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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 2, 2023 21:37:30 GMT
Polling guru Sir John Curtice has just been interviewed on GB News and in his opinion the probability of a Labour landslide which was predicted 12 months ago, has gone. He said Labour will probably win the next election, with a minority government.
I cant help thinking, if only Sunak had wised up sooner and ditched all this woke net zero nonsense he may now be in a better place. And perhaps more importantly, with months to go before the election what are Starmers advisors going to make of the fact that net zero is definately not a vote winner.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 4:27:57 GMT
Polling guru Sir John Curtice has just been interviewed on GB News and in his opinion the probability of a Labour landslide which was predicted 12 months ago, has gone. He said Labour will probably win the next election, with a minority government. I cant help thinking, if only Sunak had wised up sooner and ditched all this woke net zero nonsense he may now be in a better place. And perhaps more importantly, with months to go before the election what are Starmers advisors going to make of the fact that net zero is definately not a vote winner. 🤣 |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 3, 2023 6:31:08 GMT
I think that it's quite clear to anyone with at least one functioning brain cell that Labour's chances will worsen the closer we get to the GE.
This GE will be fought over nutty road schemes and Net Zero bollocks because they directly affect normal people.
And Labour are going in exactly the wrong direction over both. ULEZ is going to cost them dear in London and the surrounding counties. The 20mph nonsense will cost them dear in Wales.
And most people no longer give a toss about the EU or the equality/diversity/identity politics which only affect a relative handful of people so they aren't going to be vote winners.
Labour have nothing to offer except more of what we don't want.
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Post by bancroft on Oct 4, 2023 19:46:41 GMT
The Tories will win though probably with a smaller margin.
Labour are so progressive they are out of touch with Middle England.
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Post by patman post on Oct 4, 2023 19:57:53 GMT
A jump in Tory support should be expected after their conference.
Unless Labour and Starmer make a complete hash of their conference, there’ll likely be a similar jump Labour support in the following onion polls…
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 1, 2024 1:18:03 GMT
Checked latest opion polls Labour and Sir Keir stammer have a majority lead between 54% and 47% .
Looks like labour landslide victory on its way
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Post by Vinny on Jan 1, 2024 15:25:31 GMT
Poll for you TTL:
Do you support punish the poorest road traffic laws?
Do you want energy poverty?
Do you want high taxes on the poorest voters?
There isn't a good option for the next election, but there are bad options and even worse options.
If Labour starts getting viewed as "even worse", they're back to square one and another wait for power.
What are their policies regarding international trade?
Regarding Russia, China and other dictatorships?
Their policies on energy?
Waste Lithium ion batteries from worn out electric cars?
Illegal immigration?
What are their policies for our armed forces?
Electoral reform?
The House of Lords?
Devolution, will they finally scrap it?
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 1, 2024 15:27:05 GMT
Checked latest opion polls Labour and Sir Keir stammer have a majority lead between 54% and 47% . Looks like labour landslide victory on its way If Labour win, and there are no guarantees, but if Labour win it most certainly will not be a landslide win. As I mentioned in the OP, polling guru Sir John Curtice who is widely respected by all sides of the political spectrum, says the Labour landslide that was predicted 12 months ago has gone. He said a Labour win with a minority government is the most likely outcome. Such a result could only be seen as a failure for Labour and Kier Starmer. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 1, 2024 15:37:43 GMT
Checked latest opion polls Labour and Sir Keir stammer have a majority lead between 54% and 47% . Looks like labour landslide victory on its way If Labour win, and there are no guarantees, but if Labour win it most certainly will not be a landslide win. As I mentioned in the OP, polling guru Sir John Curtice who is widely respected by all sides of the political spectrum, says the Labour landslide that was predicted 12 months ago has gone. He said a Labour win with a minority government is the most likely outcome. Such a result could only be seen as a failure for Labour and Kier Starmer. Have you seen the Article in the Telegraph I think it was Say The Conservatives will only win in a handful of Key seats come next GE They said he won't even win in his own seat of Richmond. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 1, 2024 15:42:39 GMT
Poll for you TTL: Do you support punish the poorest road traffic laws? Do you want energy poverty? Do you want high taxes on the poorest voters? There isn't a good option for the next election, but there are bad options and even worse options. If Labour starts getting viewed as "even worse", they're back to square one and another wait for power. What are their policies regarding international trade? Regarding Russia, China and other dictatorships? Their policies on energy? Waste Lithium ion batteries from worn out electric cars? Illegal immigration? What are their policies for our armed forces? Electoral reform? The House of Lords? Devolution, will they finally scrap it? So what will tax releve to the rich do for the poorest Voters. Really Vinny you seem a reasonable chap But can't understand why you support the rich so much . |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 1, 2024 15:50:15 GMT
Re read my posts, I'm in favour of the rich paying their fair share, just not being driven away into tax exile so they pay nothing.
45p rate of tax means the rich do pay their fair share.
Take people on less than £20k a year out of income tax altogether.
Here's what would result in greater tax revenues.
Cut VAT, make the standard rate 10%.
Sales will go up.
Net tax revenues will go up so that whilst an individual sale will produce less tax, higher volumes of sales will produce a higher overall net revenue.
Offer tax relief to the pub industry so that they can undercut the supermarkets and off licence industry.
Cut taxes on fuel.
Buy the retired Jordanian tank fleet.
We control the export licence, not them.
So buy those tanks back, refurbish them, give them to Ukraine on a lend lease basis valued at £100m to be paid back in installments once the war is over and Putin's thugs have left Ukraine.
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 1, 2024 16:04:31 GMT
Re read my posts, I'm in favour of the rich paying their fair share, just not being driven away into tax exile so they pay nothing. 45p rate of tax means the rich do pay their fair share. Take people on less than £20k a year out of income tax altogether. Here's what would result in greater tax revenues. Cut VAT, make the standard rate 10%. Sales will go up. Net tax revenues will go up so that whilst an individual sale will produce less tax, higher volumes of sales will produce a higher overall net revenue. Offer tax relief to the pub industry so that they can undercut the supermarkets and off licence industry. Cut taxes on fuel. Buy the retired Jordanian tank fleet. We control the export licence, not them. So buy those tanks back, refurbish them, give them to Ukraine on a lend lease basis valued at £100m to be paid back in installments once the war is over and Putin's thugs have left Ukraine. Has for Ukraine most of the western Governments have bent over backwards supporting Ukraine in the war. Supplying them with the Latest and best equipment. In the war . I remember you saying over a year ago that Russia had outdated equipment and poor constricted Soldiers who didn't want to fight. That was a year ago and Ukraine are still no nearer to winning the war. Dose that Ukrainian soldiers are crap. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 1, 2024 16:24:05 GMT
Wars take time to win.
But Ukraine are the victims.
If there's a scumbag on the loose breaking into people's homes raping and murdering, do you tell women to negotiate with him if they meet him, or to fight the bastard and hurt him with whatever they have to hand?
I would give them as much of a fighting chance of survival as possible.
And I take the same approach to Ukraine.
Putin is a mass murderer. I can give you all the information you need to know.
It was extensively documented by Novoya Gazeta before the murder of Anna Politkovskaya by the FSB.
Appeasement is not the answer.
Putin must be defeated.
Once utterly defeated, Russia will drive him from power and execute him.
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Post by thomas on Jan 2, 2024 15:32:41 GMT
Checked latest opion polls Labour and Sir Keir stammer have a majority lead between 54% and 47% . Looks like labour landslide victory on its way If Labour win, and there are no guarantees, but if Labour win it most certainly will not be a landslide win. As I mentioned in the OP, polling guru Sir John Curtice who is widely respected by all sides of the political spectrum, says the Labour landslide that was predicted 12 months ago has gone. He said a Labour win with a minority government is the most likely outcome. Such a result could only be seen as a failure for Labour and Kier Starmer. exactly. At the minute , we have polls showing 22% are guaranteed to vote labour. We could have the farcical situation of a 49% turnout , the lowest since universal suffrage , and a deeply unpopular Labour Party winning a landslide off barely a fifth of the electorate. John curtice is widely respected , and has said many a time labours lead could be incredibly soft. As we come closer to the big day , I suspect those who are pissed off with both tory and snp might , just might turn out as the thought of a blairite dictatorship on a tiny minority of the electorate become unbearable. im thinking a hung parliament myself , but who knows? |
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Post by bancroft on Jan 3, 2024 16:22:43 GMT
Ukraine is and was one of the most corrupt countries, one of the reasons why the EU won't let them straight into the EU post conflict.
This is all about Biden and the Dems trying to break up Imperial Russia while they let portions of their own nation slide into an Hispanic nation due to their globalist ideology.
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