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Post by jaydee on Nov 5, 2022 0:05:27 GMT
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Post by piglet on Nov 5, 2022 13:02:17 GMT
Britain must have the ability to decide for ourselves our fate. Britain can accept or reject anything, the key is to be in control, not a faceless judge or politician elsewhere. In all things. We can agree to let the French kill our sea beds, but we decide. We can pander to the EU in whatever way, but we decide, when where or if.
If we allow others to do that we are in trouble, and we have been, drained of money over countless years, building sewers in Kracow, bus shelters in Rovinj etc.
Who can disgree with that?
EU reguulations, for FS. None of it pro British. International law, do me a favour, the french break it daily in numerous ways, only the british feel guilty about breaking it. We need assertiveness. If it doesnt serve us, bin it, and we can choose who to help, not have it imposed.
This is what Brexit was about. As for democracy, anything not left is a dictatorship. Its that kind of talk that leads to wars. We need to build camps on a scottish island to put immigrants there, get the navy to pick them up. Sort out who is a proper immigrant and who isnt, change the law to get shot of the rest. EU rules should be ignored over NI, hang the consequences, because we can do that to. NI can become part of Eire, through a vote. Or not. Thats how its always been.
You will be amazed how accomodating the world will be. Thats got to come, its the only way. And with assertiveness comes confidence, self respect, energy, control over ourselves, self love, a new birth.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2022 13:16:04 GMT
We ban French Trwalers ( which we have agreed to allow ) The French ban imports of UK shellfish, Scottish salmon and othe UK fish - No Winners, only losers.
We ignore the Northern Ireland Protocol ( which we agreed to and signed ) The EU imposes sanctions, a trade dispute could arise, no one wins, there are only losers.
The French DO NOT break EU regulations, they abide by them, and they are designed to protect the consumor, to ensure high standards of animal welfare, to ensure safety, to protect farmers, fishermen, businesses and manufacturers.
EU regulations take into consideration WORKERS RIGHTS and employment rights, including health & safety.
Under ANY Conservative government, ANY British equivelant laws would weaken these regulations, remove protections for workers ( the Tories call it "Red Tape" ), they would abandon the Working Time Directives, which protect workers. The Conservatives would weaken protections for consumors and animal welfare regulations, simply to obtain a Free Trade Deal with the United States.
I am British - I am European - I want the best regulations in the world, for me, my fellow citizens, for workers, and for animals, for everyone. I would rather keep our European regulations
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Post by patman post on Nov 5, 2022 13:28:50 GMT
If nothing is going to change what is the point of Brexit? - the people voted for change, now you are suggesting they shouldn't have any change... I thought the main reason for leaving the EU was that so Britain could go back to the rose tinted memories of the ‘50s and ‘60s with a dash of Victoriana and Empire thrown in…
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Post by sandypine on Nov 5, 2022 13:32:39 GMT
The French DO NOT break EU regulations, they abide by them, and they are designed to protect the consumor, to ensure high standards of animal welfare, to ensure safety, to protect farmers, fishermen, businesses and manufacturers. Ha!!! You really need to take a trip to France and observe the chickens running in and out of the food preparation areas that British producers were obliged to close down their businesses for. There were a lot of bitter people in 93 and beyond especially when they went to France and saw them doing what teh Brits had been banned from doing.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 5, 2022 14:01:39 GMT
The French DO NOT break EU regulations, they abide by them, and they are designed to protect the consumor, to ensure high standards of animal welfare, to ensure safety, to protect farmers, fishermen, businesses and manufacturers. You claim the French do not break EU regulations, all I can say to that is a very loud, Ha. This from 20 years ago: FRANCE has the worst record of all European countries for flouting European Union regulations and failing to implement community directives - www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/1390081/French-head-league-for-EU-rule-breaking.htmlNothing changes, 20 years later the French are still at it: France gets away with breaking EU rules on its budget deficit every year - www.marketwatch.com/story/how-france-gets-away-with-breaking-eu-rules-on-its-budget-deficit-every-year-2019-10-25
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 6, 2022 11:40:22 GMT
You do know Farage is a right wing fascist... There's no such thing as a right wing fascist. As I keep having to explain to you: A Nazi is a “National Socialist”. Nationalism is “...identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of others...” (Rather like your own Scots Nats). And Socialism “...is a left-wing economic philosophy characterized by the dominance of social ownership of the means of production as opposed to private ownership”So nationalists can be left or right wing (although wrongly lefties think that nationalism is exclusively right wing), but socialism is left wing. So Nazis are left wing. And Fascism, “...is an ultra-nationalist ideology. As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer...”So again, fascism is left wing hence there is no such thing as a “Right Wing fascist”. And whilst Nigel might be described as a nationalist, I doubt that many would describe him as a socialist. I hope this helps your confusion.
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Post by om15 on Nov 6, 2022 11:50:48 GMT
I suspect it will take much more than easily understandable explanations and simple facts to achieve that. On another thread I posted an article from the Daily Telegraph and Jaydee wrote "And I do not believe one word coming from your Jock hating gob. You have no credibility."
It is like trying to get a eight month toddler on crack cocaine to count to five.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2022 12:43:41 GMT
WIKIPEDIA
Nazism (German: Nazismus) (/ˈnɑːtsiɪzəm, ˈnæt-/ NA(H)T-see-iz-əm),[1] the common name in English for National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus, German: [natsi̯oˈnaːlzotsi̯aˌlɪsmʊs] (listen)), is the far right [2] totalitarian[3] political ideology and practices associated with Adolf Hitler
OXFORD DICTIONARY
a member of the far - right National Socialist German Workers' Party.
COLLINS DICTIONARY
The Nazis were members of the right-wing political party, led by Adolf Hitler, which held power in Germany from 1933 to 1945.
To say that "Nazi" is not the best example of the Far Right or extreme Right is the equivelant of defying gravity
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Post by jaydee on Nov 6, 2022 13:02:08 GMT
You do know Farage is a right wing fascist... There's no such thing as a right wing fascist. As I keep having to explain to you: A Nazi is a “National Socialist”. Nationalism is “...identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of others...” (Rather like your own Scots Nats). And Socialism “...is a left-wing economic philosophy characterized by the dominance of social ownership of the means of production as opposed to private ownership”So nationalists can be left or right wing (although wrongly lefties think that nationalism is exclusively right wing), but socialism is left wing. So Nazis are left wing. And Fascism, “...is an ultra-nationalist ideology. As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalist veneer...”So again, fascism is left wing hence there is no such thing as a “Right Wing fascist”. And whilst Nigel might be described as a nationalist, I doubt that many would describe him as a socialist. I hope this helps your confusion. The rest of the world call Right wing neo Nazi a Right wing Neo Nazi. Jings The rest of the world call a right wing fascist a right wing fascist. Jings. As once again you demonstrate your total inability to understand your own political leaning. And Farage is a right wing fascist. As he teams up with the grand daughter of Hitters goons. Along with European Right wing Nazis and Right wing fascist. As for months I have been waiting on this link from you pointing to left wing Neo Nazis and Left wing fascists. And you still have not told me if you paint L and R on your shoes when you dress in the morning. You seem to be direction challenged. .As you rfant the National Health Service and the English National Football team are Nazis. I am sure they will, shall we say. Disagree, Fascism is based upon Italian nationalism. Which your pal Adolph adopted. I hope this helps your confusion. alphahistory.com/nazigermany/hitler-and-mussolini/
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Post by vlk on Nov 6, 2022 14:15:22 GMT
Imagine how terrible France must be as a prison camp is preferable.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 6, 2022 16:47:44 GMT
If nothing is going to change what is the point of Brexit? - the people voted for change, now you are suggesting they shouldn't have any change... I thought the main reason for leaving the EU was that so Britain could go back to the rose tinted memories of the ‘50s and ‘60s with a dash of Victoriana and Empire thrown in… Never mind - one day you will get over it. Life moves on..
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 6, 2022 16:49:56 GMT
I thought the main reason for leaving the EU was that so Britain could go back to the rose tinted memories of the ‘50s and ‘60s with a dash of Victoriana and Empire thrown in… Never mind - one day you will get over it. Life moves on.. LOL
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Post by jonksy on Nov 6, 2022 16:53:35 GMT
Never mind - one day you will get over it. Life moves on.. LOL Funny how these twats who support the EUSSR never piss off there isn't it? Lack of benefits in their utopian world maybe who knows?
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 6, 2022 17:02:39 GMT
Funny how these twats who support the EUSSR never piss off there isn't it? Lack of benefits in their utopian world maybe who knows? I was made up when we had the referendum, loads of celebs in the UK said they would move if it was a vote to leave the EU .... I see the fuckers are still here.
I'd have gladly paid for their removal vans to fuck them off to France.
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