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Post by dappy on Jan 17, 2024 15:05:44 GMT
Red, a couple of points to note though, one human and one political. On a human level Farage is a narcissist, a bit like Trump and takes losing far worse than "normal" people and in a FPTP world it is still far more likely that he would lose than be elected (you really should read that book I recommended.) On a political level, it does feel inevitable that there will be an almighty civil war between the One Nation wing of the Tory party and the populist wing who broadly share the same political viewpoint as Farage. There may be opportunities for Farage that fall out of that. If he were to stand and be elected, his position to take advantage would be enhanced. If however he stood and lost again, his position would be weakened. View pretty much everything about right wing politics at the moment as preparing for the post election fight and its much easier to understand what is going on now. They have pretty much written off the election, whatever they publicly say.
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Post by steppenwolf on Jan 18, 2024 7:58:53 GMT
Farage will always have trouble winning a seat because opposition parties always make him a target and break every electoral law in the book to prevent him getting a seat in Parliament. Remember the last election Farage stood as a candidate - the Tories were fined for bussing vast numbers of people to canvas against him. I think Farage was given the option of having the voting rerun but decided it was too late (by the time the EC had decided rules had been broken everybody had forgotten the election).
Tice will have the same problem. People like Farage and Tice can do a lot of damage to the Tories in Parliament. It'll be interesting to see how Ben Habib does in the forthcoming by-election. He's also a very clever bloke.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2024 9:03:54 GMT
Labour and Tories work together to keep everyone else out. This is why leaders of both Tory and Labour would endorse far-left rent-a-mobs to try and shut down any genuine opposition. This is the real fight and TBH, with all the Jew hatred that the far-left are occupied with it may be as good a time as any for a genuine opposition to put on the gloves.
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