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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 5, 2023 10:03:15 GMT
I read a report that 3 million of these so called smart meters are not working. Those 3 million create work, and not a single smart meter saves any money, despite what the companies tell you. Version 1 smart meters were not transferable to a new supplier. Most non working meters fall into this category, you changed supplier and now need a new Issue 2 meter Several fitting companies fell foul of customer service goals. Lowry Beck for example came here, wrongly condemned my gas hob and disconnected my heating leaving two medically vulnerable customers without the means to heat their home on a December day with temperature below zero The man from Transco was on my doorstop in 15 minutes. He quickly pronounced my admittedly ‘elderly and showing signs of great use’ gas hob totally safe and entirely serviceable. His language when told Lowry Beck’s meter fitters had condemned it and recommended a company to fit a new one (at twice the cost of others) was unparliamentary. I wrote to the regulator saying these people had clearly corruptly condemned my existing cooker and when i refused their ‘offer’ had disconnected my gas leaving two medically vulnerable individuals without gas heating in December with the outside temp minus two. I said it seemed clear they saw an ill, registered vulnerable customer in his sixties as easy pickings. The man from Transco submitted his own findings in response to the regulator’s request. He stated on arrival he found the home unheated, the gas disconnected and the appliances condemned by the meter fitters to be ‘over ten years old but totally safe and legal and perfectly usable’ Lowry Beck had the licence to fit these meters taken off them |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2023 11:26:49 GMT
The energy companies were given incentives to fit these meters. I don't suppose there is any incentive 2nd time around.
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 5, 2023 12:29:53 GMT
The energy companies were given incentives to fit these meters. I don't suppose there is any incentive 2nd time around. They are sending out letters/texts making out it's compulsory issued by the government, they are trying all tactics to get them installed, they are basically in charge of your energy supply and billing....... No thanks. |
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Post by jonksy on Dec 5, 2023 13:03:06 GMT
The energy companies were given incentives to fit these meters. I don't suppose there is any incentive 2nd time around. They are sending out letters/texts making out it's compulsory issued by the government, they are trying all tactics to get them installed, they are basically in charge of your energy supply and billing....... No thanks. They are nothing more than a con mate. They do not work if you change providers so you have to have another one installed if you do switch providers. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 5, 2023 13:10:57 GMT
They are sending out letters/texts making out it's compulsory issued by the government, they are trying all tactics to get them installed, they are basically in charge of your energy supply and billing....... No thanks. They are nothing more than a con mate. They do not work if you change providers so you have to have another one installed if you do switch providers. Yes, these meters are having customers in tears, and they certainly aren't saving them money, and anyone who falls in to debt the energy providers can remotely put them on Prepayment metering, meaning their tariffs will be higher, so actually will cause even more fuel poverty. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 5, 2023 13:14:06 GMT
Urgent signs your smart meter is overcharging you as millions of Brits 'suffering' after error If you're hit with an unexpected energy bill - it could be a sign your smart meter isn't working properly. Here's what to look out for, what you need to do, and your rights explained www.mirror.co.uk/money/urgent-signs-your-smart-meter-31590919 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2023 13:46:20 GMT
We lived in a rental with old meters and we switched to British Gas who gave us a better rate if we had a smart meter.
OK. So they installed the meters and they never sent the readings to the servers via the cell phone system. Well, sometimes the electricity got sent, never the gas and never up to date.
We lived line of sight to the cell phone transmitter, perfect signal.
When I reported it British Gas said the meters could not communicate with each other. They were on opposite sides of the same wall for goodness sake!
British Gas sent me monthly emails asking me to read the meters. I refused. That didn't go well, either!
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 5, 2023 14:32:53 GMT
They are sending out letters/texts making out it's compulsory issued by the government, they are trying all tactics to get them installed, they are basically in charge of your energy supply and billing....... No thanks. They are nothing more than a con mate. They do not work if you change providers so you have to have another one installed if you do switch providers. not entirely true Type 1 meters were indeed not able to switch providers My own Type 2 meter was readily transferred from Octopus to British Gas. |
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Post by jonksy on Dec 5, 2023 14:44:51 GMT
They are nothing more than a con mate. They do not work if you change providers so you have to have another one installed if you do switch providers. not entirely true Type 1 meters were indeed not able to switch providers My own Type 2 meter was readily transferred from Octopus to British Gas. Half of smart meters stop working when you switch energy firm
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Post by borchester on Dec 5, 2023 16:31:24 GMT
I got a call about one of those a while back, whereupon the I asked how much it would cut my bill by.
The lass rattled on about how much easier it would make my life and net zero and such and I replied that climbing a ladder to read the lecky meter was about the only exercise I got and I reckoned that the best place for a polar bear was as a rug in the front room, so could we just talk money.
But she didn't and I am not getting a meter installed.
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 6, 2023 14:10:12 GMT
not entirely true Type 1 meters were indeed not able to switch providers My own Type 2 meter was readily transferred from Octopus to British Gas. Half of smart meters stop working when you switch energy firm
I’ll see your quote from which And raise you this one saying the very opposite from moneysavingexpert ‘ Of the 31 million smart meters installed across homes in Great Britain so far, about 15 million are SMETS 2 meters. A further 10 million SMETS 1 meters have been upgraded to restore smart functionality. SMETS 1: This is the first generation of smart meter technology, known as SMETS 1 ('Smart Metering Equipment Technical Specifications'). They communicate with your supplier over the 3G network. When you switch energy supplier, it's unlikely the new supplier will be able to pick up that communication, so they'll still work as basic meters but they'll go 'dumb' and lose some functionality. These are no longer being installed, and there is an ongoing plan in place to upgrade those already installed to restore lost functionality and enable them to remain 'smart' if you switch in future. For full info, see Can I switch with smart meters? SMETS 2: If you've had smart meters installed over the last few years, or you're set to get them, you'll have a second-generation SMETS 2 meter. These use their own communications systems via a central data network to which all suppliers have access. So when you switch, your new supplier should be able to see your usage and meter readings, and your in-home display should show you your usage with the new supplier's costs.’ |
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Post by jonksy on Dec 6, 2023 14:18:53 GMT
Half of smart meters stop working when you switch energy firm
I’ll see your quote from which And raise you this one saying the very opposite from moneysavingexpert ‘ Of the 31 million smart meters installed across homes in Great Britain so far, about 15 million are SMETS 2 meters. A further 10 million SMETS 1 meters have been upgraded to restore smart functionality. SMETS 1: This is the first generation of smart meter technology, known as SMETS 1 ('Smart Metering Equipment Technical Specifications'). They communicate with your supplier over the 3G network. When you switch energy supplier, it's unlikely the new supplier will be able to pick up that communication, so they'll still work as basic meters but they'll go 'dumb' and lose some functionality. These are no longer being installed, and there is an ongoing plan in place to upgrade those already installed to restore lost functionality and enable them to remain 'smart' if you switch in future. For full info, see Can I switch with smart meters? SMETS 2: If you've had smart meters installed over the last few years, or you're set to get them, you'll have a second-generation SMETS 2 meter. These use their own communications systems via a central data network to which all suppliers have access. So when you switch, your new supplier should be able to see your usage and meter readings, and your in-home display should show you your usage with the new supplier's costs.’ I see your point John. But it seems that energy companies are more concerned about supplying new meters rather than upgrading the older ones which have already been installed. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2023 15:40:43 GMT
Where we live now, we had smart meters installed by Scottish Power and they work perfectly. Why British Gas could not get their meters to work beats me!
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Post by jonksy on Dec 6, 2023 16:19:27 GMT
Where we live now, we had smart meters installed by Scottish Power and they work perfectly. Why British Gas could not get their meters to work beats me! Perhaps theirs run on gas mate.....LOL |
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Post by jonksy on Dec 19, 2023 13:35:44 GMT
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