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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 4, 2024 14:53:36 GMT
Computational complexity theory is the theoretical study of computational machines and their ability to solve problems, and to know if they can solve certain problems, where these problems are classified in terms of how hard they are to solve. It's a field of applied mathematics which uses logic to prove certain theories related to this. The study of this was started with Alan Turin who invented this theoretical model of a computer called a Turing Machine. Today this study has progressed into the world of computational devices that work according to the principles of quantum mechanics.
Scott Aaronson is rather famous because not only is he an academic in this field, but he is known to have invented boson sampling. This was in the news recently as it demonstrated quantum supremacy of a quantum computer over a classical computer, and I think it holds the record for the greatest level of supremacy in quantum computation. This was an experiemtn which was conducted in China, so the Chinese were like really proud of it. I've got a link here to the wiki page on the system.
by the way, nice to see Blighty involved too:
Anyway, here is an interview with the chap. He gives an explanation of loads of different quantum weirdness issues.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 5, 2024 19:08:37 GMT
I've got a video here which runs through a quick summary of what boson sampling is and how it is used as as a quantum computer to solve a classically hard problem. What it is not is a universal quantum computer, instead it solves a problem which relates to the calculation of the permanent of a matrix. QM in general is dealt with in mathematics as linear algebra, of which this link here explains how you calculate the permanent.
For a 2 x 2 matrix (N = 2) the calculation is easy, but as the size increases the calculation gets hard very quickly. This is what we mean by complexity. As N increases we have different classes of function which describe how hard the calculation gets. For example in a simple search algorithm the length of time it takes to search N numbers in a list is proportional to the number of numbers we have, so it scales as N. If we order those numbers and search by a divide and conquer approach we get the complexity scaling as log N, which makes large number searches far faster and such an algorithm reduces the complexity of the problem. So in designing computer systems the game here is to find algorithms that collapse the complexity as much as possible. For boson sampling no one so far has found an easier way to compute the answer using a classical computer.
At the end of the video it shows the various ways of creating boson sampling by the different research groups. Bristol is looking like it is doing some good work here, but how ironic the chap leading the research is from Venice. Hopefully one day some Brits will become smart enough to work in this field! The Aussies are doing some work here as well.
By the way, if you were under the impression this complexity lark is rather straightforward, you might like to look at this. This is Scott Aaronson's collection of complexity classes and how they relate to one another, what the class is called and so on, much like a kind of dictionary of them, which users can submit new ones as and when they are discovered.
It's interesting to note the original paper he publishes on boson sampling has some hundred pages of formal mathematical proof that boson sampling is hard!
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 10, 2024 17:56:45 GMT
Having listened to another talk by this chap it turns out that to run the calculation of the matrix for 40 photons was verified to be correct, but it cost the Chinese $1/2 m to buy the supercomputer time to run it. They have now demonstrated it with 70 photons which is said to have 10^33 parameters. He mentioned the complexity can be reduced to 2^N because as I understand it the matrix is like a Hadamard matrix where you can think of it like for every photon there is an extra dimension added, so the matrix gets very large very fast. The puzzle I have is from his own figures the complexity is grater than 2^N, but for the sake of argument we know it would be greater than 2^30 x $1/2m to run it on a super computer.
On the one hand it is rather incredible a set up in a lab with a load of light beams can outperform the best computers we have by such a large amount, but the problem is the problem it solves is not that useful to us. It's not the sort of problem we can incorporate into many computations like we could with say a hardware multiplier where multiplying numbers is the bread and butter of computer work.
To date there have only been two algorithms which are significant in quantum computing, which are the Shor's Algorithm and Grover's algorithm, both of which you could say are more useful in real life computer engineering, but anyway, this is another of this kind to add to the collection. This is like proof of concept. We hope that by fiddling around with something that does work and is not that useful, it may show us the way to create more quantum algorithms and systems. We also have the quantum annealing trick which is far more of a universal quantum computer, but is engineered in a completely different way.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 13, 2024 9:56:58 GMT
Apologies for not responding earlier to this thread … I was busy with other discussions - which touched on observations in the real world … different from Quantum Theory. I respect your view that Mathematics and it’s Theory are the key to understanding the Universe as we know it … but I don’t see why Quantum ‘hobbyists’ have persuaded real science funders to part with our precious tax-payers money to go down avenues of THEORY, to try and prove conundrums of questionable utility … and use up precious computer time and energy. ….these Quantum guys are like nerd Trekkies who speak a Klingon ‘language’ and arguably ‘masturbate’ over complex mathematical problems that have doubtful useful applications to REAL HUMAN BEINGS. But I listened to this discussion … and now have a few questions. I like to strip things back to basics … (from Wikipedia we get …) A quantum computer is a computer that takes advantage of quantum mechanical phenomena.
At small scales, physical matter exhibits properties of both particles and waves, and quantum computing leverages this behavior, specifically quantum superposition and entanglement, using specialized hardware that supports the preparation and manipulation of quantum states.
Classical physics cannot explain the operation of these quantum devices, and a scalable quantum computer could perform some calculations exponentially faster (with respect to input size scaling)[2] than any modern "classical" computer. In particular, a large-scale quantum computer could break widely used encryption schemes and aid physicists in performing physical simulations; however, the current state of the art is largely experimental and impractical, with several obstacles to useful applications. Moreover, scalable quantum computers do not hold promise for many practical tasks, and for many important tasks quantum speedups are proven impossible.Question: 1) Why are we wasting time/money with quantum computers when AI done on classical computers works, is useful, provides solutions to important tangible questions, … and greatly exponentially increases human knowledge already to the point every human struggles to keep up? 2) Why create something even more dangerous we cannot fathom? … just because it is MARGINALLY FASTER … Humanity doesn’t need MORE SPEED … when 99.9999999% of humans are already being marginalised and left behind by current ‘machine learning’ and ‘AI automation’. 3) NERDS … Wake up….Stop creating things that ‘dehumanise’ our World … you will just create tools for Globalist NUTTERS to ABUSE us … they have enough of those already. …. and you are responsible for that. 4) Watch Terminator 1+2 again … Humans fighting for survival … against MACHINES. There is going to be a nasty backlash to what you are doing … if you don’t have a template for Humanity to exist within your ideas. Most humane people want to kill the Sheldon Coopers of this World … or drop them on another Planet without any biological support system. Don’t say you weren’t warned. 5) Stop ignoring machines hunting humans in Ukraine. NERDS created that scenario … and are responsible for those DEATHS. …. GOOGLE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE DEATHS…. and future deaths from AI and their ‘Wonder chips’. Humanity prefers fish and chips right now - seriously. 6) Around 1hr 20mins onwards Scott starts to talk about Relativity, TIME and the start of the Universe. The Big Bang I presume. Can you please show me anywhere in the Universe that TIME exists? … has physicality … and any proof The Big Bang was the start of the physical Universe we live in? … and not just the radiation residues of ‘one Big Bang’? Look hard … Evidence of multiple periodic Big Bangs may be hidden in the dust of this current explosion? … This Theory doesn’t explain why stars are accelerating away from this ‘source’. Big Bang Theory is DEAD. Accept that and move on. 7) Surely TIME is just a human concept artificially generated when we/or outsiders first created clocks? …. These clocks exhibit variations and error when subjected to various forces within our Universe? … These variations don’t prove Time ALONE is anything but METRONOMIC … and just moves forward, evenly and relentlessly, as our physical Universe decays and creates new stars and new Matter from other dimensions(multiverses) we cannot traverse to … through wormholes in Space. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 13, 2024 14:35:16 GMT
Apologies for not responding earlier to this thread … I was busy with other discussions - which touched on observations in the real world … different from Quantum Theory. I respect your view that Mathematics and it’s Theory are the key to understanding the Universe as we know it … but I don’t see why Quantum ‘hobbyists’ have persuaded real science funders to part with our precious tax-payers money to go down avenues of THEORY, to try and prove conundrums of questionable utility … and use up precious computer time and energy. ….these Quantum guys are like nerd Trekkies who speak a Klingon ‘language’ and arguably ‘masturbate’ over complex mathematical problems that have doubtful useful applications to REAL HUMAN BEINGS. But I listened to this discussion … and now have a few questions. I like to strip things back to basics … (from Wikipedia we get …) A quantum computer is a computer that takes advantage of quantum mechanical phenomena.
At small scales, physical matter exhibits properties of both particles and waves, and quantum computing leverages this behavior, specifically quantum superposition and entanglement, using specialized hardware that supports the preparation and manipulation of quantum states.
Classical physics cannot explain the operation of these quantum devices, and a scalable quantum computer could perform some calculations exponentially faster (with respect to input size scaling)[2] than any modern "classical" computer. In particular, a large-scale quantum computer could break widely used encryption schemes and aid physicists in performing physical simulations; however, the current state of the art is largely experimental and impractical, with several obstacles to useful applications. Moreover, scalable quantum computers do not hold promise for many practical tasks, and for many important tasks quantum speedups are proven impossible.Question: 1) Why are we wasting time/money with quantum computers when AI done on classical computers works, is useful, provides solutions to important tangible questions, … and greatly exponentially increases human knowledge already to the point every human struggles to keep up? 2) Why create something even more dangerous we cannot fathom? … just because it is MARGINALLY FASTER … Humanity doesn’t need MORE SPEED … when 99.9999999% of humans are already being marginalised and left behind by current ‘machine learning’ and ‘AI automation’. 3) NERDS … Wake up….Stop creating things that ‘dehumanise’ our World … you will just create tools for Globalist NUTTERS to ABUSE us … they have enough of those already. …. and you are responsible for that. 4) Watch Terminator 1+2 again … Humans fighting for survival … against MACHINES. There is going to be a nasty backlash to what you are doing … if you don’t have a template for Humanity to exist within your ideas. Most humane people want to kill the Sheldon Coopers of this World … or drop them on another Planet without any biological support system. Don’t say you weren’t warned. 5) Stop ignoring machines hunting humans in Ukraine. NERDS created that scenario … and are responsible for those DEATHS. …. GOOGLE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE DEATHS…. and future deaths from AI and their ‘Wonder chips’. Humanity prefers fish and chips right now - seriously. 5) Around 1hr 20mins onwards Scott starts to talk about Relativity, TIME and the start of the Universe. The Big Bang I presume. Can you please show me anywhere in the Universe that TIME exists? … has physicality … and any proof The Big Bang was the start of the physical Universe we live in? … and not just the radiation residues of ‘one Big Bang’? Look hard … Evidence of multiple periodic Big Bangs may be hidden in the dust of this current explosion? … This Theory doesn’t explain why stars are accelerating away from this ‘source’. Big Bang Theory is DEAD. Accept that and move on. 6) Surely TIME is just a human concept artificially generated when we/or outsiders first created clocks? …. These clocks exhibit variations and error when subjected to various forces within our Universe? … These variations don’t prove Time ALONE is anything but METRONOMIC … and just moves forward, evenly and relentlessly, as our physical Universe decays and creates new stars and new Matter from other dimensions(multiverses) we cannot traverse to … through wormholes in Space. Scott Aaronson is not someone who has worked in cosmology so I think you are asking the wrong person. What he is, first and foremost, is a mathematician, and a very good one at that, with a specialisation in complexity theory. He is working on the problem of quantum computing using his field of specialisation to assist those who are trying to build them. I've been aware of his work for some time now. He seems to have recently done some Youtube interviews where he discusses the latest tech. The real problem is there are a lot of scammers in the industry, and same too with the nuclear fusion stat-ups which is another area of scam. Scott is trying to help people understand what's what, i.e. what is hype that does not live up to the claims and what is productive research.
Quantum computation is a science in its infancy, so there have only been a few big advances. It's like AI was in the 80s. Most thought AI was a joke so did not take it seriously until a few better algorithms were established, e.g. the LSTM which came in the late 90s and showed everyone there was more than one trick left to discover. The thing is this man was one who invented a quantum speedup over a classical machine that to date demonstrates the greatest computational advantage. Useless it may well be, but it is proof of a principle. Obviously what we are looking for is something that achieves such incredible speed-ups, but does something useful like say matrix multiplication. So here is a man who has added a valuable advancement to the field, which you can tell by the number of researchers interested in boson sampling. Actually there is one potential application where in cryptography if I wanted to send some data to your computer so you could not read it, and then for your machine to do some processing on that data and send it back to me so i can read it but you can't, then this is what you could use (in theory!)
So in summary, why one should take this man's advice is he knows what he is talking about and is not hyping and exaggerating something as so many do on Youtube. He will tell your the truth. To know what's what with these ideas is where one has to revert back to the maths, which is his forte. Boson sampling came with a rigorous 100 page proof to it. That's almost on the level of the proof of Fermat's Last Theorem.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 14, 2024 6:06:49 GMT
To many people … sticking the word “quantum” on any discipline or object … generally means using numbers or words that exaggerate and push that ‘science’ down Alice in Wonderland’s Rabbit Hole … beyond the reach of the observable and quantifiable … into the realm of the purely ‘theoretical’ … and unprovable.
As you know from my threads … and yours too …. we love to push the ‘boundaries’ of our possible Reality … and explore the unknown … but at least I am looking at phenomena that has been witnessed by ordinary sane intelligent people, repeatedly, who have had their Reality shaken over extra-terrestrial technologies and multidimensional phenomena … that many quantum scientists strangely happily ignore? Why?
Surely this is the ‘frontline’ where ‘quantum science’ should be delving right now …. the paranormal and UFOLOGY? ~ Observable phenomena/quantifiable phenomena.🤔
I acknowledge Scott is being forthright and realistic about the strengths and weaknesses of quantum computers and whether they will finally deliver any significant improvement on what classical computers coupled with AI rapid advancements will deliver over a device of uncertainty with a random scattering computational potential creating random unknowns.
It begs the question:
1) Is a quantum computer coupled with AI going to create a Pandora’s Box that could put our technology beyond our control ~ against our interests and survival?
Musk and a few others want to talk about that … in a limited way … but the devious money men in the shadows in America and Israel in particular … who have the ultimate control and moved to remove Sam Altman and other innovators recently … and put Google at the forefront of these Revolutions … they are not into being open and honest with us.
… If people trust Google … and the Military Complex that have twisted most AI interests into creating military hardware that threatens human existence … then they are being incredibly STUPID.
GOOGLE’s history shows they don’t have a shred of interest in protecting humanity’s interests. … and NATO/Israeli/U.S./EU eastern expansionists have clearly shown their motivations for World Domination, genocide and ethnic cleansing.
Because dark forces/Black Ops are now secretly running things … intellectual rational scientists and the U.N.haven’t the power to gather and conference and make decisions in our interests anymore .. and create safe templates for HUMANITY and our Survival in these rapidly expanding fields spiralling beyond human control.
… Even the World Health Organisation has turned into a Totalitarian entity.
One other point … I noticed you adroitly avoided the bullet point questions I posited above? … Was it because you didn’t have answers? … or confronting those issues head on … isn’t something todays scientists and mathematicians are prepared to do?
Surely rational science should have a rational answer to every rational question that deserves answers … not side-stepping.
We have had Einstein’s Relativity Theorem rammed down our throats for over 100 years now … and some people want to challenge it’s veracity … but are being de-platformed right now in certain circles.
One last point on this ‘quantum’ issue …
Maybe the Chinese are more practical about realities and possibilities and shouldn’t get sucked down U.S. Western-generated quantum rabbit holes?? … We in the WEST have seen what damage ‘white elephant’ Projects and policies has done to America and European economies … distracted and arguably wasting huge amounts of money and resources on CERN and quantum science …. which have generated no foreseeable kickbacks to the donors, the tax-payers … who don’t share scientist’s wonderment over delving into infinitesimal probabilities and particles to see how they ‘tick’ when science and it’s atomic clocks are likely proven inaccurate as Universal Forces are applied and Relativity Theory goes out the window under a barrage of criticism over what TIME is … purely conceptual.
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P.S.
I haven’t yet tackled the other videos and links in your thread so will do that shortly. … In the meantime … could you possibly give me your answers to the bullet points I asked in my initial reply? Q’s 1-7.??
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 19, 2024 11:16:41 GMT
[ Quantum computation is a science in its infancy, so there have only been a few big advances. It's like AI was in the 80s. Most thought AI was a joke so did not take it seriously until a few better algorithms were established Hi … Baron … Still waiting patiently for your answer to my bullet points … above. Thoughts on Time, Relativity … first …then maybe thoughts on Quantum potential … making that transition from pure Theory to something tangible.? Hoping for your thoughts on these points. Thanks! DD. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 19, 2024 11:25:50 GMT
Big Bang Theory is DEAD. AccepIs itt that and move on. It has never been dispelled. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 19, 2024 18:36:44 GMT
Question: 1) Why are we wasting time/money with quantum computers when AI done on classical computers works, is useful, provides solutions to important tangible questions, … and greatly exponentially increases human knowledge already to the point every human struggles to keep up?
Because we don't have the computational power to solve certain real life problems. 10^33 parameters for 70 photons is a large number.
By the way,that was a leading question. I do not believe it is a waste.
2) Why create something even more dangerous we cannot fathom? … just because it is MARGINALLY FASTER … Humanity doesn’t need MORE SPEED … when 99.9999999% of humans are already being marginalised and left behind by current ‘machine learning’ and ‘AI automation’.
Another leading question. Grovers algorithm gives you quadratic speedup over a search. A quadratic speed-up is not marginal for large searches.
Why dangerous?
3) NERDS … Wake up….Stop creating things that ‘dehumanise’ our World … you will just create tools for Globalist NUTTERS to ABUSE us … they have enough of those already. …. and you are responsible for that.
These systems are to help us. They can do optimisation problems. For example what would be the most cost effective layout of drainage pipes in a city. This is like graph theory in a practical application. Such a problem is often computationally hard, so can't be done with classical computers in a reasonable time. You often get the big numbers from combinatorics: lots of factorials.
4) Watch Terminator 1+2 again … Humans fighting for survival … against MACHINES. There is going to be a nasty backlash to what you are doing … if you don’t have a template for Humanity to exist within your ideas. Most humane people want to kill the Sheldon Coopers of this World … or drop them on another Planet without any biological support system. Don’t say you weren’t warned.
This is not a Hollywood thread
5) Stop ignoring machines hunting humans in Ukraine. NERDS created that scenario … and are responsible for those DEATHS. …. GOOGLE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE DEATHS…. and future deaths from AI and their ‘Wonder chips’. Humanity prefers fish and chips right now - seriously. 6) Around 1hr 20mins onwards Scott starts to talk about Relativity, TIME and the start of the Universe. The Big Bang I presume. Can you please show me anywhere in the Universe that TIME exists? … has physicality … and any proof The Big Bang was the start of the physical Universe we live in? … and not just the radiation residues of ‘one Big Bang’? Look hard … Evidence of multiple periodic Big Bangs may be hidden in the dust of this current explosion? … This Theory doesn’t explain why stars are accelerating away from this ‘source’. Big Bang Theory is DEAD. Accept that and move on.
We are onto a completely different subject here. Start a new thread.
7) Surely TIME is just a human concept artificially generated when we/or outsiders first created clocks? …. These clocks exhibit variations and error when subjected to various forces within our Universe? … These variations don’t prove Time ALONE is anything but METRONOMIC … and just moves forward, evenly and relentlessly, as our physical Universe decays and creates new stars and new Matter from other dimensions(multiverses) we cannot traverse to … through wormholes in Space.+ |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 21, 2024 23:11:31 GMT
Just bumped into this opinion from my favourite down-to-Earth scientist … Sabine … some great cutting sarcasm here as she exposes the BS around Quantum Computers … and exposes the Quantum Winter just around the corner.
This will cool the ardour of anyone completely ‘taken in’ by the BS and hype currently floating around the MSM …. Don’t be fleeced … no point wasting your money, business time and energy investing in chasing Quantum Computing goals …. It looks suspiciously like another (largely Zionist orchestrated?) Con Trick …. Like CERN … also arguably a waste of £££€€€ billions of precious tax-payers money, resources and TIME/ENERGY …. chasing a pipe dream that has delivered next to no payback for the investors - tax-payers are bloody furious!
…. Surely Governments shouldn’t be gullible enough to be taken in by this? Promises of this that and the other … like H2S … spiralling costs and a bucket with a huge hole in which colossal sums just disappear down the drain. …. with little or no hope of delivering on purely Theoretical Potential … that will rarely .. if ever … be realised.
Why the heck are the Chinese getting heavily involved in this … surely they have more common sense?
Surely funding Israeli-dual passport holders isn’t in their interests at all … after all the hostility of the Israeli-owned MSM?
Humanity should be focusing and investing Globalist’s monies in cleaning up pollution, saving rainforests, irrigating desert and semi-arid landscapes to shift weather patterns, and birth control … far more important investment priorities than this duplicitous baloney!
Love the quote in the above video from an expert who wrote in 2020 … “No, we will never have a quantum computer. Instead we might have some special task - and outrageously expensive quantum devices operating at milli-kelvin temperatures.
The Saga of Quantum Computing will be waiting for a profound sociological analysis … and some lessons in future should be learnt from this fascinating (wasteful) adventure.” ( in hype, bullshit and defunding)
(My added bits in brackets)
I think we should have learnt that lesson from the CERN Fiasco. …. We want a REFUND on that white elephant farce🤬🤬 … global warming could have been half fixed for the money invested in that scientist’s ‘anal ring’!
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Post by Vinny on Jan 21, 2024 23:26:17 GMT
"Israeli owned MSM"?
Examples please...
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 22, 2024 0:02:31 GMT
Just bumped into this opinion from my favourite down-to-Earth scientist … Sabine … some great cutting sarcasm here as she exposes the BS around Quantum Computers … and exposes the Quantum Winter just around the corner. This will cool the ardour of anyone completely ‘taken in’ by the BS and hype currently floating around the MSM …. Don’t be fleeced … no point wasting your money, business time and energy investing in chasing Quantum Computing goals …. It looks suspiciously like another (largely Zionist orchestrated?) Con Trick …. Like CERN … also arguably a waste of £££€€€ billions of precious tax-payers money, resources and TIME/ENERGY …. chasing a pipe dream that has delivered next to no payback for the investors - tax-payers are bloody furious! …. Surely Governments shouldn’t be gullible enough to be taken in by this? Promises of this that and the other … like H2S … spiralling costs and a bucket with a huge hole in which colossal sums just disappear down the drain. …. with little or no hope of delivering on purely Theoretical Potential … that will rarely .. if ever … be realised. Why the heck are the Chinese getting heavily involved in this … surely they have more common sense? Surely funding Israeli-dual passport holders isn’t in their interests at all … after all the hostility of the Israeli-owned MSM? Humanity should be focusing and investing Globalist’s monies in cleaning up pollution, saving rainforests, irrigating desert and semi-arid landscapes to shift weather patterns, and birth control … far more important investment priorities than this duplicitous baloney! Love the quote in the above video from an expert who wrote in 2020 … “No, we will never have a quantum computer. Instead we might have some special task - and outrageously expensive quantum devices operating at milli-kelvin temperatures. The Saga of Quantum Computing will be waiting for a profound sociological analysis … and some lessons in future should be learnt from this fascinating (wasteful) adventure.” ( in hype, bullshit and defunding) (My added bits in brackets) I think we should have learnt that lesson from the CERN Fiasco. …. We want a REFUND on that white elephant farce🤬🤬 … global warming could have been half fixed for the money invested in that scientist’s ‘anal ring’! She is talking shit there. I mean she is being totally negative whilst her examples cherry-pick the scam startups which we all know about anyway. She's not picking a fight with the ones who are serious, because for one I doubt she has the expertise. This area Scott AAronson deals with is a very specialist branch of maths to do with Turing machines and the quantum Turing machine. He is a world-leading expert, so I presented you a proper talented person, and all I got back was a load of diatribe from a woman who seems to have given up on science and become a popular writer on the subject, and very hypocritically misleading the ones who don't know any better.
If you want an accurate view on the market in quantum technology Scott will give you an honest and balanced view using his expertise to discern good from bad. In fact I found out about him because I was interested in computational complexity myself, and I found out he was the creator of boson sampling. If you want another expert I would recommend Peter Shor. There are some lectures he does on how he managed to reduce the complexity of a factoring problem. It's a genius piece of maths and very strange. A general approach here in short-cutting a hard calculation is to find some sort of pattern in what may on the surface look like random values. It's a trip into the real power of maths. That woman should have a little more respect for the ones who are making real progress and not try and cast them all as scammers in the same boat. it is very disingenuous. Almost bitch-like. You appear to be a sucker for these people rather than the genuinely postive-thinking ones who are doing the real work. No one can say if this stuff will ever work. That's the truth of it. To be certain it will never work is a lie.
Edit: here we are, here he is, the grandfather of the whole subject effectively, but there were those who came before him.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 23, 2024 13:14:36 GMT
"Israeli owned MSM"? Examples please... Are you being serious? … 😂🤣… just about all of it is funded and controlled by Jewish bankers. Hollywood, Silicon Valley Internet propaganda, Sky Mudoch industries, Bloomberg, the BBC (covertly managed), Lord Dacre owner of the Mail … who I don’t think is the worst misinformant by a long chalk … I like the D.Mail … in a sort of sado-masochistic way … The Guardian too. … with a bit of extra self-flagilation.😋 Gawd .. go back to college and follow the money … this is an embarrassing question to ask! She is talking shit there. I mean she is being totally negative whilst her examples cherry-pick the scam startups which we all know about anyway. She's not picking a fight with the ones who are serious, because for one I doubt she has the expertise. This area Scott AAronson deals with is a very specialist branch of maths to do with Turing machines and the quantum Turing machine. He is a world-leading expert, so I presented you a proper talented person, and all I got back was a load of diatribe from a woman who seems to have given up on science and become a popular writer on the subject, and very hypocritically misleading the ones who don't know any better. So whose funding Scott … is it people we’ve grown to distrust since 9/11? So Hossenfelder is not qualified and … “Talking shit?” … Or are you just upset another scientific red herring that engineers ‘colossal defunding’ of tax-payers … is being adroitly dismantled and exposed?? … popular she might be … but Sabrina Hossenfelder is more than qualified: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine_Hossenfelder… and with the background reading and research to have a forthright opinion on this. Naturally certain factions with their snouts in this trough won’t like it. … your failure to speak out enough about the harm and inefficacy of the vaccine programme on this Forum …makes me doubt some of your motivations sometimes … Aaronson appears a shady entity … and isn’t saying anything in your video that suggests he will put his wallet in this ring … and back it all the way. The big issue is when will the Chinese decide to ‘opt out’ and focus money and resources on more beneficial branches of science that really benefits their TRIBE and it’s People. When did British scientists devote 99% of their projects and funding to serving indigenous British Public interests?? … We British People are sick of being scammed by science white elephant projects like CERN …time for change at the top … and who dishes out scientific grant money. Quantum Computing ISN’T a pressing priority now … or in the foreseeable future … it’s currently a scammers paradise … You mathematical hobbyists can pursue it in your spare time, with your own private funding … we tax-payers cannot see any REAL benefits … so WE are opting OUT … and will VOTE OUT any Administrations that pursue this and other white elephant projects like CERN and H2S …. so just understand … … the People will decide … when we get FULL transparency … and true representation in OUR Parliament. … and the People’s needs are satisfied … not the needs of an elite who think they know what’s best for us. Sabrina is our girl … because she delivers a degree of transparency … removes the bullshit, smoke and mirrors scientists and Globalists use as COMMON CURRENCY. ************************ P.S. ..Will check out your video drop when I get a chance. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 23, 2024 13:20:21 GMT
No evidence whatsoever then.
And as for the BBC, as a licence payer, I part own it.
I assure you, I am uncircumcised. I am not Jewish.
But you are sounding more and more like some deranged anti semitic Vladovite Nazi.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 23, 2024 13:39:03 GMT
No evidence whatsoever then. And as for the BBC, as a licence payer, I part own it. I assure you, I am uncircumcised. I am not Jewish. But you are sounding more and more like some deranged anti semitic Vladovite Nazi. All Jews who behave well towards humanity are my friends … go play your pathetic anti-semitism card elsewhere. You read my response in sympathy of the victims of the recent Hamas festival/Kibbutz attacks … yet you still have the temerity to make such a false statement? … you are scraping the debate barrel now, Vinny.🙄 The Islington Set (heavily connected to the Golders Green Set(?)that control the BBC and Ofcom … are not interested in representing the interests of the indigenous people of this Country - the licence payers. 8 years trying to kill Brexit independence and self-determination, increased CENSORSHIP … shows these Managers are not interested in Democracy anymore … especially when the vote swings against their foreign agendas/broken border policies and promotions. That deserves criticism … a Free Press is EVERYTHING. The National Broadcaster should be FULLY behind Nationalist interests that aren’t NAZI interests … like we see in Ukraine. Britons are VERY different to Ukrainians … we want our troops fighting AGAINST Fascists … not FOR them … like today’s Whitehall😎😎😎 /EU goose-steppers! 🤔 ************************************* … meanwhile … back on topic …. Sabrina is NOT totally negative about Quantum Computing. |
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