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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 10:07:44 GMT
Yesterday we saw what we thought we would never see at a Tory Conference - Images and footage of a Top Elected Tory been dragged out of the conference hall, because like most "One Nation" Tories, he opposes dividing society and campaigning on Non-Political / Nonsense issues.
The Conservative Party is now in exactly the same position that The Labour Party were in under Jeremy Corbyn, they are split, divided, fighting one another.
The split is "Traditional Tory" versus "The Populist Right Wing"
Suella Bravermans speech may have gone down well with SOME, but be warned, and mark my words, if the end result of this Tory Civil War finishes with someone like Suella Braverman in charge, it will further shatter and divide British society, pushing it perhaps to dangerous levels.
WE DONT NEED EITHER SUELLA BRAVERMAN'S - OR - JEREMY CORBYN'S We need the common ground, we need moderation and tolerance, and many Tories will recognise exactly what I am saying, and agree with me.
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Post by Vinny on Oct 4, 2023 10:17:51 GMT
There is nothing unhealthy about being a "broad church".
What is dogging them, is this, they are the party who took us through COVID, and fucked up spectacularly as they did so.
It is likely they will be punished for it.
Sunak is not doing a bad job as leader, but he has inherited a poisoned chalice.
The only thing that will do them any good is Starmer, who is fucking useless.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 4, 2023 10:19:48 GMT
Yesterday we saw what we thought we would never see at a Tory Conference - Images and footage of a Top Elected Tory been dragged out of the conference hall, because like most "One Nation" Tories, he opposes dividing society and campaigning on Non-Political / Nonsense issues. The Conservative Party is now in exactly the same position that The Labour Party were in under Jeremy Corbyn, they are split, divided, fighting one another. The split is "Traditional Tory" versus "The Populist Right Wing"
Suella Bravermans speech may have gone down well with SOME, but be warned, and mark my words, if the end result of this Tory Civil War finishes with someone like Suella Braverman in charge, it will further shatter and divide British society, pushing it perhaps to dangerous levels. WE DONT NEED EITHER SUELLA BRAVERMAN'S - OR - JEREMY CORBYN'S We need the common ground, we need moderation and tolerance, and many Tories will recognise exactly what I am saying, and agree with me. It went down with the 'MANY', you can thank your lefties for a lot of the problems today, Braverman was absolutely correct when she said that the Blair government handed over our powers to Europe, that is why we can't kick out these illegal migrants, and we can't deport criminals. It has caused civil unrest, we know it wont effect Blair he's safely tucked away in his Ivory Tower, the only party that has divided the UK is the Labour party, we can't undo their mess, they've strangled us with ECHR bureaucracy and red tape.
Now the likes of you want to blame the Tories, it's not going to work, to call you naive would be a total understatement, if you want to blame anyone for the divisions of today, blame Blair.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 4, 2023 10:24:14 GMT
Braverman has certainly rattled the lefties .
They can’t call her a white supremacist either .
How frustrating for them.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 4, 2023 10:32:02 GMT
Braverman has certainly rattled the lefties . They can’t call her a white supremacist either . How frustrating for them. Yes, how they would have loved her to be 'White privileged' they could have pulled out the good old reliable when all else fails 'race card'. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 4, 2023 10:38:08 GMT
Braverman has certainly rattled the lefties . They can’t call her a white supremacist either . How frustrating for them. Yes, how they would have loved her to be 'White privileged' they could have pulled out the good old reliable when all else fails 'race card'. It would be a knee jerk reaction . They wouldn’t even be aware of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 10:53:22 GMT
QUESTION: When did the UK become a signatory to The ECHR ?
ANSWER: When Sir Winston Churchill was Prime Minister in 1953
Abandoning or leaving the ECHR would move the UK further towards what Suella Braverman ( and her type ) would like, a more authoritarian government and society, where the government of the day and other institutions have no one to answer to.
Sometimes The People need protecting from their government, and this is just more far Right claptrap, which would not only split opinion in society, but would also further split The Tory Party.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 4, 2023 10:59:12 GMT
QUESTION: When did the UK become a signatory to The ECHR ? ANSWER: When Sir Winston Churchill was Prime Minister in 1953 Abandoning or leaving the ECHR would move the UK further towards what Suella Braverman ( and her type ) would like, a more authoritarian government and society, where the government of the day and other institutions have no one to answer to. Sometimes The People need protecting from their government, and this is just more far Right claptrap, which would not only split opinion in society, but would also further split The Tory Party. ECHR is not fit for purpose, it only works in favour of criminals. |
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Post by om15 on Oct 4, 2023 11:18:47 GMT
It was moderation and tolerance that brought us unlimited immigration, with anyone from anywhere being put up in 5 star hotels at our expense, it was moderation and tolerance that has given us a corrupted and broken NHS system with a perverted gender ideology, it was moderation and tolerance that has destroyed our education system from infants to undergraduates, it was moderation and tolerance that has fragmented the Conservative Party, moderation and tolerance has weakened our Armed Forces and completely rendered the Police impotent.
Neither Labour or the Tories can be trusted to act in the best interests of the people of this country, but certainly their versions of moderation and tolerance is the last thing we need.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 4, 2023 11:22:44 GMT
Braverman has certainly rattled the lefties . They can’t call her a white supremacist either . How frustrating for them. So has the fact our Nige had a warm welcome. I started a thread about which the usual braindead ignored |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 4, 2023 11:24:09 GMT
QUESTION: When did the UK become a signatory to The ECHR ? ANSWER: When Sir Winston Churchill was Prime Minister in 1953 Abandoning or leaving the ECHR would move the UK further towards what Suella Braverman ( and her type ) would like, a more authoritarian government and society, where the government of the day and other institutions have no one to answer to. Sometimes The People need protecting from their government, and this is just more far Right claptrap, which would not only split opinion in society, but would also further split The Tory Party. ECHR is not fit for purpose, it only works in favour of criminals. And that is exactly labour members are...Fucking criminals the whole lot of em. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 4, 2023 11:34:03 GMT
QUESTION: When did the UK become a signatory to The ECHR ? ANSWER: When Sir Winston Churchill was Prime Minister in 1953 Abandoning or leaving the ECHR would move the UK further towards what Suella Braverman ( and her type ) would like, a more authoritarian government and society, where the government of the day and other institutions have no one to answer to. Sometimes The People need protecting from their government, and this is just more far Right claptrap, which would not only split opinion in society, but would also further split The Tory Party. The convention is not the problem, the interpretation of it by the 1998 act and that act by our judges is a problem. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 4, 2023 11:44:13 GMT
The Tories seem to be remembering who they are: Conservatives, not a clone of New Labour.
I welcome this development and I suspect that the rowing back on Net Zero, curtailment of the pointless road schemes and 20mph limits, abolition of inheritance tax and increase in the ISA limits will prove popular with middle England.
Just bring Farage back to the fold and rip up the HRA and a landslide is guaranteed.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 4, 2023 12:15:19 GMT
It seems like it is the Tory coloured babes who are making the biggest splash at the Tory conference.......More power to their elbows.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 4, 2023 12:16:56 GMT
It seems like it is the Tory coloured babes who are making the biggest splash at the Tory conference.......More power to their elbows. Yeah I noticed that too. |
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