52 GMT
the oil and gas are in what is currently classed as the uk EEZ , which means the private companies own and extract it and are taxed for the privilege of doin so.Contrary to your either implication . if Scotland leaves , the uk EEZ no longer exists , and we know 96% of current oil fields for example will come under Scotland EEZ , which is currently two thirds of the current uk EEZ .
It will then be Scottish ministers , not Westminster english ministers , either issuing licences for private firms , or potentially like Norway nationalising oil and gas.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2024 8:50:29 GMT
They are licenced to drill and process it and make a profit. All you want to do is hand the resources over to the continent who will suck it dry. Also, Westminster is diverse, and not strictly English. You may rely on anti-English bigotry up there, but let's be honest and call it out for what it is, which is white supremacist unlike England. The token isn't fooling anyone.
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Post by thomas on Jan 19, 2024 9:30:26 GMT
They are licenced to drill and process it and make a profit. We know that. That isn't what you said earlier though was it when I had to correct your latest warbling... you know when I had to inform you private business control it and pay for the means to use it. now you retreat , having accepted my correction , and litter the thread with more banal comments. *80 % of North Sea oil and gas is currently being exported while uk citizens struggle to heat homes and fill cars , and the uk has extremely weak energy security . so what are you talking about you absolute crackpot? www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/19/analysis-reveals-80-of-north-sea-oil-is-exported It's the de facto English parliament as it always has been. 82% of the seats are English , which is set to increase slightly , and even in 1801 , when the Irish were admitted , despite the population of the uk then being 50 % English , 50 % Celtic , with the Irish alone having an electorate then the same size as Englands at the time , never at any point was representation 50 /50. so what are you talking about you crackpot? Christ you don't half love a moan.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2024 10:03:32 GMT
We know that. That isn't what you said earlier though was it when I had to correct your latest warbling... What did I say earlier? I see no contradiction in my post. They're licenced by the government. I told you that: "It's regulated with authority from The Secretary of State for Energy who issues licences to loyal private business. It's British oil."
The Guardian - the mouthpiece of net zero and the EU.
"A Department for Energy Security and Net Zero spokesperson said: “This analysis is fundamentally flawed – it wrongly assumes that all licences lead to equal amounts of oil extraction when that is not the case.
“In fact, the UK is now a net importer of oil and gas – with most of our oil being exported to Europe to be refined into the products we use in the UK.
“It is common sense to make the most of our domestic supply and reduce our vulnerability to hostile states, while bringing in tens of billions of tax which we can invest in helping people with cost of living.”"
No it isn't, so stop lying. It's the UK Parliament that covers the entire UK. There is NO English parliament, only counties. Maybe keep your nonsense for the uneducated and ignorant white supremacists you rely on up there. It's your separatist national socialism that is the problem. If you accepted being British then we'd all be in the same island level club, which is what Scotland wanted when the UK was there to bail you out and support you as equals. The fact that you expect ~5 million to be 50/50 with ~60 million only highlights your insane supremacy, when in actuality it's the entire population of the UK that is covered. You are all about tight fisted greed and white power. Be honest about it.
All you do is post personal abuse, because you think that will win support from your anti-English tribe.
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Post by thomas on Jan 19, 2024 10:25:53 GMT
We know that. That isn't what you said earlier though was it when I had to correct your latest warbling... What did I say earlier? I see no contradiction in my post.
its explained above and self explanatory. I can write replies , I can't understand them for you. we understand they are licensed by the uk government. your second post in the thread is what I clearly corrected you on , and now you attempt to mire the thread in your usual nonsense. It is currently uk oil , because it is currently in uk EEZ. are you with me so far ? If Scotland leaves , the current uk ceases to exist , and Scotland will take control of its own EEZ currently two thirds of the current uk EEZ and 96 % of current oil fields are Scottish , and 60 % of natural gas . Dont start crying about the messenger because you don't like the message. The uk is a net importer of oil and gas .It sells into the European markets , and regarding gas shut down all the old gas storage facilities over many years since the Blair regime . It doesn't need to , and your reply even states it makes lots of money selling into integrated European energy markets , which in turn leaves uk households vulnerable and at risk from lack of energy security. Now analysis of government data by Global Witness has shown that in the 20 years between 2004 and 2023 the UK awarded 1,680 licences to companies to extract oil and gas in the North Sea. The analysis found that the share of UK oil and gas that was exported between 2004 and 2022 rose from 60% to more than 80%. During the same period domestic oil production fell by 60%.
This comes against a complex background: the UK’s refinery capacity and its ability to handle its own fossil fuels has fallen sharply during that period. are you now denying yet more reality , that the current `uk` parliament represents 82% English seats , and is set to rise further? That is the definition of a de facto English parliament. christ you really are that thick aren't you? this is a predominantly English forum. It's not friends reunited , nor am I on an English forum looking for comrades in support. Im here debating , and like reading your posts for a laugh. You might prefer standing in a darkened room with you mates getting a slap on the back every time you scream at yourself , but it's not my cuppa tea old china. im just shocked at the level of stupid in one person , and the constant whinging for mummy to protect you on an adult forum.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2024 10:35:36 GMT
Post something worthwhile instead of regurgitating the same ScotNat bullshit and personal insults to impress your horde. You haven't offered me anything worth responding to that wouldn't force me to repeat myself. Also, relying on Scotland's Tony Blair has got to be a joke, right? He balkanised the UK! I have already pointed out that the ScotNats are all about greed, white power and trying to screw over the rest of the UK. It isn't our fault you're full of hate for the rest of the UK. It will be our fault if we don't stand up for what is rightfully British.
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Post by thomas on Jan 19, 2024 10:50:58 GMT
Post something worthwhile instead of regurgitating the same ScotNat bullshit and personal insults to impress your horde. err......you were moaning about a guardian article and its contents , which you claimed was a mouthpiece for the eu and net zero , which is a British paper against scot indy. Now you are claiming it's a scot nat conspiracy theory? dear christ above. yet , you keep replying...... if you are born in a stable it doesn't make you a horse , and he was elected by an English constituency , not a Scottish one. do keep up. hysterical conspiracy theory for ending the old unitary state , and starting devolution at the bequest of the C.O.E and the political prevailing winds . Whats your point caller? white power , we have a brown muslim first minister.......................? do you just think the first thing that comes into your tiny brain to throw muck about ? says the man who voted to end his country being a part of the EU and stick two fingers up to 450 million europeans? your hurt feelings and whinging make you look stupid in that context. well , you will have your hands full shortly when Sir Keir Starmer stands up for what is rightfully European , and returns you separatists to being a north west outpost of our European Union .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2024 10:54:01 GMT
I'll leave the fascist to post his personal abuse. I can see he isn't right in the head.
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Post by thomas on Jan 19, 2024 10:58:25 GMT
I'll leave the fascist to post his personal abuse. I can see he isn't right in the head. that's ok. I accept your surrender rebirth. Run along.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2024 11:00:44 GMT
Nobody is surrendering. I just see no point in repeating myself to some abusive ScotNat who lies about the politics of the UK and preys on the ignorant. If you post something worth bothering with then I may respond. I can't be arsed with the personal abuse that is Scottish Politics, which appears to be a bunch of fascists and amateurs. It's no wonder Labour is gaining traction up there. That's how crap you really are. You had it handed on a plate and you lost it. Maybe future generations will learn from it?
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Post by thomas on Jan 19, 2024 11:22:00 GMT
to think this person has a vote. Im all for universal suffrage , but sometimes the stupidity on display really does make me question my wisdom.
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