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Post by wapentake on Dec 20, 2023 18:42:56 GMT
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Post by ratcliff on Dec 20, 2023 18:57:01 GMT
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Post by Montegriffo on Dec 20, 2023 19:00:20 GMT
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Post by wapentake on Dec 20, 2023 19:00:31 GMT
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Post by Bentley on Dec 20, 2023 19:20:17 GMT
You need a lot of hate to stab someone 28 times .
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Post by ratcliff on Dec 20, 2023 19:31:57 GMT
Having read the link : Horrific pre-planned murder , jury had no doubts with their mere 4 hour deliberation even with the alleged neurodivergent labels on the vile murderers |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 22:10:22 GMT
Mental seems to cover it.
I doubt they will have a whole life tariff at their young age. Even Jamie Bulgers killers did not.
I'll take a guess and say 20 years.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 21, 2023 7:54:01 GMT
Mental seems to cover it. I doubt they will have a whole life tariff at their young age. Even Jamie Bulgers killers did not. I'll take a guess and say 20 years. Do you think this is fair in comparison.....What sentence did the bike thieves get.
Gun-toting brothers who lay in wait to ambush would-be thieves who tried to steal their motorbikes are jailed for more than 40 YEARS after shooting at robbers
Christopher and Colin Nourse were given over 40 years in prison on Wednesday
They shot at robbers who tried taking their motorcycles and hit one in the arm
Police said they had acted recklessly and took justice into their own hands
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Post by dappy on Dec 21, 2023 14:26:52 GMT
I see the judge has ruled that the anonymity generally given to child offenders should be waived in this case. While a horrific case, Struggling to see who gains by knowing their names.
My understanding is that sentencing guidelines do not allow whole life sentences for children, quite rightly in my view. A life sentence with a say 20 year minimum term passes the responsibility for determining whether an offender should stay in jail to the authorities in 2043. A whole life tariff tries to give ourselves the right to make that decision now. It’s a nonsense anyway because there is nothing to stop the 2043 authorities overruling our decision anyway but ignoring that reality, why on earth in principle would we wish to take that decision now rather than delegate it to the authorities at the time?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 21, 2023 14:30:49 GMT
I see the judge has ruled that the anonymity generally given to child offenders should be waived in this case. While a horrific case, Struggling to see who gains by knowing their names. My understanding is that sentencing guidelines do not allow whole life sentences for children, quite rightly in my view. A life sentence with a say 20 year minimum term passes the responsibility for determining whether an offender should stay in jail to the authorities in 2043. A whole life tariff tries to give ourselves the right to make that decision now. It’s a nonsense anyway because there is nothing to stop the 2043 authorities overruling our decision anyway but ignoring that reality, why on earth in principle would we wish to take that decision now rather than delegate it to the authorities at the time? Do behave Dappy. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 21, 2023 14:35:57 GMT
Mental seems to cover it. I doubt they will have a whole life tariff at their young age. Even Jamie Bulgers killers did not. I'll take a guess and say 20 years. Do you think this is fair in comparison.....What sentence did the bike thieves get. Gun-toting brothers who lay in wait to ambush would-be thieves who tried to steal their motorbikes are jailed for more than 40 YEARS after shooting at robbers
Christopher and Colin Nourse were given over 40 years in prison on Wednesday
They shot at robbers who tried taking their motorcycles and hit one in the arm
Police said they had acted recklessly and took justice into their own hands Hmmm... I have no issue if Farmer Palmer takes his shotgun to a thief but it seems that these two had extensive "Previous" and a stash of illegal firearms prior to this incident occurring. There were clearly no better than the people that they shot at. And I suspect that that's probably the reason for their apparently sever sentence.
But hey, Daily Mail leaving out all the relevant facts. Again.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 21, 2023 15:14:22 GMT
What those scum did to Brianna Ghey was despicable.
Whole life behind bars is justified.
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 24, 2023 19:57:39 GMT
I see the judge has ruled that the anonymity generally given to child offenders should be waived in this case. While a horrific case, Struggling to see who gains by knowing their names. My understanding is that sentencing guidelines do not allow whole life sentences for children, quite rightly in my view. A life sentence with a say 20 year minimum term passes the responsibility for determining whether an offender should stay in jail to the authorities in 2043. A whole life tariff tries to give ourselves the right to make that decision now. It’s a nonsense anyway because there is nothing to stop the 2043 authorities overruling our decision anyway but ignoring that reality, why on earth in principle would we wish to take that decision now rather than delegate it to the authorities at the time? Do behave Dappy. I'll wager that was said more in hope than expectation.  |
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