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Post by patman post on Nov 9, 2023 15:34:02 GMT
Compared to the pussies on here he is overqualified. So not having a conviction for violence makes one a "pussy"? And liable for grabbing by Trump...!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 15:40:25 GMT
So not having a conviction for violence makes one a "pussy"? And liable for grabbing by Trump...! Giggles.
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 9, 2023 16:43:57 GMT
Well you say that but the last occasion on which he strutted his ego proved him to be a prize idiot. I managed to acquire a copy of the statement made by the judge who made the reporting restrictions Mr Yaxley-Lennon found so objectionable. The document was available on a cloud server somewhere although I got it from the courts service website. In short Man A had been convicted in court A of some pretty revolting act carried out in cahoots with men B,C,D,E and F Man A was sentenced along with men B through F but was due to appear at a future date to answer a set of similar charges pertaining to a set of similar allegations arising from an occasion in a different location with a different set of individuals P Q R S and T In common with many trials the judge imposed reporting restrictions for the duration of the first, which meant that anyone was free to go to the courtroom and witness the proceedings but none present were permitted to speak of them much less publish their experience In the vast majority of cases those restrictions are lifted after the verdict. In this case the judge directed that no public mention of the proceedings could be made at all until Man A had appeared in the second trial and the result of that was returned by the jury after which all would be free to speak of both. This is again a common measure used where one defendant is to stand trial separately to answer separate charges Newspapers and News websites often use phrases akin to ‘Following the conviction yesterday afternoon of Messrs Sue, Grabbit And Run in such and such a court for the crime of whatever, we are now able to reveal that Mr Grabbit was last month also found guilty in another part of the country for the crimes of this and that’ It is standard judicial practice and far from censorship as Mr Yaxley-Lennon ridiculously alleged, it is done to ensure as far as possible the jury hearing the second case hear it without the knowledge that one of the accused was done last week for the same crime carried out against someone else. It is done because the court at which the convicted criminal is going to stand trial for separate crimes must weigh up guilt and innocence on the basis of fact and testimony presented there, and to reveal one of those charged has only last week been done for a separate offence buggers both the chance of a fair trial on THIS matter for the recently convicted piece of shit, but ALSO screws the fairness of the hearing for those in the dock with said piece of shit I have no interest in defending those scum, but i wish to see them convicted on the basis of evidence presented speaking to the view that they were there and they did it, not on the basis that they did the same thing last week, or were standing in a room with a bloke who did the same thing last month I don’t know what a ‘shill’ is so i don’t know what would make them work for, or against the establishment However, i do know a man prepared to destroy the impartiality of a jury called to hear a case against a bunch of alleged kiddie fiddlers by revealing one of them was busted for a a masterful work of violin playing last month is a prize prick who deserved to be thrown into a jail for contempt and NEVER let out, as our laws already oermit. What you say JOG may or may not be true but it bears no relation to whether Tommy Robinson has the right to protest peacefully or not- and BTW that it is his adopted name so I don't know why you're calling him by another name. He didn't lose all his citizen's rights when he got convicted of contempt of court. First, i think you’ll find it is entirely the truth Second, i do indeed refer to him by the name he was tried in a court of law under. His REAL name. As was pointed out above. Third, and most relevant here, he has a criminal record as a result of acting outside the law, in a way that clearly threatened to deny the victims of a heinous crime the ability to see justice done according to the law of the land. He is a prize prick who clearly either lacks the capacity to see this, has an ego that prevents him from seeing this, or actually wanted to derail a trial in an english court for a crime most heinous. Out of pity for the jerk i choose to believe the reason for his actions derives from the first of those options, that he is genuinely too fucking thick to see the damage he almost caused.
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 10, 2023 8:33:42 GMT
Tommy Robinson is a highly intelligent bloke who sees it as his responsibility to try to call muslim rapists and terrorists to account. Which stands in contrast to our police who just want to facilitate their crimes. As they say, "for evil to flourish it only requires good men to do nothing". Well we have that in spades - our politicians, police and judges are doing nothing. We should be thanking Tommy Robinson for doing his best - not trying to deny him his rights to demonstrate. This guy has to go everywhere with protection because muslim thugs are always try to kill him.
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Post by om15 on Nov 10, 2023 10:11:32 GMT
What I find most depressing is that the culture and future of the indigenous race in Great Britain lies in the hands of a psychopathic football hooligan, it would be nice if those detractors of Mr Robinson and his colleagues actually saw his point of view. What ever crimes, violence and provocation emanate from the Hamas supporters this weekend will be glossed over and the slightest legal infringement by the West Ham supporters will be all over the news. I see that there are now quite a few people ( the Culture Forum) who are making quite strong comments about our current situation, so perhaps not all is lost, Talk TV has been giving it some stick this week.
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 10, 2023 11:20:03 GMT
Tommy Robinson is a highly intelligent bloke who sees it as his responsibility to try to call muslim rapists and terrorists to account. Which stands in contrast to our police who just want to facilitate their crimes. As they say, "for evil to flourish it only requires good men to do nothing". Well we have that in spades - our politicians, police and judges are doing nothing. We should be thanking Tommy Robinson for doing his best - not trying to deny him his rights to demonstrate. This guy has to go everywhere with protection because muslim thugs are always try to kill him. well he cant be all that intelligent. The judge stated unequivocally in his restriction of reporting after the conviction that the press and public were free to report the conviction of ‘Mustapha ShagWithThatSchoolkid’ but NOT until AFTER he is either convicted or acquitted by the jury in the court up the road who are next month considering the evidence he did the very same thing to some other kid with four different men. The document also stated the reason for the temporary restriction on reporting was to ensure there was no risk of the defendants in that second trial being acquitted on the grounds a fair trial was impossible given the public’s knowledge of the defendant’s prior conduct. I put it to you that anyone reading that document and not understanding it is in fact far from being highly intelligent is actually thick as two bricks. And that furthermore anyone with any intelligence who had received that document, which he did, and who set out to make public those convictions knowing it would prejudice the second trial and in all probably cause the acquittal of the defendants for that reason, wants to see them not stand trial. Why that might be is of course the question to answer
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 10, 2023 13:48:09 GMT
I understood your point, first time, JOG - I just think you're a bit naive to believe what our judiciary try to tell you to justify the fact they seem to hold all these "grooming" gang trials in secret. The reason that they do it is because, if they didn't, they'd be all over the papers every week and "damage social cohesion".
And I've always thought that this idea of keeping a defendant's crime record a secret from the jury is bollocks. For a start, in this age of the internet, people can just go home after their day at court and look on the internet to find out about the defendant in the case they're trying. The judge says you're not meant to do it, but ...
But I also happen to believe that the jury is entitled to hear about a defendant's previous crime record. In fact this is now permitted in certain cases. I believe it should happen in all cases. In the case of these bastards who abused non-muslim girls all over the country they seem to have everything working in their favour. It's time for the rules to change.
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Post by om15 on Nov 11, 2023 8:42:53 GMT
In case any members wish to join in.
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 11, 2023 9:34:13 GMT
I understood your point, first time, JOG - I just think you're a bit naive to believe what our judiciary try to tell you to justify the fact they seem to hold all these "grooming" gang trials in secret. The reason that they do it is because, if they didn't, they'd be all over the papers every week and "damage social cohesion". And I've always thought that this idea of keeping a defendant's crime record a secret from the jury is bollocks. For a start, in this age of the internet, people can just go home after their day at court and look on the internet to find out about the defendant in the case they're trying. The judge says you're not meant to do it, but ... But I also happen to believe that the jury is entitled to hear about a defendant's previous crime record. In fact this is now permitted in certain cases. I believe it should happen in all cases. In the case of these bastards who abused non-muslim girls all over the country they seem to have everything working in their favour. It's time for the rules to change. Well you are (at the moment) entitled to your opinion but i want the bastard who firebombed my car because i was trying to cure cancer in ways unacceptable to him put away (actually i would have much preferred put down, that was after all what he had planned for me and i get very old testament 1950’s UK about such) as a result of the jury being shown the crime scene photos of his dabs all over my exhaust, the device and the inside sticky side of the duck tape he used, rather than the statement he was put away fir the same offence this time last year. The CPS are lazy fuckers at the best of time, the least i can expect for the taxes that keep the shitheads in a job is that they get off their arses and present a convincing case on evidence meeting the judges rules ….
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2023 23:05:16 GMT
Two lots of nutters trying to provoke each other with a next to useless Police in the middle. But we all know who will be arrested, vilified and blamed don't we. The IslamoLeft on here are in full flow and as predictable as ever.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 11, 2023 23:06:39 GMT
LOL
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2023 21:17:00 GMT
The pro-Palestine peace march went nowhere near the cenotaph and never intended to. You are just going along with the usual far right drivel.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 12, 2023 21:45:43 GMT
What I find most depressing is that the culture and future of the indigenous race in Great Britain lies in the hands of a psychopathic football hooligan, it would be nice if those detractors of Mr Robinson and his colleagues actually saw his point of view. What ever crimes, violence and provocation emanate from the Hamas supporters this weekend will be glossed over and the slightest legal infringement by the West Ham supporters will be all over the news... Well indeed. As I said: He must know that if he turns up next weekend that he will be blamed for every adverse occurrence whether he's anywhere near it or not. Surely that acts against his stated cause? And he must know that, so why would he undermine his own (alleged) goals? I can't be the only one that smells a rat.
And thus it came to pass: By his own actions Establishment Tommy drew the heat away from his alleged enemies. That's either one impossibly stupid c*nt or one massive establishment shill. Or both, of course.
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 12, 2023 22:35:49 GMT
I thought he'd buggered off to Spain. Why's he still here?
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Post by sheepy on Nov 12, 2023 23:00:06 GMT
I thought he'd buggered off to Spain. Why's he still here? So the government can find ways of banning peaceful protest it seems.
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