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Post by jonksy on Jan 14, 2024 12:33:20 GMT
Well we can talk about economic - in London 50% of social housing goes to people who were not born in the country and across the UK 700,000 council homes are taken up by foreign born tenants. There's 1.2 million on council waiting lists. So mass immigration of people who cannot support themselves is an economic value - to who? Pointing out statistical FACTS to andrew will only make him revert back to his factory settings, accusing everyone of being racist. And he has brickie phobia mate...LOL |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 14, 2024 12:38:46 GMT
Pointing out statistical FACTS to andrew will only make him revert back to his factory settings, accusing everyone of being racist. And he has brickie phobia mate...LOL LOL |
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Post by thomas on Jan 14, 2024 12:43:31 GMT
The thread is about the economic value of migration. You picked on someone who probably isn't a migrant but who is a Muslim. The clue is in the title of the thread. Your islamaphobia is irrelevant. Well we can talk about economic - in London 50% of social housing goes to people who were not born in the country and across the UK 700,000 council homes are taken up by foreign born tenants. There's 1.2 million on council waiting lists. So mass immigration of people who cannot support themselves is an economic value - to who? on the subject of social housing going to foreigners , I watched a clip on twitter the other day of a German politician making a speech in their parliament on the same problems in Germany. The lady in question said that in Germany , for example ,60% of benefit payments were being made to families in Germany who were not holders of German passports. She said this was unsustainable. We are hearing reports of mass social unrest from countries like Germany , Ireland and elsewhere across Europe as our continent is being overwhelmed by hordes from the third world. Labour Party and their supporters especially have always been selective in cherry picking data to try and sell the so called economic value of mass uncontrolled immigration , but as you point out this is a complete fallacy. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 14, 2024 12:53:13 GMT
Well we can talk about economic - in London 50% of social housing goes to people who were not born in the country and across the UK 700,000 council homes are taken up by foreign born tenants. There's 1.2 million on council waiting lists. So mass immigration of people who cannot support themselves is an economic value - to who? on the subject of social housing going to foreigners , I watched a clip on twitter the other day of a German politician making a speech in their parliament on the same problems in Germany. The lady in question said that in Germany , for example ,60% of benefit payments were being made to families in Germany who were not holders of German passports. She said this was unsustainable. We are hearing reports of mass social unrest from countries like Germany , Ireland and elsewhere across Europe as our continent is being overwhelmed by hordes from the third world.
Labour Party and their supporters especially have always been selective in cherry picking data to try and sell the so called economic value of mass uncontrolled immigration , but as you point out this is a complete fallacy.It's their vote winning ploy, when Starmer refused to back a ceasefire in Gaza the Muslim community threatened to withdraw support for Labour, confirming what most of us knew, Labour are in their pockets, it's within the interest of Labour to have us saturated with foreigners because they eventually they become Labour voters.
Starmer/Labour are more than prepared to have the UK flooded with uncontrolled immigration, they are the future Labour.
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Post by thomas on Jan 14, 2024 13:03:55 GMT
on the subject of social housing going to foreigners , I watched a clip on twitter the other day of a German politician making a speech in their parliament on the same problems in Germany. The lady in question said that in Germany , for example ,60% of benefit payments were being made to families in Germany who were not holders of German passports. She said this was unsustainable. We are hearing reports of mass social unrest from countries like Germany , Ireland and elsewhere across Europe as our continent is being overwhelmed by hordes from the third world.
Labour Party and their supporters especially have always been selective in cherry picking data to try and sell the so called economic value of mass uncontrolled immigration , but as you point out this is a complete fallacy.It's their vote winning ploy, when Starmer refused to back a ceasefire in Gaza the Muslim community threatened to withdraw support for Labour, confirming what most of us knew, Labour are in their pockets, it's within the interest of Labour to have us saturated with foreigners because they eventually they become Labour voters.
Starmer/Labour are more than prepared to have the UK flooded with uncontrolled immigration, they are the future Labour.
I think most folk know that labour can't be trusted on immigration. That goes without saying , apart from the few on this forum who foolishly and relentlessly choose that hill for labour to die on. With barely a fifth of the uk electorate saying they will vote labour , if the other four fifths can be made to turn out and vote against them , starmer is in big trouble no matter what the polls currently say. What's interested me as I said above though , is how toxic mass uncontrolled immigration is now becoming worldwide , especially in North America and Europe. Im reading increasing stories and outrage about immigration from New York , to Dublin, and across Europe , so the usual idiots crying racism anytime anyone wants to try and discuss the migration problem is now wearing thin and largely falling on deaf ears. You cannot have humanity moving from country to country like a swarm of locusts . More and more , previously middle ground voters in many countries are increasingly becoming alarmed at the mass uncontrolled immigration , and how its destabilising the western nations . |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 14, 2024 13:10:24 GMT
It's their vote winning ploy, when Starmer refused to back a ceasefire in Gaza the Muslim community threatened to withdraw support for Labour, confirming what most of us knew, Labour are in their pockets, it's within the interest of Labour to have us saturated with foreigners because they eventually they become Labour voters.
Starmer/Labour are more than prepared to have the UK flooded with uncontrolled immigration, they are the future Labour.
I think most folk know that labour can't be trusted on immigration. That goes without saying , apart from the few on this forum who foolishly and relentlessly choose that hill for labour to die on. With barely a fifth of the uk electorate saying they will vote labour , if the other four fifths can be made to turn out and vote against them , starmer is in big trouble no matter what the polls currently say. What's interested me as I said above though , is how toxic mass uncontrolled immigration is now becoming worldwide , especially in North America and Europe. Im reading increasing stories and outrage about immigration from New York , to Dublin, and across Europe , so the usual idiots crying racism anytime anyone wants to try and discuss the migration problem is now wearing thin and largely falling on deaf ears. You cannot have humanity moving from country to country like a swarm of locusts . More and more , previously middle ground voters in many countries are increasingly becoming alarmed at the mass uncontrolled immigration , and how its destabilising the western nations . I am totally gutted... www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67973718 |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 14, 2024 13:28:34 GMT
The thread is about the economic value of migration. You picked on someone who probably isn't a migrant but who is a Muslim. The clue is in the title of the thread. Your islamaphobia is irrelevant. Well we can talk about economic - in London 50% of social housing goes to people who were not born in the country and across the UK 700,000 council homes are taken up by foreign born tenants. There's 1.2 million on council waiting lists. So mass immigration of people who cannot support themselves is an economic value - to who? A quote by Mirgration watch Let's see if I can disprove that. Migrants who moved to the UK recently (that is, fewer than 5 years ago) are much more likely to live in privately rented housing (74%) compared to the average among all foreign born (37%, see Figure 1). By contrast, those who have been in the UK longer tend to have housing accommodation that is closer to that of the UK-born (Figure 3). In fact, the housing accommodation of those who have been in the UK for 20 years or longer is very similar to that of the UK-born population, with 70% in owner occupied housing, 12% in private rent and 19% in social housing. And seeing your post says that immigrants take up 50% socal housing in London and my post says that 75% of new Arivals live in private Accommodation. I'm sure you know that the private rent is much dearer then Morgeges especially in London. What was you saying about Mass immigration not be able to support themselves, Also them that have lived in the UK for more the 10yrs have a equal rate of home ownership to the British population Again what was you saying about immigrants not able to Support Themselves? Has for them living in Social housing surly your not saying there unemployed or in get hosing benefits * |
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Post by thomas on Jan 14, 2024 13:34:22 GMT
Well we can talk about economic - in London 50% of social housing goes to people who were not born in the country and across the UK 700,000 council homes are taken up by foreign born tenants. There's 1.2 million on council waiting lists. So mass immigration of people who cannot support themselves is an economic value - to who? A quote by Mirgration watch Let's see if I can disprove that. Migrants who moved to the UK recently (that is, fewer than 5 years ago) are much more likely to live in privately rented housing (74%) compared to the average among all foreign born (37%, see Figure 1). By contrast, those who have been in the UK longer tend to have housing accommodation that is closer to that of the UK-born (Figure 3). In fact, the housing accommodation of those who have been in the UK for 20 years or longer is very similar to that of the UK-born population, with 70% in owner occupied housing, 12% in private rent and 19% in social housing. And seeing your post says that immigrants take up 50% socal housing in London and my post says that 75% of new Arivals live in private Accommodation. I'm sure you know that the private rent is much dearer then Morgeges especially in London. What was you saying about Mass immigration not be able to support themselves, Also them that have lived in the UK for more the 10yrs have a equal rate of home ownership to the British population Again what was you saying about immigrants not able to Support Themselves? Has for them living in Social housing surly your not saying there unemployed or in get hosing benefits * Keir has just been on the phone there asking that you politely step away from the keyboard..... |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 14, 2024 13:38:01 GMT
A quote by Mirgration watch Let's see if I can disprove that. Migrants who moved to the UK recently (that is, fewer than 5 years ago) are much more likely to live in privately rented housing (74%) compared to the average among all foreign born (37%, see Figure 1). By contrast, those who have been in the UK longer tend to have housing accommodation that is closer to that of the UK-born (Figure 3). In fact, the housing accommodation of those who have been in the UK for 20 years or longer is very similar to that of the UK-born population, with 70% in owner occupied housing, 12% in private rent and 19% in social housing. And seeing your post says that immigrants take up 50% socal housing in London and my post says that 75% of new Arivals live in private Accommodation. I'm sure you know that the private rent is much dearer then Morgeges especially in London. What was you saying about Mass immigration not be able to support themselves, Also them that have lived in the UK for more the 10yrs have a equal rate of home ownership to the British population Again what was you saying about immigrants not able to Support Themselves? Has for them living in Social housing surly your not saying there unemployed or in get hosing benefits * Keir has just been on the phone there asking that you politely step away from the keyboard..... Has he so you have a personal friendship With Sir Keir that nice. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 14, 2024 13:41:19 GMT
Keir has just been on the phone there asking that you politely step away from the keyboard..... Has he so you have a personal friendship With Sir Keir that nice. he seemed rather distressed that you were telling everyone labour is the party of mass uncontrolled immigration. Can't think why. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 14, 2024 13:47:40 GMT
Has he so you have a personal friendship With Sir Keir that nice. he seemed rather distressed that you were telling everyone labour is the party of mass uncontrolled immigration. Can't think why. Yea so is the Conservatives and you prefer them over labour. Just shows you far left and them on the right have much in common. And I thought you was also a supporter of Mass immigration seeing you Voted Remain ? |
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Post by thomas on Jan 14, 2024 13:53:36 GMT
he seemed rather distressed that you were telling everyone labour is the party of mass uncontrolled immigration. Can't think why. Yea so is the Conservatives and you prefer them over labour. Just shows you far left and them on the right have much in common. And I thought you was also a supporter of Mass immigration seeing you Voted Remain ? My dad was a Scottish conservative , and my mother labour. I have never voted conservative in my life , but having suffered under labour governments , labour councils , and in labour controlled constituencies , if someone held a gun to my head and made me pick between the two I can honestly say never in a million years would I vote labour . I don't support mass uncontrolled immigration , absolutely not. I supported freedom of movement , with our fellow europeans , although there were pros and cons with the system and many pitfalls. The idea though , that anyone with any sense would want a labour party in Westminster adding to an out of control immigration system that is broken beyond all repair is fucking laughable , and a delusion in that mental head of yours. im neither far right , or far left , but you on the other hand appear to be out of touch with the majority of voters with your appeals in support of labours mass uncontrolled immigration , making you the out of touch zealot , as we see each day by your zany posts on various subjects where you are so far out of touch in your ivory tower you are almost in another universe. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 14, 2024 14:09:03 GMT
Yea so is the Conservatives and you prefer them over labour. Just shows you far left and them on the right have much in common. And I thought you was also a supporter of Mass immigration seeing you Voted Remain ? My dad was a Scottish conservative , and my mother labour. I have never voted conservative in my life , but having suffered under labour governments , labour councils , and in labour controlled constituencies , if someone held a gun to my head and made me pick between the two I can honestly say never in a million years would I vote labour . I don't support mass uncontrolled immigration , absolutely not. I supported freedom of movement , with our fellow europeans , although there were pros and cons with the system and many pitfalls. The idea though , that anyone with any sense would want a labour party in Westminster adding to an out of control immigration system that is broken beyond all repair is fucking laughable , and a delusion in that mental head of yours. im neither far right , or far left , but you on the other hand appear to be out of touch with the majority of voters with your appeals in support of labours mass uncontrolled immigration , making you the out of touch zealot , as we see each day by your zany posts on various subjects where you are so far out of touch in your ivory tower you are almost in another universe. OK whatever we see who out of touch come the GE. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 14, 2024 14:14:33 GMT
My dad was a Scottish conservative , and my mother labour. I have never voted conservative in my life , but having suffered under labour governments , labour councils , and in labour controlled constituencies , if someone held a gun to my head and made me pick between the two I can honestly say never in a million years would I vote labour . I don't support mass uncontrolled immigration , absolutely not. I supported freedom of movement , with our fellow europeans , although there were pros and cons with the system and many pitfalls. The idea though , that anyone with any sense would want a labour party in Westminster adding to an out of control immigration system that is broken beyond all repair is fucking laughable , and a delusion in that mental head of yours. im neither far right , or far left , but you on the other hand appear to be out of touch with the majority of voters with your appeals in support of labours mass uncontrolled immigration , making you the out of touch zealot , as we see each day by your zany posts on various subjects where you are so far out of touch in your ivory tower you are almost in another universe. OK whatever we see who out of touch come the GE. if labour take power after the general election , on a fifth of the uk electorate votes , it won't be because you and your party are `in touch` with people , but because of the disgraceful anti democratic FPTP stitch up . |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 14, 2024 14:19:29 GMT
OK whatever we see who out of touch come the GE. if labour take power after the general election , on a fifth of the uk electorate votes , it won't be because you and your party are `in touch` with people , but because of the disgraceful anti democratic FPTP stitch up . If Labour do get to power it will be because of the lefty dirty tricks, dishonesty, lies, corruption with the help of the lefty Unions and the Woke Civil Service, and a woke police force, all geared up to discredit the Tory government. |
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