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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2023 8:57:12 GMT
Well yes I agree, thinking back I've driven all sorts of vehicles over the years and in all sorts of conditions the vast majority of which, in fact all of them I think, had diesel engines. Yet in spite of the conditions I am struggling to remember an engine that burst into flames. As you know diesel has quite a high flash point which in most conditions makes it safer than petrol, and a damned sight safer than electric. When I worked in North London a few years ago the factory next door leaked 1000 litres of diesel into our small shared courtyard. I phone the fire brigade and they said that it was not a great danger . Had that been petrol we probably would of been evacuated immediately. The Hazchem marker for diesel is 3Y 1202 The Hazchem marker for petrol is 3YE 1203 The E is for evacuate.  |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 12, 2023 9:50:25 GMT
...The more concerning point is that the multi-storey car park is reported to have had no sprinkler system... Why? Water isn't appropriate for fuel fires and EVs require total immersion to deprive the fire of oxygen. |
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Post by patman post on Oct 12, 2023 10:06:01 GMT
...The more concerning point is that the multi-storey car park is reported to have had no sprinkler system... Why? Water isn't appropriate for fuel fires and EVs require total immersion to deprive the fire of oxygen. Andrew Hopkinson, chief fire officer for Bedfordshire Fire and Rescue Service, said there were no sprinklers in the car park, which is described on the airport's own website as "brand new". Mr Hopkinson told reporters at the scene: “We are already talking to the airport about ensuring that any future, and the existing, car parks have sprinklers fitted because this building is not sprinkler protected.” He added: “Sprinklers may have made a positive impact on this incident.” www.itv.com/news/anglia/2023-10-11/fire-hit-airport-car-park-did-not-have-sprinkler-systemI guess from the Chief Fire Officer’s comment that other combustibles would have been made less flammable if sprinklers had been activated. There’s also the point that not all sprinklers discharge water — depending on the environment, some use chemical mixtures… |
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 12, 2023 10:23:11 GMT
Given the fact that in all probability it won't be the last car suddenly combusting and shooting out jet flames; be ready for more diesel engines instantaneously turning into raging infernos in a future near you.
The media and the truth are now a thing of the past.
The EV cover up has started.
They're dicing with people's lives. Appalling.
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Post by patman post on Oct 12, 2023 13:09:50 GMT
Well yes I agree, thinking back I've driven all sorts of vehicles over the years and in all sorts of conditions the vast majority of which, in fact all of them I think, had diesel engines. Yet in spite of the conditions I am struggling to remember an engine that burst into flames. As you know diesel has quite a high flash point which in most conditions makes it safer than petrol, and a damned sight safer than electric. When I worked in North London a few years ago the factory next door leaked 1000 litres of diesel into our small shared courtyard. I phone the fire brigade and they said that it was not a great danger . Had that been petrol we probably would of been evacuated immediately. Was that fuel exposed to extreme heat as found in a running, or recently run, engine bay? It's a known cause of diesel vehicle fires...
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Post by Bentley on Oct 12, 2023 13:19:25 GMT
When I worked in North London a few years ago the factory next door leaked 1000 litres of diesel into our small shared courtyard. I phone the fire brigade and they said that it was not a great danger . Had that been petrol we probably would of been evacuated immediately. Was that fuel exposed to extreme heat as found in a running, or recently run, engine bay...?
No. As I said in a previous post , you can throw a match into a can of diesel and it will probably go out . |
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 12, 2023 18:25:43 GMT
Sorry what is the evidence, beyond political prejudice, that this fire started with an electric car? Once started given the close proximity of parked cars, not surprising hat it seemingly spread so rapidly I’ll have a look at the photographs recently released. That it started in A car is obvious from the photographs i have seen today |
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 12, 2023 18:29:46 GMT
You're not in the clear yet Dappy. It's just been reported on the 4pm GB News bulletin that the Luton airport fire was caused by a lithium battery on a diesel car. there ARE diesel hybrids. They may not be as numerous as petrol ones but they exist and they’re pretty damn good to judge by the one my pal has. |
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