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Post by oracle75 on Oct 20, 2023 9:20:26 GMT
Of course. Greatest example of self harm in British political history. Not at all. Greatest example of emancipation in British political history. Is that why you keep wanting to sneak back in by the back door and keeping a large majority of EU regulations and making deals that do you harm , having now at least not bothering anymore. Can you name three UK pieces of legislation made after your emancipation that have benefitted the UK and which could not have been done while still a member of the EU? |
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 20, 2023 20:09:39 GMT
Not at all. Greatest example of emancipation in British political history. Is that why you keep wanting to sneak back in by the back door and keeping a large majority of EU regulations and making deals that do you harm , having now at least not bothering anymore. Can you name three UK pieces of legislation made after your emancipation that have benefitted the UK and which could not have been done while still a member of the EU? I can tell you that London has regained its crown from Paris as the largest stock market in Europe. We're free of you and we're better off out. Read it and weep, after all you couldn't fill your boots quick enough during your Brexit bashing of News that played down the UK's economy. You harped on about investment and all sorts of things, it seems you were wrong as usual:     European nations don't need the EU to survive. Britain has proven this against all the hype. Life goes on and the EU isn't important as it likes to think. We're free and it feels good to not have your meddling technocrats poking their noses into our affairs. |
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Post by oracle75 on Oct 21, 2023 10:00:42 GMT
Is that why you keep wanting to sneak back in by the back door and keeping a large majority of EU regulations and making deals that do you harm , having now at least not bothering anymore. Can you name three UK pieces of legislation made after your emancipation that have benefitted the UK and which could not have been done while still a member of the EU? I can tell you that London has regained its crown from Paris as the largest stock market in Europe. We're free of you and we're better off out. Read it and weep, after all you couldn't fill your boots quick enough during your Brexit bashing of News that played down the UK's economy. You harped on about investment and all sorts of things, it seems you were wrong as usual: European nations don't need the EU to survive. Britain has proven this against all the hype. Life goes on and the EU isn't important as it likes to think. We're free and it feels good to not have your meddling technocrats poking their noses into our affairs. Sorry but your one issue doesnt make sense. Having some conczpt of a larger stock market does not prove any superiority over another. It just means that more business was done at some undefined time than another. I doubt your average voter in the UK would notice. In fact the average voter in the UK is sick to the back teeth of the decline and inefficiency in what matters to them since Brexit and by the government originally elected because of the hollow lying promises that government made. Now try again. Three benefits brought about by Brexit. I TOLD you economoes dont rely on the EU. That each nation is free to orgznise their economies as they see fit. That members were SOVEREIGN. It seems you are slowly...very slowly...coming round to understanding that. Now of you donr want the EU meddling in your affairs, get out of Horizon which you have been begging to get into Get out of all those EU trade deals you rely on Get out of copying EU agricultural priorities Rejoin to avoid all those pesky EU trade regulations Instead of avoiding its interference, you have brought down a cartload of them onto your head. |
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 21, 2023 10:10:42 GMT
- The UK is now sovereign.
- The UK doesn't have meddling interlopers who aren't co-cultural co-governing it anymore.
- The UK makes its own trade deals for its benefit and not the benefit of the French or Germans anymore.
- Wages have gone up.
- End of free movement.
- Money, it doesn't hand over wads of taxpayer's hard earned to keep the technocrats in business.
There's 6 substantial ones off the top of my head.
I noticed you swerved the graphs depicting Britain doing quite alright as an economy all on its lonesome. I remember you nattered on like a broke record about a lack of business investment in the UK. Another obsolete argument.
It doesn't appear you got a man whilst on your short sabbatical, you still seem as bitter and twisted over Brexit since the last time you posted.
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Post by oracle75 on Oct 21, 2023 10:37:58 GMT
- The UK is now sovereign. - The UK doesn't have meddling interlopers who aren't co-cultural co-governing it anymore. - The UK makes its own trade deals for its benefit and not the benefit of the French or Germans anymore. - Wages have gone up. - End of free movement. - Money, it doesn't hand over wads of taxpayer's hard earned to keep the technocrats in business. There's 6 substantial ones off the top of my head. I noticed you swerved the graphs depicting Britain doing quite alright as an economy all on its lonesome. I remember you nattered on like a broke record about a lack of business investment in the UK. Another obsolete argument. It doesn't appear you got a man whilst on your short sabbatical, you still seem as bitter and twisted over Brexit since the last time you posted. First, i omitted your pictures because there was no source supplied and because rhet dont make sense out of context. One or two said the figures were based on 2019 yet took the graph to 2023. They make no sense. The UK and all members have always been sovereign. Your own govt said so. What is "co cultural government"? Something like Scotland, NI and Wales or multi cultural like the UK? You are paying wads of cash to the customs of the EU members for the privilege of trading with them, which used to be free. And wads of cash to cherry pick the programmes the EU lets you into. Your own trade deals are laughed at by your trading partners. As for governing on behalf of the British people, where do I start??? Wages have gone up everywhere. The UK has one of the highest differentizls between wages and prices in Europe and rhe most strikes in public services over the last two years. And your inward investment is still one of the smallest in Europe. Try again. |
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 21, 2023 15:16:55 GMT
- The UK is now sovereign. - The UK doesn't have meddling interlopers who aren't co-cultural co-governing it anymore. - The UK makes its own trade deals for its benefit and not the benefit of the French or Germans anymore. - Wages have gone up. - End of free movement. - Money, it doesn't hand over wads of taxpayer's hard earned to keep the technocrats in business. There's 6 substantial ones off the top of my head. I noticed you swerved the graphs depicting Britain doing quite alright as an economy all on its lonesome. I remember you nattered on like a broke record about a lack of business investment in the UK. Another obsolete argument. It doesn't appear you got a man whilst on your short sabbatical, you still seem as bitter and twisted over Brexit since the last time you posted. First, i omitted your pictures because there was no source supplied and because rhet dont make sense out of context. One or two said the figures were based on 2019 yet took the graph to 2023. They make no sense. The UK and all members have always been sovereign. Your own govt said so. What is "co cultural government"? Something like Scotland, NI and Wales or multi cultural like the UK? You are paying wads of cash to the customs of the EU members for the privilege of trading with them, which used to be free. And wads of cash to cherry pick the programmes the EU lets you into. Your own trade deals are laughed at by your trading partners. As for governing on behalf of the British people, where do I start??? Wages have gone up everywhere. The UK has one of the highest differentizls between wages and prices in Europe and rhe most strikes in public services over the last two years. And your inward investment is still one of the smallest in Europe. Try again. I don't need to try again. Your pathetic and childlike rebuttal to the facts tell me that. You need to try harder. |
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Post by oracle75 on Oct 21, 2023 16:50:22 GMT
No you dont need to try again.
There is no honest rebuttal.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 21, 2023 18:18:41 GMT
Is that why you keep wanting to sneak back in by the back door and keeping a large majority of EU regulations and making deals that do you harm , having now at least not bothering anymore. Can you name three UK pieces of legislation made after your emancipation that have benefitted the UK and which could not have been done while still a member of the EU? You seem incapable of understanding, or accepting, that although the UK do indeed still work under EU rules & regs it has nothing to do with the electorate. As I've said a thousand times the civil service and 70% of MP's are pro EU and behind closed doors they don't give a damn about the referendum result. They have a very EU centric approach to democracy. When you say "you" want to keep EU regs you are wrong. What you mean is, pro EU politicians want to keep EU regs. There's a world of difference. |
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 21, 2023 23:07:24 GMT
No you dont need to try again. There is no honest rebuttal. I agree you haven't made an honest rebuttal. You asked for three benefits of Brexit. I gave you six off the top of my head - real, substantial benefits. You then resorted to using stupidity when you didn't like the facts thrown at you. Jog on. |
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Post by oracle75 on Oct 22, 2023 9:07:59 GMT
Is that why you keep wanting to sneak back in by the back door and keeping a large majority of EU regulations and making deals that do you harm , having now at least not bothering anymore. Can you name three UK pieces of legislation made after your emancipation that have benefitted the UK and which could not have been done while still a member of the EU? You seem incapable of understanding, or accepting, that although the UK do indeed still work under EU rules & regs it has nothing to do with the electorate. As I've said a thousand times the civil service and 70% of MP's are pro EU and behind closed doors they don't give a damn about the referendum result. They have a very EU centric approach to democracy. When you say "you" want to keep EU regs you are wrong. What you mean is, pro EU politicians want to keep EU regs. There's a world of difference. Or maybe the rules just make sense. |
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Post by oracle75 on Oct 22, 2023 9:08:59 GMT
No you dont need to try again. There is no honest rebuttal. I agree you haven't made an honest rebuttal. You asked for three benefits of Brexit. I gave you six off the top of my head - real, substantial benefits. You then resorted to using stupidity when you didn't like the facts thrown at you. Jog on. Factually incorrect opinions are not reasons. Try again. |
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 22, 2023 9:11:13 GMT
I agree you haven't made an honest rebuttal. You asked for three benefits of Brexit. I gave you six off the top of my head - real, substantial benefits. You then resorted to using stupidity when you didn't like the facts thrown at you. Jog on. Factually incorrect opinions are not reasons. Try again. Do fuck off troll. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 24, 2023 11:59:11 GMT
You seem incapable of understanding, or accepting, that although the UK do indeed still work under EU rules & regs it has nothing to do with the electorate. As I've said a thousand times the civil service and 70% of MP's are pro EU and behind closed doors they don't give a damn about the referendum result. They have a very EU centric approach to democracy. When you say "you" want to keep EU regs you are wrong. What you mean is, pro EU politicians want to keep EU regs. There's a world of difference. Or maybe the rules just make sense. Indeed, regardless of the wishes of the majority. As Mikhail Gorbachev famously said: "The most puzzling development in politics is the apparent determination of Western European leaders to recreate the Soviet Union in Western Europe". |
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Post by dappy on Oct 24, 2023 13:01:00 GMT
The usual old cliches are pouring out of you red.
Give me three "EU" rules and regulations currently in force you would like to change.
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Post by Vinny on Oct 24, 2023 14:10:27 GMT
You never complained when the Brexit bashing threads took place, Mr. BBC. Of course. Greatest example of self harm in British political history. In what way was it "self harm"? |
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