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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 14, 2023 13:58:50 GMT
This is their latest video and when I was watching it I felt rather shocked by the brutality and smart alec attitude towards the community that funds them. I thought to myself, this guy is only a kid and what he was doing was playing and having fun. He was not breaking anything nor found with long knives in his pocket, just a poor working class place where there is little fun to be had and then this happens. Now it is easy as an adult to say oh well it was his own fault, he should have known the law and he didn't think too hard, but looking more carefully, the ones who did not think too hard were the police.
Lets suppose he was just naive and perhaps this was his first encounter with the local constabulary that his parents pay for in their taxes. From never meeting the police before in real life, his first impression is being bundled into the back of a police van like some hardened criminal caught in a bank robbery. Please bear in mind the likely view of the police here is they have won the game. It strikes me as rather pathetic they should think this way and is indicative of a bully-like mentality. Yes of course the experienced and fully trained police are no match agaisnt one kid. It hardly makes the police into heroes. The kid himself did not look like he felt he had done anything wrong or too bad, and looked surprised at the way the police approached him. Now I imagine from that point onwards he gets processed by the system, maybe put in a cell for many hours, with loads of form filling witness statements and all the other crap they think up. You really need to ask, is this approach going to make him more law abiding and more respectful, responsible and all the other qualities we like to see in our youth as they grow into adults or not.
My view on this was partly from my own experience of doing pretty much what this kid was doing but it was long before social media. Yes indeed, I stuck my foot right in it like this chap. I was pulling wheelies on my motorbike or trying to anyway, outside the residence of the local copper. The chap came out and said, did I know he was a copper. I said no, then he said well I am and my advice to you is in future it is not a good idea to pull wheelies outside a policeman's house and he said it is a much better idea to do it in the local woods. He was smiling as he explained and thought it rather funny, then said when he was a lad he used to do the same as what I was doing. It all ended well and I never tried doing that again. This was out of respect for being approached in a polite and friendly manner and being reasonable.
Anyway, I left a comment on the video above saying that I didn't think that was necessary and probably the best way to deal with it is the copper go and have a chat with his mother about it and give a warning. I said that by doing that it should fix the problem. It was interesting to notice the police we pay for in our taxes decided my comment should be censored and was duly deleted. My question to you folk is should the police be promoting themselves on social media and furthermore should they censor public comment from anyone who does not have the same fascist attitude towards our younger generation as they do? Please bear in mind the whole purpose of Youtube is to put your own videos up and have discussions about it. If the police are censoring debate in this way, it indicates they are likely to do the same with any letters of complaint or letters of suggestion from their paymasters. It goes a long way to demonstrate the flaws in the police service as it currently is. It is not serving us, but self-serving and very arrogant.
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Post by wapentake on Dec 14, 2023 17:03:49 GMT
He was behaving like a smartarse and got caught.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 14, 2023 17:31:30 GMT
He was behaving like a smartarse and got caught. Look at that house he lives in. The front door steps right into the street. There is no where for him to play and there never was. All people and animals learn by playing. A normal child develops into an adult in this way. He was just having fun. He was enjoying himself. There was no malicious motive what so ever. Sure he made a mistake but we all do when growing up. Put yourself in his shoes and think what you would feel like after being bundled into a police van for simply playing and having fun? Should he spend his whole life in front of a screen or in a school institution and have no agency over his life? Now supposing he starts to think the police are bastards. Suppose the police have him up a few more times and he starts to think why should I care. Maybe sometime later he sees a police car and lobs a brick through their window and then it gets serious, all because the idiots we pay for are allowed to behave like thugs themselves, and have a guess why that is? |
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Post by wapentake on Dec 14, 2023 20:48:49 GMT
He was behaving like a smartarse and got caught. Look at that house he lives in. The front door steps right into the street. There is no where for him to play and there never was. All people and animals learn by playing. A normal child develops into an adult in this way. He was just having fun. He was enjoying himself. There was no malicious motive what so ever. Sure he made a mistake but we all do when growing up. Put yourself in his shoes and think what you would feel like after being bundled into a police van for simply playing and having fun? Should he spend his whole life in front of a screen or in a school institution and have no agency over his life? Now supposing he starts to think the police are bastards. Suppose the police have him up a few more times and he starts to think why should I care. Maybe sometime later he sees a police car and lobs a brick through their window and then it gets serious, all because the idiots we pay for are allowed to behave like thugs themselves, and have a guess why that is? Put myself in his place? I was born and brought up on a council estate we made our own play and weren’t smartarsed with police and you think his misuse on a public road of a motor vehicle was play,and if he killed or injured someone? What a great way to play. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 14, 2023 20:58:20 GMT
“ Let’s suppose he was just naive and perhaps this was his first encounter with the local constabulary that his parents pay for in their taxes.”
You are kidding ?
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 15, 2023 8:17:51 GMT
This is their latest video and when I was watching it I felt rather shocked by the brutality and smart alec attitude towards the community that funds them. I thought to myself, this guy is only a kid and what he was doing was playing and having fun. He was not breaking anything nor found with long knives in his pocket, just a poor working class place where there is little fun to be had and then this happens. Now it is easy as an adult to say oh well it was his own fault, he should have known the law and he didn't think too hard, but looking more carefully, the ones who did not think too hard were the police.
Lets suppose he was just naive and perhaps this was his first encounter with the local constabulary that his parents pay for in their taxes. From never meeting the police before in real life, his first impression is being bundled into the back of a police van like some hardened criminal caught in a bank robbery. Please bear in mind the likely view of the police here is they have won the game. It strikes me as rather pathetic they should think this way and is indicative of a bully-like mentality. Yes of course the experienced and fully trained police are no match agaisnt one kid. It hardly makes the police into heroes. The kid himself did not look like he felt he had done anything wrong or too bad, and looked surprised at the way the police approached him. Now I imagine from that point onwards he gets processed by the system, maybe put in a cell for many hours, with loads of form filling witness statements and all the other crap they think up. You really need to ask, is this approach going to make him more law abiding and more respectful, responsible and all the other qualities we like to see in our youth as they grow into adults or not.
My view on this was partly from my own experience of doing pretty much what this kid was doing but it was long before social media. Yes indeed, I stuck my foot right in it like this chap. I was pulling wheelies on my motorbike or trying to anyway, outside the residence of the local copper. The chap came out and said, did I know he was a copper. I said no, then he said well I am and my advice to you is in future it is not a good idea to pull wheelies outside a policeman's house and he said it is a much better idea to do it in the local woods. He was smiling as he explained and thought it rather funny, then said when he was a lad he used to do the same as what I was doing. It all ended well and I never tried doing that again. This was out of respect for being approached in a polite and friendly manner and being reasonable.
Anyway, I left a comment on the video above saying that I didn't think that was necessary and probably the best way to deal with it is the copper go and have a chat with his mother about it and give a warning. I said that by doing that it should fix the problem. It was interesting to notice the police we pay for in our taxes decided my comment should be censored and was duly deleted. My question to you folk is should the police be promoting themselves on social media and furthermore should they censor public comment from anyone who does not have the same fascist attitude towards our younger generation as they do? Please bear in mind the whole purpose of Youtube is to put your own videos up and have discussions about it. If the police are censoring debate in this way, it indicates they are likely to do the same with any letters of complaint or letters of suggestion from their paymasters. It goes a long way to demonstrate the flaws in the police service as it currently is. It is not serving us, but self-serving and very arrogant.
You’re having a fucking larf Wankers like him used to infest the roads round here most of them delivering product as county lines mules. One such twat decided to turn out of the side road 200 yards up from my car as i drove home, and wheelie straight at me on the wrong side of the road in some fucking insane game of chicken The next day fleeing a drug delivery staged by undercover plod he did sixty up the pavement past the block of flats my grand daughter lives in scattering kids on that pavement in all directions The local bleeding heart liberal twat who seems to repeatedly get elected as one of our councillors held a ratepayers meeting to complain about their usual agenda and stupidly invited the sergeant of the hobby bobbies in the plod shop five miles away whose PSCOs had no vehicles so had to ride buses to get to crime scenes (because said liberal twat had her pal the PCC take their cars off them to save money) I stood up at the Any Other Business and told the stripe wearing wanker to his face his ineptitude and the actions of the utter fuckwit sitting next to him ensured county lines mules raced round our streets with reckless abandon and that seeing as he wasn’t doing anything about it the next one to play a game of chicken like the twat who nearly killed half the kids who lived by my grand daughter was going to find i suddenly froze in horror instead of braking so his head went right under my wheels as a public service because keeping the local addicts up the road in stupor is one thing but being a threat to my grand daughter’s life was another The room erupted in applause and i chose to leave having said my piece before it descended to utter anarchy. Over the next month the force used drones to follow every one of these scum back to the shitholes they crawled out from and then kicked their doors in at 3am It didn’t do much at first because the drug barons replaced the bikes and found new mules but they kept on doing it and we haven’t had a twat on a bike wheelieing up the road for a while and the murders of drug runners up the road have stopped too I’m all for these wankers getting a bit of old time police brutality |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 15, 2023 15:23:31 GMT
Look at that house he lives in. The front door steps right into the street. There is no where for him to play and there never was. All people and animals learn by playing. A normal child develops into an adult in this way. He was just having fun. He was enjoying himself. There was no malicious motive what so ever. Sure he made a mistake but we all do when growing up. Put yourself in his shoes and think what you would feel like after being bundled into a police van for simply playing and having fun? Should he spend his whole life in front of a screen or in a school institution and have no agency over his life? Now supposing he starts to think the police are bastards. Suppose the police have him up a few more times and he starts to think why should I care. Maybe sometime later he sees a police car and lobs a brick through their window and then it gets serious, all because the idiots we pay for are allowed to behave like thugs themselves, and have a guess why that is? Put myself in his place? I was born and brought up on a council estate we made our own play and weren’t smartarsed with police and you think his misuse on a public road of a motor vehicle was play,and if he killed or injured someone? What a great way to play. Well if you saw what my friends and I used to do you would probably freak. In all those years though regarding accidents, we had some, but although some falls were rather painful, no one ever did have a serious accident. We were tough and agile kids you see. We could estimate danger well, and developed responsibility. Looking at what he was doing in terms of how I would see it at his sort of age was in my view mild. Just to give you some idea, a close friend of mine built a racing cart with a professional Villiers racing engine in it. It could do 0-60 in a ridiculously short time and the acceleration pinned you back in the seat. Crazy machine, but we managed to deal with danger. Indeed this is why I feel sorry for this kid, because if he were around when I was his age and he was with us kids he would have loved it and turned out OK. It's just horrible the hatred these adults have in the video above. Them and their excuses eh? Kids really don't give a shit about their paperwork. They will learn to hate it and then you have the classic us and them situation. It will end in failure.
By the way, I would have formed a rather different view if he were doing this on a fast and busy road. He was not. He had figured out a way to do it so he would not get run over. He noticed the cars were not moving cos they were parked! His mistake was to not imagine the police spend all day watching Tiktok as opposed to working - lol. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 15, 2023 15:46:24 GMT
This is their latest video and when I was watching it I felt rather shocked by the brutality and smart alec attitude towards the community that funds them. I thought to myself, this guy is only a kid and what he was doing was playing and having fun. He was not breaking anything nor found with long knives in his pocket, just a poor working class place where there is little fun to be had and then this happens. Now it is easy as an adult to say oh well it was his own fault, he should have known the law and he didn't think too hard, but looking more carefully, the ones who did not think too hard were the police.
Lets suppose he was just naive and perhaps this was his first encounter with the local constabulary that his parents pay for in their taxes. From never meeting the police before in real life, his first impression is being bundled into the back of a police van like some hardened criminal caught in a bank robbery. Please bear in mind the likely view of the police here is they have won the game. It strikes me as rather pathetic they should think this way and is indicative of a bully-like mentality. Yes of course the experienced and fully trained police are no match agaisnt one kid. It hardly makes the police into heroes. The kid himself did not look like he felt he had done anything wrong or too bad, and looked surprised at the way the police approached him. Now I imagine from that point onwards he gets processed by the system, maybe put in a cell for many hours, with loads of form filling witness statements and all the other crap they think up. You really need to ask, is this approach going to make him more law abiding and more respectful, responsible and all the other qualities we like to see in our youth as they grow into adults or not.
My view on this was partly from my own experience of doing pretty much what this kid was doing but it was long before social media. Yes indeed, I stuck my foot right in it like this chap. I was pulling wheelies on my motorbike or trying to anyway, outside the residence of the local copper. The chap came out and said, did I know he was a copper. I said no, then he said well I am and my advice to you is in future it is not a good idea to pull wheelies outside a policeman's house and he said it is a much better idea to do it in the local woods. He was smiling as he explained and thought it rather funny, then said when he was a lad he used to do the same as what I was doing. It all ended well and I never tried doing that again. This was out of respect for being approached in a polite and friendly manner and being reasonable.
Anyway, I left a comment on the video above saying that I didn't think that was necessary and probably the best way to deal with it is the copper go and have a chat with his mother about it and give a warning. I said that by doing that it should fix the problem. It was interesting to notice the police we pay for in our taxes decided my comment should be censored and was duly deleted. My question to you folk is should the police be promoting themselves on social media and furthermore should they censor public comment from anyone who does not have the same fascist attitude towards our younger generation as they do? Please bear in mind the whole purpose of Youtube is to put your own videos up and have discussions about it. If the police are censoring debate in this way, it indicates they are likely to do the same with any letters of complaint or letters of suggestion from their paymasters. It goes a long way to demonstrate the flaws in the police service as it currently is. It is not serving us, but self-serving and very arrogant.
You’re having a fucking larf Wankers like him used to infest the roads round here most of them delivering product as county lines mules. One such twat decided to turn out of the side road 200 yards up from my car as i drove home, and wheelie straight at me on the wrong side of the road in some fucking insane game of chicken The next day fleeing a drug delivery staged by undercover plod he did sixty up the pavement past the block of flats my grand daughter lives in scattering kids on that pavement in all directions The local bleeding heart liberal twat who seems to repeatedly get elected as one of our councillors held a ratepayers meeting to complain about their usual agenda and stupidly invited the sergeant of the hobby bobbies in the plod shop five miles away whose PSCOs had no vehicles so had to ride buses to get to crime scenes (because said liberal twat had her pal the PCC take their cars off them to save money) I stood up at the Any Other Business and told the stripe wearing wanker to his face his ineptitude and the actions of the utter fuckwit sitting next to him ensured county lines mules raced round our streets with reckless abandon and that seeing as he wasn’t doing anything about it the next one to play a game of chicken like the twat who nearly killed half the kids who lived by my grand daughter was going to find i suddenly froze in horror instead of braking so his head went right under my wheels as a public service because keeping the local addicts up the road in stupor is one thing but being a threat to my grand daughter’s life was another The room erupted in applause and i chose to leave having said my piece before it descended to utter anarchy. Over the next month the force used drones to follow every one of these scum back to the shitholes they crawled out from and then kicked their doors in at 3am It didn’t do much at first because the drug barons replaced the bikes and found new mules but they kept on doing it and we haven’t had a twat on a bike wheelieing up the road for a while and the murders of drug runners up the road have stopped too I’m all for these wankers getting a bit of old time police brutality Well you see all of what you say above tends to follow on later on. This kid was just in the child play stage, simply doing it for fun and without malice. The malice will follow as he learns to hate the establishment. Anyway, in our town we had commons, golf courses, cricket clubs, tennis courts, ancient mansion houses and their grounds and even an iron age hill fort. There was a lot to explore, but where he lives looks like every street is the same as the last. You have to think really hard about where you spend your money. I can think of a lot better ways to spend it than funding lazy brutal police who hate their employers (that's al us lot). Oh and to make matters worse, the councils have in their mighty wisdom, banned all ball games. Many councillors don't have any balls anyway. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 15, 2023 15:52:22 GMT
That that’ kid’ was riding a vehicle like a twat without licence , tax or insurance .
He’s an oxygen thief .
He was old enough to be losing his hair . I reckon 20 or over .
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 15, 2023 15:57:52 GMT
“ Let’s suppose he was just naive and perhaps this was his first encounter with the local constabulary that his parents pay for in their taxes.” You are kidding ? They are probably in a low-paid council job like cleaner. It's the ones at the bottom of the pay scale that actually graft. Those who have mastered the mouth-flapping are the ones that don't. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 15, 2023 16:00:33 GMT
“ Let’s suppose he was just naive and perhaps this was his first encounter with the local constabulary that his parents pay for in their taxes.” You are kidding ? They are probably in a low-paid council job like cleaner. It's the ones at the bottom of the pay scale that actually graft. Those who have mastered the mouth-flapping are the ones that don't. As in the mouth flapping by the idiot in the bike ? You seem to be making a whole stream of assumptions here . |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 15, 2023 16:03:17 GMT
That that’ kid’ was riding a vehicle like a twat without licence , tax or insurance . He’s an oxygen thief . He was old enough to be losing his hair . I reckon 20 or over . Yes but what this vacuous environment does is to stunt mental development. He looked to me that he was still behaving like a child of about 14. He would not have been familiar with the paperwork. This shit is so complicated now anyway. Going back a few decades there were far fewer social rules and far greater leniency. The adults who managed us tended to take a more intelligent approach, and they were more concerned with intention. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 15, 2023 16:05:53 GMT
They are probably in a low-paid council job like cleaner. It's the ones at the bottom of the pay scale that actually graft. Those who have mastered the mouth-flapping are the ones that don't. As in the mouth flapping by the idiot in the bike ? You seem to be making a whole stream of assumptions here . I only have minimal information to work with. I'm just saying what looks most likely. Most of the population are in some kind of employment and the house looks dirt cheap, so chances are they do some low-paid work. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 15, 2023 16:07:53 GMT
As in the mouth flapping by the idiot in the bike ? You seem to be making a whole stream of assumptions here . I only have minimal information to work with. I'm just saying what looks most likely. Most of the population are in some kind of employment and the house looks dirt cheap, so chances are they do some low-paid work. You pulled out more assumptions than that . You have constructed scenario and lifestyle out of nothing . |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 15, 2023 16:09:42 GMT
That that’ kid’ was riding a vehicle like a twat without licence , tax or insurance . He’s an oxygen thief . He was old enough to be losing his hair . I reckon 20 or over . Yes but what this vacuous environment does is to stunt mental development. He looked to me that he was still behaving like a child of about 14. He would not have been familiar with the paperwork. This shit is so complicated now anyway. Going back a few decades there were far fewer social rules and far greater leniency. The adults who managed us tended to take a more intelligent approach, and they were more concerned with intention. It’s not hard to apply for a licence . Maybe his parents are oxygen thieves too. |
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