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Post by Bentley on Nov 12, 2023 18:43:25 GMT
Save us from the white self hating, lefties 🥹 We don't hate ourselves nearly as much as we hate some of you righties, lol. Nothing personal. I agree. Lefties have plenty of hate for everyone 👍
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Post by wapentake on Nov 12, 2023 18:58:09 GMT
I doubt if any of them are members of Hamas. I dont think that i can ever understand or forgive Isreal for the international war crimes or disproportionate retaliation they have shown. A civilised country with a civilised government would have negotiated. Not attempted to commit genocide. We have two extremist governments in opodition...DEFINED BY RELIGION. A piss on both sides while tiny newborns die. I just wonder what we are as an advanced species. If we werent top of the food chain, something would develop a chemical to wipe us out. We poison the world. And we elevate those who poison us all. I am retiring to my quiet life and stop thinking i can do anything. More dispute is pointless. Especially here. I can only work towards a better objective education . To try to make a real difference. It aint here. Can’t say I always agree with you and as others have said nothing said here has any effect whatsoever. However it’s clear you aren’t intellectually challenged and a forum is a poorer place without diverse thoughts,ideals and beliefs I don’t doubt some might want a place devoid of what they call lefty’s and if all the rightys weren’t here too what a boring place it would be.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 12, 2023 19:08:41 GMT
I doubt if any of them are members of Hamas. I dont think that i can ever understand or forgive Isreal for the international war crimes or disproportionate retaliation they have shown. A civilised country with a civilised government would have negotiated. Not attempted to commit genocide. We have two extremist governments in opodition...DEFINED BY RELIGION. A piss on both sides while tiny newborns die. I just wonder what we are as an advanced species. If we werent top of the food chain, something would develop a chemical to wipe us out. We poison the world. And we elevate those who poison us all. I am retiring to my quiet life and stop thinking i can do anything. More dispute is pointless. Especially here. I can only work towards a better objective education . To try to make a real difference. It aint here. Can’t say I always agree with you and as others have said nothing said here has any effect whatsoever. However it’s clear you aren’t intellectually challenged and a forum is a poorer place without diverse thoughts,ideals and beliefs I don’t doubt some might want a place devoid of what they call lefty’s and if all the rightys weren’t here too what a boring place it would be. You are wrong of course about making a difference, people do listen you just don't see them.
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Post by Orac on Nov 12, 2023 19:28:35 GMT
There is an easy way to avoid all retaliation. Don't attack someone. I wonder what other Jews around the world think about that, with such a rise in antisemitism, I somehow doubt they voted Likud. I thought your biggest concern was retaliation. If so, just stop firing rockets and tying jews alive in burning cars.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 12, 2023 19:31:08 GMT
I wonder what other Jews around the world think about that, with such a rise in antisemitism, I somehow doubt they voted Likud. I thought your biggest concern was retaliation. If so, just stop firing rockets and tying jews alive in burning cars. If it were just retaliation, then what about shooting peaceful protesters?
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Post by Orac on Nov 12, 2023 19:33:22 GMT
I thought your biggest concern was retaliation. If so, just stop firing rockets and tying jews alive in burning cars. If it were just retaliation, then what about shooting peaceful protesters? You may be aiming to high. Do what you can.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2023 19:50:38 GMT
This where Hamas screwed up - Netanyahu was clinging onto power by his finger nails and the attack on the 7th has re-energised his administration and made his position more secure. There is no pressure on Netanyahu to end the war as when he does normal politics will be resumed and he will be out of office on his ear. But then the palestinians have never been very savvy Every time the great unwashed go out to protest the judicial reforms in Tel Aviv, the sirens go off and they run back in again. Meanwhile, the complete coalition war government are happily getting along really fine. Netanyahu has governed the country for 16 years, on and off, so he must be doing something right.
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Post by dodgydave on Nov 12, 2023 19:53:33 GMT
300,000 people marching, mainstream media, politicians etc pretending it is a 75 year old conflict that can be solved by "the Jews" being kind to the Palestians.
They are all wrong, the history of this region / religion goes back 3500 years, and the beef between Muslims and the Jews goes back 1300 years.
Think of the stupidity of going on a march to protest again the actions of 3rd parties, involved in over a thousand years of conflict... You might as well start a quest to stop dogs hating cats ffs.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 12, 2023 19:54:53 GMT
If it were just retaliation, then what about shooting peaceful protesters? You may be aiming to high. Do what you can. The EU have already taken up the baton, they are very unlikely to mess with the British people as they know it would be against their interests.
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Post by see2 on Nov 12, 2023 22:24:39 GMT
This where Hamas screwed up - Netanyahu was clinging onto power by his finger nails and the attack on the 7th has re-energised his administration and made his position more secure. There is no pressure on Netanyahu to end the war as when he does normal politics will be resumed and he will be out of office on his ear. But then the palestinians have never been very savvy Every time the great unwashed go out to protest the judicial reforms in Tel Aviv, the sirens go off and they run back in again. Meanwhile, the complete coalition war government are happily getting along really fine. Netanyahu has governed the country for 16 years, on and off, so he must be doing something right. He is just bowing to the wishes of the majority of his people who were and are fed up of continually being attacked by the Arabs in one form or another. As far as Likud is concerned if they won't allow us to live in peace we have no option but to take greater control in the area. Likud-ites using the Arabs actions in order to do things they probably wanted to do anyway, but without Arab aggression would have, in their minds no real excuse.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 12, 2023 22:31:44 GMT
This where Hamas screwed up - Netanyahu was clinging onto power by his finger nails and the attack on the 7th has re-energised his administration and made his position more secure. There is no pressure on Netanyahu to end the war as when he does normal politics will be resumed and he will be out of office on his ear. But then the palestinians have never been very savvy Every time the great unwashed go out to protest the judicial reforms in Tel Aviv, the sirens go off and they run back in again. Meanwhile, the complete coalition war government are happily getting along really fine. Netanyahu has governed the country for 16 years, on and off, so he must be doing something right. He is massively unpopular and has split the country with his proposed reforms - he was out of a job fairly soon. But thanks to Hamas, his Government has had a new lease of life - the idea that that the right in Israel need the jihadist Palestinians and the Jihadist Palestinians need the right in Israel seems to be getting born out.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 12, 2023 22:56:54 GMT
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Nov 13, 2023 0:05:50 GMT
"A 2021 poll of Jewish voters, conducted by the nonpartisan Jewish Electorate Institute, shows that pro-Palestinian views in the American Jewish community are far from fringe. At the time, 25 percent of the Jews surveyed believed Israel was an apartheid state, 34 percent believed that Israel’s treatment of Palestinians was similar to racism in the U.S., and 22 percent thought that Israel was committing genocide against Palestinians. These numbers are even starker for younger American Jews".
An ADL (Anti Defamation League) spokesperson speaking of Jewish groups critical of Israel : "It is important to note that these are radical fringe Jewish organizations and being Jewish does not exempt an organization or a person from being antisemitic.”
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Post by sheepy on Nov 13, 2023 8:59:16 GMT
"A 2021 poll of Jewish voters, conducted by the nonpartisan Jewish Electorate Institute, shows that pro-Palestinian views in the American Jewish community are far from fringe. At the time, 25 percent of the Jews surveyed believed Israel was an apartheid state, 34 percent believed that Israel’s treatment of Palestinians was similar to racism in the U.S., and 22 percent thought that Israel was committing genocide against Palestinians. These numbers are even starker for younger American Jews". An ADL (Anti Defamation League) spokesperson speaking of Jewish groups critical of Israel : "It is important to note that these are radical fringe Jewish organizations and being Jewish does not exempt an organization or a person from being antisemitic.” So even Jews are not free to voice their distaste for the murderous Israeli regime. Which incidentally has been going on for decades, so even Jews might notice eventually.
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Post by see2 on Nov 13, 2023 10:01:32 GMT
"A 2021 poll of Jewish voters, conducted by the nonpartisan Jewish Electorate Institute, shows that pro-Palestinian views in the American Jewish community are far from fringe. At the time, 25 percent of the Jews surveyed believed Israel was an apartheid state, 34 percent believed that Israel’s treatment of Palestinians was similar to racism in the U.S., and 22 percent thought that Israel was committing genocide against Palestinians. These numbers are even starker for younger American Jews". An ADL (Anti Defamation League) spokesperson speaking of Jewish groups critical of Israel : "It is important to note that these are radical fringe Jewish organizations and being Jewish does not exempt an organization or a person from being antisemitic.” So even Jews are not free to voice their distaste for the murderous Israeli regime. Which incidentally has been going on for decades, so even Jews might notice eventually. The Arabs chose aggression quickly morphing into conflict from the day the Ottoman Muslims dropped the chains of Dhimmitude from the Jews in 1858, thus making the Jews equal to the Arabs in Palestine. History shows that the Arabs have continued with that choice right up to today. It is the reason why Likud, a right-wing extremist Party was formed in 1972, and first came to office in 1977.
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