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Oct 8, 2023 22:09:47 GMT
Post by Montegriffo on Oct 8, 2023 22:09:47 GMT
You have heard of jokes haven't you Care Bear? Remember when you were supporting Count Dankula's right to ask his Nazi saluting dog if he wanted to gas the Jews? Oh - so calls for violence against right-wing peoples are 'jokes' and calls for violence against left-wing people are acts worthy of hanging... yeah... Neither was a call for violence but Dankula's comedy was ruled grossly offensive in a court of law. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2023 22:10:48 GMT
You have heard of jokes haven't you Care Bear? Remember when you were supporting Count Dankula's right to ask his Nazi saluting dog if he wanted to gas the Jews? Oh - so calls for violence against right-wing peoples are 'jokes' and calls for violence against left-wing people are acts worthy of hanging... yeah... When it comes to shameless hypocrisy he is ahead of the game. |
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Oct 9, 2023 7:28:49 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2023 7:28:49 GMT
Why are people bickering about Labour?
GBNews are shameless hypocrites.
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Post by steppenwolf on Oct 9, 2023 7:59:27 GMT
Ohh right, well that's obviously OK then. You have heard of jokes haven't you Care Bear? Remember when you were supporting Count Dankula's right to ask his Nazi saluting dog if he wanted to gas the Jews? I do think that comedy should be given a certain amount of latitude when it comes to the law. But I think that the nearer to the "edge" you get with a joke, the funnier the joke has to be to get away with it. The problem with Jo Brand's "joke" was that it simply wasn't funny at all. And the danger of "jokes" like that is that they put ideas in the mind of sick people who are mad enough to carry it out. I think that this was a clear case of "incitement" and should have been prosecuted. And if it had been directed at, say Keir Starmer, it probably would have been prosecuted. |
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Oct 9, 2023 13:32:28 GMT
Post by Montegriffo on Oct 9, 2023 13:32:28 GMT
You have heard of jokes haven't you Care Bear? Remember when you were supporting Count Dankula's right to ask his Nazi saluting dog if he wanted to gas the Jews? I do think that comedy should be given a certain amount of latitude when it comes to the law. But I think that the nearer to the "edge" you get with a joke, the funnier the joke has to be to get away with it. The problem with Jo Brand's "joke" was that it simply wasn't funny at all. And the danger of "jokes" like that is that they put ideas in the mind of sick people who are mad enough to carry it out. I think that this was a clear case of "incitement" and should have been prosecuted. And if it had been directed at, say Keir Starmer, it probably would have been prosecuted. I don't think either was particularly funny but I also don't think either was intended to incite violence and the chances of a successful prosecution would have been very low in both cases. A prosecution would have needed to prove intent beyond reasonable doubt. |
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Oct 10, 2023 7:46:44 GMT
Post by steppenwolf on Oct 10, 2023 7:46:44 GMT
Yes I agree. Neither Laurence Fox's statements on GB News nor Jo Brand's "joke" on the BBC were worth the police wasting their valuable time on. But the fact is that Jo Brand's very unpleasant remark was ignored while Laurence Fox was arrested (by a number of police officers apparently) and had his house searched. That's the problem - a politicised police force.
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Oct 10, 2023 8:56:10 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2023 8:56:10 GMT
Yes I agree. Neither Laurence Fox's statements on GB News nor Jo Brand's "joke" on the BBC were worth the police wasting their valuable time on. But the fact is that Jo Brand's very unpleasant remark was ignored while Laurence Fox was arrested (by a number of police officers apparently) and had his house searched. That's the problem - a politicised police force. A key identifier for a police state. |
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Oct 10, 2023 9:05:14 GMT
Post by dappy on Oct 10, 2023 9:05:14 GMT
Fox's arrest was in relation to a separate matter relating to criminal damage and not related to his idiotic interview.
no doubt Fox would love to spin this as he being a free speech martyr. Actually it seems he is just a bit of a wally.
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Oct 10, 2023 9:26:53 GMT
Post by Fairsociety on Oct 10, 2023 9:26:53 GMT
To be fair I supported Fox over the QT fiasco, but he's discredited himself, he's well educated and knows full well he wasn't going to get away with his 'shag' comments, he does himself no favours, he's played in to the hands of the outraged lefties, however I see no reason why Dan Wootton was suspended.
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Oct 10, 2023 9:34:15 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2023 9:34:15 GMT
To be fair I supported Fox over the QT fiasco, but he's discredited himself, he's well educated and knows full well he wasn't going to get away with his 'shag' comments, he does himself no favours, he's played in to the hands of the outraged lefties, however I see no reason why Dan Wootton was suspended. I think a lot of the 'outrage' has come from the right and not just the left. Your bias shines through like a beacon of light for the troubled. |
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Oct 10, 2023 9:37:07 GMT
Post by dappy on Oct 10, 2023 9:37:07 GMT
Wootton is obviously a matter for GB News to determine. I have read reports that he is quite disruptive behind the scenes. Any competent presenter should have been alert to the reality that Fox's comments were unacceptable and shut down the issue by immediately challenging and apologising. Instead he found them funny and played along, indeed there are stories out there that fox had prewarned Wootton what he was going to say. Wootton poor judgement has damaged the credibility of the organisation he is paid well to represent. I can see why they are far from impressed. Their decision what comes next but in truth i would be quite surprised if he was seen on the station again. If Talk think he is any good, perhaps he will end up there.
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Oct 10, 2023 9:40:16 GMT
Post by Fairsociety on Oct 10, 2023 9:40:16 GMT
To be fair I supported Fox over the QT fiasco, but he's discredited himself, he's well educated and knows full well he wasn't going to get away with his 'shag' comments, he does himself no favours, he's played in to the hands of the outraged lefties, however I see no reason why Dan Wootton was suspended. I think a lot of the 'outrage' has come from the right and not just the left. Your bias shines through like a beacon of light for the troubled. Can't you read?
I said Fox was out of order, if you can't read what posters are saying don't respond, or I will report you.
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Oct 10, 2023 9:50:16 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2023 9:50:16 GMT
I think a lot of the 'outrage' has come from the right and not just the left. Your bias shines through like a beacon of light for the troubled. Can't you read?
I said Fox was out of order, if you can't read what posters are saying don't respond, or I will report you.
I understand that you said Fox was out of order, my comment was about you singling out the 'left' as the outraged party and not including the right and all right-minded people, can't you read? And your "I'm going to tell my mummy on you' attitude just proves my point, report away if that rocks your boat. |
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Oct 10, 2023 14:50:04 GMT
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Post by andrewbrown on Oct 10, 2023 14:50:04 GMT
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Oct 10, 2023 15:03:54 GMT
Post by dappy on Oct 10, 2023 15:03:54 GMT
He's pretty much right though, isn't he.
Tories really do need to decide what they want to be.
Hard though to see a future in the party for whichever side loses.
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