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Post by dappy on Jan 7, 2024 1:54:50 GMT
As I say again, I seem to know more about Harbertonford than you. I even know its name….
Your claim about cheering crowds supporting you in a supermarket car park has proven nonsense. And of course if Collection Agents are involved, the matter would have had to go to court. Do try to keep your story consistent.
Let’s start again and try to forget all the lies. I believe you may have got a ticket. What was the ticket for, why do you believe it was not valid? Why do you believe neither the appeal officer nor the judge accepted your version of events?
BTW it may be morning before I respond
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Post by jonksy on Jan 7, 2024 2:03:08 GMT
As I say again, I seem to know more about Harbertonford than you. I even know its name…. Your claim about cheering crowds supporting you in a supermarket car park has proven nonsense. And of course if Collection Agents are involved, the matter would have had to go to court. Do try to keep your story consistent. Let’s start again and try to forget all the lies. I believe you may have got a ticket. What was the ticket for, why do you believe it was not valid? Why do you believe neither the appeal officer nor the judge accepted your version of events? BTW it may be morning before I respond Like I have stated dappy I am ont acountable to you or anyone else for my actions and it is no surprise that you maynot respond until the morning as it is far past childrens bedtime. |
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Post by dappy on Jan 7, 2024 7:55:28 GMT
That’s fine. I doubt anyone would have believed your story anyway.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 7, 2024 14:33:59 GMT
Imagine: Dappy impugning someone else's credibility. 🤣
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Post by jonksy on Jan 7, 2024 14:41:25 GMT
Imagine: Dappy impugning someone else's credibility. 🤣 If he had read the links to the official report I lincked too over the floods in Harbertonford he would see the final conclusion stated that sustained rainfall and blocked culverts and ditches were the cause. |
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Post by patman post on Jan 7, 2024 16:01:34 GMT
Oh look, another left-winger obsessed with GB News. It's amazing isn't it. Lefties apparently hate GB News, but they all appear to watch it. Bet GB News thought hard about covering this story (if it did cover it) as it would probably refer to a significant proportion of its viewers...
Neo-Nazi podcast hosts who targeted Prince Harry and his son Archie jailed for terror offences
Christopher Gibbons and Tyrone Patten-Walsh used the Black Wolf Radio podcast to air racist views and encourage listeners to commit acts of violence.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 7, 2024 17:19:11 GMT
Wow! Olympic standard whataboutery there, Pat.🤣
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2024 20:23:35 GMT
Out of interest, why do you question it? Well let’s test this story for credibility. Let’s ignore the fact that the poster concerned regularly lies and simply treat the story on its merits. We know that supermarkets live in a highly competitive industry and therefore are careful to operate professionally. As such they only contract with professional parking management companies. Supermarket parking contracts are highly prized by parking companies. It is illegal for parking companies to clamp vehicles Parking companies manage supermarket car parks by cameras not by men visiting the car parks For Jonksy’s story to be true, a professional car park company keen to protect its lucrative contract with its customer focused customer would nonetheless have abandoned its cheap camera technology, sent a team of men to manually patrol the busy car park, hang around for at least two hours,, break the law by clamping the car and leave a note on the car admitting their illegal act (they can only get paid releasing the clamp) and then hang around even longer until the car Parker returned. That’s about as likely as an employer writing to a failed job applicant admitting they had broken the law in assessing his application. So I ask again , does anyone actually believe this story? I can confirm this from my own experience working for a supermarket. We employ a contractor who periodically sends a young lady around to check that those parked in the disabled bays have the valid pass displayed in their cars. Those who do not get a legally binding fine in the post. She also checks out the parent and child parking bays. These have no badge to display so she has to catch them in the act of either getting out of or returning to their cars without children, in which case they get fined too. The supermarket has nothing at all to gain and a lot to lose by people being fined inappropriately, but where the rules are being fairly enforced the majority of customers welcome it because they instinctively dont like a minority taking the piss. No wheel clamps are used at my store, merely the issuing of fines. I would be happy to see wheel clamp usage banned entirely except by the police. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 7, 2024 22:13:59 GMT
I can confirm this from my own experience working for a supermarket. We employ a contractor who periodically sends a young lady around to check that those parked in the disabled bays have the valid pass displayed in their cars. Those who do not get a legally binding fine in the post. She also checks out the parent and child parking bays. These have no badge to display so she has to catch them in the act of either getting out of or returning to their cars without children, in which case they get fined too. The supermarket has nothing at all to gain and a lot to lose by people being fined inappropriately, but where the rules are being fairly enforced the majority of customers welcome it because they instinctively dont like a minority taking the piss. No wheel clamps are used at my store, merely the issuing of fines. I would be happy to see wheel clamp usage banned entirely except by the police. No they don't. No one but a court can issue a fine. They can issue a "Penalty Charge Notice", which is effectively an invoice, but it's far from legally binding and in most cases unlikely to be upheld by a court. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2024 22:28:44 GMT
I can confirm this from my own experience working for a supermarket. We employ a contractor who periodically sends a young lady around to check that those parked in the disabled bays have the valid pass displayed in their cars. Those who do not get a legally binding fine in the post. She also checks out the parent and child parking bays. These have no badge to display so she has to catch them in the act of either getting out of or returning to their cars without children, in which case they get fined too. The supermarket has nothing at all to gain and a lot to lose by people being fined inappropriately, but where the rules are being fairly enforced the majority of customers welcome it because they instinctively dont like a minority taking the piss. No wheel clamps are used at my store, merely the issuing of fines. I would be happy to see wheel clamp usage banned entirely except by the police. No they don't. No one but a court can issue a fine. They can issue a "Penalty Charge Notice", which is effectively an invoice, but it's far from legally binding and in most cases unlikely to be upheld by a court. It appears to operate on the same basis as parking fines issued by traffic wardens in practice. And however legally binding it is or isnt, most people just pay up rather than go through the hassle and expense of challenging it in court. Because they would not actually have a very good case if the rules were clearly signposted and they ignored them. The court might well come down on the side of the enforcer. The latter have chased people through the courts before and won with costs awarded against the challenger who was clearly guilty. Or so the lady who works for them claims, anyway. And it does make sense. The expense of chasing rule breakers through the courts if they refuse payment, is worthwhile because it deters many others from trying to waste the courts' time. I suspect that with camera evidence for both the signage and the rule violation, most courts would take a dim view of any challenge by an obviously guilty person who clearly broke the rules and seems unwilling to take the consequences for it. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 8, 2024 1:33:38 GMT
I can confirm this from my own experience working for a supermarket. We employ a contractor who periodically sends a young lady around to check that those parked in the disabled bays have the valid pass displayed in their cars. Those who do not get a legally binding fine in the post. She also checks out the parent and child parking bays. These have no badge to display so she has to catch them in the act of either getting out of or returning to their cars without children, in which case they get fined too. The supermarket has nothing at all to gain and a lot to lose by people being fined inappropriately, but where the rules are being fairly enforced the majority of customers welcome it because they instinctively dont like a minority taking the piss. No wheel clamps are used at my store, merely the issuing of fines. I would be happy to see wheel clamp usage banned entirely except by the police. No they don't. No one but a court can issue a fine. They can issue a "Penalty Charge Notice", which is effectively an invoice, but it's far from legally binding and in most cases unlikely to be upheld by a court. Exactly mate and if you receive a parking ticket from any supermarket tell them to stuff it where the sun don't shine. It isn't legally binding and just yet more extorsion of the motorist. |
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